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It's a big deal if you want to be correct.
...."but would probably agree with her insofar as at the end of the day Israel is a country the US created".

Correct would be that without the largess of American taxpayers or Harry Truman there would be no modern state of Israel. You can talk about the League of Nations (which lasted something like 10 years?) or pretend the in 1947 bombed out and bankrupt Briton was in a position to create nations... but then you'd be fooling yourself.

And again, if Israel wants to be treated as a fellow western state, it must tow the line of following western values. Like England does. Like Japan does. Like South Korea does. Like Germany does. Like the US does. Like every nation in the west does. Not sure how this has gotten to be a so controversial an idea given that we supposedly hold ourselves to that system of values?
 
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Correct would be that without the largess of American taxpayers or Harry Truman there would be no modern state of Israel. You can talk about the League of Nations (which lasted something like 10 years?) or pretend the in 1947 bombed out and bankrupt Briton was in a position to create nations... but then you'd be fooling yourself.

And again, if Israel wants to be treated as a fellow western state, it must tow the line of following western values. Like England does. Like Japan does. Like South Korea does. Like Germany does. Like the US does. Like every nation in the west does. Not sure how this has gotten to be a so controversial an idea given that we supposedly hold ourselves to that system of values?
Facts are facts...read the Balfour Declaration from 1917....
During World War I, the Allies drove the Turks out of Ottoman Syria. In 1917, the British government announced its support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in the 67-word statement know as the Balfour Declaration:

His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

After the war the British controlled the area of Palestine and was given a mandate by the League of Nations to administer the territory. Under British rule, the land was sometimes referred to as Mandatory Palestine.
 
Facts are facts...read the Balfour Declaration from 1917....
During World War I, the Allies drove the Turks out of Ottoman Syria. In 1917, the British government announced its support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in the 67-word statement know as the Balfour Declaration:

His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

After the war the British controlled the area of Palestine and was given a mandate by the League of Nations to administer the territory. Under British rule, the land was sometimes referred to as Mandatory Palestine.


The Balfour Declaration? 1917? You know Israel itself says it was founded in 1948...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7381315.stm
1948: The State of Israel is founded
The State of Israel was proclaimed on 14 May 1948, the culmination of nearly 2,000 years of hopes by Jewish people that they would one day return to the land from which the Romans expelled them. The Holocaust of European Jewry in the Second World War strengthened their determination.

The Balfour Declaration by the British government in 1917, enshrined in a League of Nations mandate in 1920, had said that a "national home for the Jewish people" would be founded in Palestine, while preserving the "civil and religious" rights of non-Jewish communities there. The British could not reconcile the conflicting principles.
 
My grandmother always said if you're gonna wish, wish big....atta boy you keep wishing.

Idk kinda think we're past the wishing stage. If Bubs was able to get Democrat leaning posters in here to squeal at that same pitch Husker gets you to hit, I can only imagine how pleased he'd be with himself.
 
Breaking: California abandons plans for high-speed rail between LA and SF



California Gov. Gavin Newsom says he’s ending the state’s effort to build a high-speed rail line between San Francisco and Los Angeles.

Newsom said Tuesday in his State of the State address it “would cost too much and take too long” to build the line long championed by his predecessor, Jerry Brown. Latest estimates pin the cost at $77 billion and completion in 2033.

Newsom says he wants to continue construction of the high-speed link from Merced to Bakersfield in California’s Central Valley. He says building the line could bring economic transformation to the agricultural region.
 
First female Viper demo team pilot removed from position after 2 weeks

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Capt. Zoe Kotnik was removed from her position after two weeks, said Col. Derek O’Malley, the 20th Fighter Wing commander. (Air Force)

The first female pilot to head the Air Combat Command F-16 Viper demonstration team was relieved of command Monday due to a “loss of confidence” in her ability to lead, the Air Force said.



Capt. Zoe Kotnik was removed from her position after two weeks, Col. Derek O’Malley, the 20th Fighter Wing commander, said in a statement.

“I removed Capt. Kotnik from her position as the commander of the Viper Demo team [Monday], because I lost confidence in her ability to lead the team.” O’Malley said. “I know that loss of confidence is a common response from the Air Force, whenever someone is removed from a command position, and I think it’s important to understand why we take this approach.”


O’Malley alluded to Kotnik making mistakes but did not further elaborate on exactly what led to her being relieved of her duties. He said he hoped Kotnik will continue to serve the Air Force despite the incident.


“As good people, like Capt. Kotnik make mistakes, I want them to have the opportunity to learn from them without being under public scrutiny, and to continue to be a part of this great service. They’ll be better for the experience, and in turn, we’ll be better as an Air Force,” he said. “In these types of situations, I never forget that we’re dealing with real human beings, that I care deeply about, and that we are charged to take care of. This will be a difficult time for Capt. Kotnik, but she’s surrounded by wingmen that will help her every step of the way."


Kotnik graduated from the Air Force Academy in 2011 and earned her wings in 2013, the Air Force Times reported. She was named the Viper team leader on Jan. 29.

Last season’s Viper demo pilot, Maj. John “Rain” Waters, will resume command of the team
 
Idk kinda think we're past the wishing stage. If Bubs was able to get Democrat leaning posters in here to squeal at that same pitch Husker gets you to hit, I can only imagine how pleased he'd be with himself.
Sounds like you're dreaming td...way to use that imagination.
Nice of you to come to the support of the Duck.
What a nice person you are.:cool:
Hard to believe they walk among us.
 
Kamala Harris says she listened to Snoop Dogg, Tupac while smoking weed in college years before they made music....

Now that's some good shit!

 
The original partition of Palestine, as approved by the UN General Assembly in 1948 --

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Palestine never existed as a Nation....
Palestinians never existed as group of people....


Having a group of tribes who got together and called themselves
Palestine doesn't make it Ok to REWRITE HISTORY !
 
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