Statistics has nothing to do with it.
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Statistics has nothing to do with it.
Bruddah IZ
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Bruddah IZ
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Please continue. Wez just posted a 20 year old study chocked full of stats.
I was discussing the cultural differences.
Wez
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At least I support my claims with evidence.
espoola
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Which states are non-hunter states?
Are there some states where hunting is banned?, or are you talking about states where hunting is over regulated?
I dont understand.
Hunting is a regional thing within all states.
The more rural areas usually have more of a hunting tradition, whereas the more urban areas dont.
Just a Parent
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Right . . .
"I regret to inform you that your son was shot dead this morning. But don't feel bad. The shooting was not ACCIDENTAL"
In the meantime, talking of "American badgers," . . .
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Bruddah IZ
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And I'm sure the culture generated those stats. Please go on.
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News Story III: “If South Africa Lifts The Ban On Trading Rhino Horns, Will Rhinos Benefit?” from NPR featuring John Hume, a private game rancher in South Africa who owns 1,300 rhinos (more than anybody in the world, some are pictured above from a National Geographic profile on his rhino ranch) and 10,000 pounds of rhino horns.
South Africa’s highest court is preparing to decide whether to uphold the country’s domestic ban on trading rhino horn. Supporters of the ban say striking it down would encourage international smuggling of rhino horn, which fuels poaching. But private rhino owners like Hume contend that meeting demand for rhino horn is the best way to curb poaching and save the species.
On the black market, the price of rhino horn can fetch more than gold. In an effort to stem poaching, international trade was banned in 1977 under CITES, the multilateral treaty that regulates wildlife trade in order to protect endangered species. In South Africa, domestic trade in rhino has been illegal since 2009. But poaching has only increased. Hume says the only way to save the species it to sell the horn.
In order to protect his animals, Hume spends more than $200,000 a month in security. “I will run out of money. I will run out of protection of my rhinos,” he says. “I will not indefinitely be able to afford the helicopters, the soldiers, the radars.”
Rhino horn grows back if not fully removed from the animal, and Hume regularly trims it off his animals. He has stockpiled 5 tons of the stuff.
Economic Lesson: When private property rights for a valuable asset like rhinos or elephants are not allowed (like in most African countries), and/or when commercial sale of valuable assets like rhino horns or elephant ivory are illegal (like in all of Africa), the results are predictable: The herds of rhinos and elephants will decrease over time due to illegal poaching (1,175 rhinos were poached last year in South Africa – home to 80% of the world’s rhinos – up from only 13 rhinos in 2007) and illegal sales of horns and ivory. In other words, it’s the predicable economic outcome known as the “tragedy of the commons.” When a valuable asset like elephants or rhino are owned in common by everybody, there is no financial incentive to provide good care and stewardship of those animals. The tragedy is the predictable outcome that those assets like rhinos and elephants will decline in numbers. In contrast, when private ownership and commercial use are allowed for rhinos and elephants, the economic incentives of private property and financial rewards will produce a predictable outcome: greater numbers of elephants and rhinos (for example, John Hume’s rhino herd has been increasing by nearly 200 per year).
South Africa’s highest court is preparing to decide whether to uphold the country’s domestic ban on trading rhino horn. Supporters of the ban say striking it down would encourage international smuggling of rhino horn, which fuels poaching. But private rhino owners like Hume contend that meeting demand for rhino horn is the best way to curb poaching and save the species.
On the black market, the price of rhino horn can fetch more than gold. In an effort to stem poaching, international trade was banned in 1977 under CITES, the multilateral treaty that regulates wildlife trade in order to protect endangered species. In South Africa, domestic trade in rhino has been illegal since 2009. But poaching has only increased. Hume says the only way to save the species it to sell the horn.
In order to protect his animals, Hume spends more than $200,000 a month in security. “I will run out of money. I will run out of protection of my rhinos,” he says. “I will not indefinitely be able to afford the helicopters, the soldiers, the radars.”
Rhino horn grows back if not fully removed from the animal, and Hume regularly trims it off his animals. He has stockpiled 5 tons of the stuff.
Economic Lesson: When private property rights for a valuable asset like rhinos or elephants are not allowed (like in most African countries), and/or when commercial sale of valuable assets like rhino horns or elephant ivory are illegal (like in all of Africa), the results are predictable: The herds of rhinos and elephants will decrease over time due to illegal poaching (1,175 rhinos were poached last year in South Africa – home to 80% of the world’s rhinos – up from only 13 rhinos in 2007) and illegal sales of horns and ivory. In other words, it’s the predicable economic outcome known as the “tragedy of the commons.” When a valuable asset like elephants or rhino are owned in common by everybody, there is no financial incentive to provide good care and stewardship of those animals. The tragedy is the predictable outcome that those assets like rhinos and elephants will decline in numbers. In contrast, when private ownership and commercial use are allowed for rhinos and elephants, the economic incentives of private property and financial rewards will produce a predictable outcome: greater numbers of elephants and rhinos (for example, John Hume’s rhino herd has been increasing by nearly 200 per year).
Bruddah IZ
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Happy one month anniversary to me on the new Forum
espoola
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Hana Ho!
Bruddah IZ
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Maybe the Worst Sentence (and Article) I Have Ever Read About Uber?
By driving Uber out of the market, cities can help to keep their taxi industry competitive.
By driving Uber out of the market, cities can help to keep their taxi industry competitive.
Bruddah IZ
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Bruddah IZ
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A man who chooses between drinking a glass of milk and a glass of a solution of potassium cyanide does not choose between two beverages; he chooses between life and death. A society that chooses between capitalism and socialism does not choose between two social systems; it chooses between social cooperation and the disintegration of society. Socialism is not an alternative to capitalism; it is an alternative to any system under which men can live as human beings.-- Mises
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The complete disintegration of Venezuela’s society and economy due to socialism. When will we hear from Bernie, Hillary or Barack about the horrific failures of socialism just 1,400 miles from Miami? Or from left-leaning economist Mark Weisbrot, who in November 2013 scolded the “Venezuela haters” by claiming that “this economy is not the Greece of Latin America,” and warning the haters (aka sensible adults) that “predicting a Venezuelan apocalypse won’t make it happen.”
Mark Weisbrot
Mark Weisbrot
Bruddah IZ
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Although the Venezuela case illustrates the extreme failures from full-throttled socialism, we get the same adverse outcomes, just to a lesser degree, from less extreme forms of socialism. For example, Venezuela tried to repeal the laws of supply and demand on a grand scale in every market and ended up with disastrous outcomes and a complete economic collapse. To a lesser degree, progressives in the US try to repeal the laws of supply and demand in just one market – the market for low-skilled workers. The negative effects of that attempt to circumvent market forces might be less severe and less noticeable than the economic chaos in Venezuela, but it’s nonetheless still a very “Venezuelan outcome” — just on a more limited scale.--Mark Perry