Ponderable
- Thread starter Bruddah IZ
- Start date
Do you think think this is going to hurt his career? I just sort of doubt that he'll lose many fans with this, who he didn't lose with the #metoo masturbation stuff. Maybe it's because I grew up out in the country and guns were always around so I'm jaded... but it does somewhat feel like these breathless write ups about what college that kid David Hogg (think that's the name of the kid from the Parkland shooting) got into are getting a bit overly political and somewhat silly. At some point, whether it was Louis CK or someone else... someone was going to have to let some of the hot air out of that balloon.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Not very tenacious today.
BTW, who game you that screen name?
He said they pushed the fat kid in front of them. I don't disagree with you about the kids getting so much play, but this guy doesn't have a long leash. I think he's toast.
I'd agree with you more if the audience listening to him on that audio recording wasn't laughing their asses off through all the jokes. From Lenny Bruce to Richard Pryor, past experience says the public tends to give comedians lots of leeway.
But then again, in the #metoo era a lot has changed (much of it for the better), so I will admit you could very well be right.
I agree with both of your paragraphs.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Congratulations.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Get a room.
Bruddah IZ
DA
I wonder how many like her were aborted.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Not near enough. She needs a late late term abortion.
My real take is that the #metoo / diversity push in the entertainment / media fields is getting closed to having crested. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing is a question I'll leave up to the readers to decide, but I base that opinion on the follow three thoughts:
1. Outrage is a tough emotion to use to sell newspapers and movie tickets. For example, a year from now I doubt Keira Knightley would still be able to get top billing in the New York Times with the headlines about how much easier life would be if she had a penis. Nor will you find CNN leading with stories about a black wrestler being made to cut his dreads, over stories about Trump pulling troops out of Syria. My take on it is outrage demands a lot from the viewers, and for better or worse, people will get exhausted.
If anything we'll start seeing more stories about school teachers seducing students, or unmentioned topics more along the lines of a (hypothetical) Rosy O'Donnell type character taking advantage of young actresses, or a (hypothetical) Barbra Bush type forcing herself on a pool boy, or exposes on how some of these viral videos are basically setups. And of course once #metoo / diversity starts cutting both ways a lot of folks are going to want to drop it.
2. The accused are no longer going to run off in shame ala' Al Franken or Garrison Keillor. Just take Louis CK for an example. I think even he'd admit he's a pervert... but he's also very smart, very talented, quite capable of pointing out the hypocrisy in the people coming after him and I would also imagine very pissed off. At the end of the day entertainment and selling newspapers is a business. And if folks will pay to watch and hear what Louis CK types have to say- it's going to become increasingly hard to shout these people down if they stop slinking off.
3. Lastly I would make the point that after a year of seeing diversity in action... we all have agree black and female entertainers and news professionalists have proven they can do the job as well as white men. However objectively I would also admit that so far I don't see an wildly new perspectives to the craft film making coming from this push for diversity, that are in anyway comparable to say what black Jazz and the Blues artists did for music. Or that is say uniquely feminine in the way burlesque dancing is. If anything... it sure feels like in this past years push for diversity we saw what was a uniquely Latin genera of Fantastic Realism (Birdman, The Shape of Water) get left behind. As I said before, rightly or wrongly, if diversity doesn't bring a unique perspective that we can all point to and say it wouldn't have been possible otherwise... my guess is people are going to quickly get bored with it.
Sheriff Joe
DA
We have had enough with the experiment.
I've got an idea, lets hire the best man for the job.
Sports Media Outraged As Nearly All of NFL’s Black Head Coaches Fired
I've got an idea, lets hire the best man for the job.
Sports Media Outraged As Nearly All of NFL’s Black Head Coaches Fired
Sheriff Joe
DA
What a douche.
LeBron James declares himself 'the greatest player of all time' because of championship with Cavaliers
James says his 2016 NBA title with the Cavs made him the best ever
Basketball's GOAT debate may still rage on in think pieces, debate shows and bar conversations on a near daily basis, but it's settled in LeBron James' head ... and it has been for a few years now.
LeBron is the greatest of all time, according to LeBron.
James apparently came to that conclusion after the 2016 NBA Finals, which were won by his Cleveland Cavaliers. After falling into a three-games-to-one series hole against the mighty Golden State Warriors, LeBron led the Cavs to three straight wins (two of them coming on the road) and recorded a triple-double in the decisive Game 7.
He was the unanimous Finals MVP and, more importantly, he delivered on his promise of bringing a championship to his hometown Cavaliers -- their first in franchise history.
At that point, LeBron was ready to call himself the best ever.
"That one right there made me the greatest player of all time ... that's what I felt," LeBron told business partners Maverick Carter, Randy Mims and Rich Paul during an episode of ESPN's "More Than An Athlete" series that aired Sunday night. "I was super, super ecstatic to win one for Cleveland because of the 52-year drought. ... The first wave of emotion was when everyone saw me crying, like, that was all for 52 years of everything in sports that's gone on in Cleveland. And then after I stopped, I was like -- that one right there made you the greatest player of all time.
LeBron James declares himself 'the greatest player of all time' because of championship with Cavaliers
James says his 2016 NBA title with the Cavs made him the best ever
- by Pete Blackburn
- @PeteBlackburn
- 17h ago • 2 min read
Basketball's GOAT debate may still rage on in think pieces, debate shows and bar conversations on a near daily basis, but it's settled in LeBron James' head ... and it has been for a few years now.
LeBron is the greatest of all time, according to LeBron.
James apparently came to that conclusion after the 2016 NBA Finals, which were won by his Cleveland Cavaliers. After falling into a three-games-to-one series hole against the mighty Golden State Warriors, LeBron led the Cavs to three straight wins (two of them coming on the road) and recorded a triple-double in the decisive Game 7.
He was the unanimous Finals MVP and, more importantly, he delivered on his promise of bringing a championship to his hometown Cavaliers -- their first in franchise history.
At that point, LeBron was ready to call himself the best ever.
"That one right there made me the greatest player of all time ... that's what I felt," LeBron told business partners Maverick Carter, Randy Mims and Rich Paul during an episode of ESPN's "More Than An Athlete" series that aired Sunday night. "I was super, super ecstatic to win one for Cleveland because of the 52-year drought. ... The first wave of emotion was when everyone saw me crying, like, that was all for 52 years of everything in sports that's gone on in Cleveland. And then after I stopped, I was like -- that one right there made you the greatest player of all time.
Sheriff Joe
DA
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Abortion
Opinion
'Pro-Life’ Abortion Activist Tells Kids: Abortion Is ‘God’s Plan’
Katie Yoder
|
Posted: Dec 31, 2018 5:00 PM
Thanks to media efforts, children are learning all about abortion just in time for the new year – from a staunch abortion supporter only too happy to regurgitate talking points to youngsters.
On Dec. 28, Kids Meet, a HiHo show run by Cut.com, released its latest episode on Facebook: “Kids Meet Someone Who's Had an Abortion.” In this case, that someone was Amelia Bonow – the cofounder of #ShoutYourAbortion, a network that encourages women share their positive abortion stories. While Bonow accused the pro-life movement of “propaganda,” she spread some of her own to kids – from calling abortion “God’s plan” to identifying as “pro-life.”
The Kids Meet show claims to foster “empathy through play” by introducing “curious kids” to “people with particular points of view.” But Bonow didn’t just give a point of view; she twisted religion and the pro-life movement to kids.
“I had an abortion,” Bonow began telling various kids, because “I got pregnant and I really didn’t want to have a baby.” She argued that her abortion wasn’t “reckless” because “mistakes happen.” And this was a mistake easily fixed.
“You go to the doctor, and they put this little straw inside of your cervix and then inside of your uterus and then they just suck the pregnancy out,” Bonow described. “And it was like a crappy dentist appointment or something. It was just like, ‘ahhhh, this is like a body thing that’s kind of uncomfortable.’”
And just like that, a life ended. Although, according to Bonow, life “begins when a person has a baby.” It doesn’t begin at conception, where an unborn baby’s unique DNA is set, or even at six weeks, when a baby’s heartbeat is detectable.
In her discussion normalizing abortion, Bonow, like many in the media, didn’t acknowledge stories from those who survived their mothers’ attempt to abort them, like Gianna Jessen and Melissa Ohden, or the stories of regret that other women share. Organizations like the Silent No More Awareness Campaign lists thousands of their testimonies.
One, from Jenna in Indiana, urged: “Please understand the horror of getting an abortion. It’s not a procedure to fix an illness; it’s to end a life. It’s not all going to go away, you will think about it for the rest of your life. It will haunt you.”
Another mother, from Alabama, wrote, “If I could do it over, I would have kept her … I will never forget what a horrible decision I made at the time, and I will never forget that I killed my little girl, my only girl."
Bonow not only bypassed stories like these but also overlooked alternatives to abortion.
“Do we want people to just have all those babies? So what do we do with them?” she asked one boy who suggested certain abortion limits. When the young kid suggested adoption, she again disagreed. “I feel like if I am forced to create life, I have lost the right to my own life.”
She continued, “I should be the one to decide if my body creates a life.” Plus, if a woman chooses the adoption route, “you still like have a kid, out there, somewhere.”
She’s right: no one should be forced to create a life. The difference is that, in the pro-life movement, that choice happens before getting pregnant – not after.
The pro-life movement is centered on abortion and religion, Bonow implied. (She forgot groups like Secular Pro-Life.) She wanted to know the children’s faith while, at the same time, she didn’t reveal her own. Although, on Twitter, she once typed, “I wish I believed in God,” suggesting that she’s atheist.
“Are you religious at all? What do you think that God thinks about abortion?” she asked one kid, before inquiring of a Catholic girl, “Have you ever heard of what like the Catholic Church thinks about abortion?” For her part, Bonow – who may not even believe in God – told them abortion is “all part of God’s plan.”
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She showed no qualms about using God to argue for abortion in a video with kids whose faith teaches them that abortion ends a human person’s life. She also had no problem trying to hijack the pro-life movement. That’s because pro-lifers are really “anti-choice,” and pro-choicers, like herself, are really “pro-life.”
“To me, the phrase ‘pro-life’ is propaganda because often the people that say that don’t want to take care of people who have babies they can’t afford and then are totally poor,” she said. “I’m just like ‘that’s not – you guys aren’t pro-life, I’m pro-life.’”
She failed to mention that it’s the pro-life movement that sponsors pregnancy centers, which provide pregnant women and new moms with free housing, medical supplies, clothing, and educational classes, among other support. Instead, Bonow blamed her abortion woes on “old white dudes in the government.” Nevermind that the pro-life movement is largely led by women, from Susan B. Anthony List’s President Marjorie Dannenfelser to March for Life’s President Jeanne Mancini.
The problem with Bonow wasn’t that she was teaching empathy like the video claimed, but that she was teaching antipathy of the pro-life movement – to kids.
But Bonow was dedicated, if nothing else. At one point, she asked a teenager if she wanted to see a tattoo. She pulled down her lower lip to reveal one inside her mouth reading, “abortion
Abortion
Opinion
'Pro-Life’ Abortion Activist Tells Kids: Abortion Is ‘God’s Plan’
Katie Yoder
|
Posted: Dec 31, 2018 5:00 PM
Thanks to media efforts, children are learning all about abortion just in time for the new year – from a staunch abortion supporter only too happy to regurgitate talking points to youngsters.
On Dec. 28, Kids Meet, a HiHo show run by Cut.com, released its latest episode on Facebook: “Kids Meet Someone Who's Had an Abortion.” In this case, that someone was Amelia Bonow – the cofounder of #ShoutYourAbortion, a network that encourages women share their positive abortion stories. While Bonow accused the pro-life movement of “propaganda,” she spread some of her own to kids – from calling abortion “God’s plan” to identifying as “pro-life.”
The Kids Meet show claims to foster “empathy through play” by introducing “curious kids” to “people with particular points of view.” But Bonow didn’t just give a point of view; she twisted religion and the pro-life movement to kids.
“I had an abortion,” Bonow began telling various kids, because “I got pregnant and I really didn’t want to have a baby.” She argued that her abortion wasn’t “reckless” because “mistakes happen.” And this was a mistake easily fixed.
“You go to the doctor, and they put this little straw inside of your cervix and then inside of your uterus and then they just suck the pregnancy out,” Bonow described. “And it was like a crappy dentist appointment or something. It was just like, ‘ahhhh, this is like a body thing that’s kind of uncomfortable.’”
And just like that, a life ended. Although, according to Bonow, life “begins when a person has a baby.” It doesn’t begin at conception, where an unborn baby’s unique DNA is set, or even at six weeks, when a baby’s heartbeat is detectable.
In her discussion normalizing abortion, Bonow, like many in the media, didn’t acknowledge stories from those who survived their mothers’ attempt to abort them, like Gianna Jessen and Melissa Ohden, or the stories of regret that other women share. Organizations like the Silent No More Awareness Campaign lists thousands of their testimonies.
One, from Jenna in Indiana, urged: “Please understand the horror of getting an abortion. It’s not a procedure to fix an illness; it’s to end a life. It’s not all going to go away, you will think about it for the rest of your life. It will haunt you.”
Another mother, from Alabama, wrote, “If I could do it over, I would have kept her … I will never forget what a horrible decision I made at the time, and I will never forget that I killed my little girl, my only girl."
Bonow not only bypassed stories like these but also overlooked alternatives to abortion.
“Do we want people to just have all those babies? So what do we do with them?” she asked one boy who suggested certain abortion limits. When the young kid suggested adoption, she again disagreed. “I feel like if I am forced to create life, I have lost the right to my own life.”
She continued, “I should be the one to decide if my body creates a life.” Plus, if a woman chooses the adoption route, “you still like have a kid, out there, somewhere.”
She’s right: no one should be forced to create a life. The difference is that, in the pro-life movement, that choice happens before getting pregnant – not after.
The pro-life movement is centered on abortion and religion, Bonow implied. (She forgot groups like Secular Pro-Life.) She wanted to know the children’s faith while, at the same time, she didn’t reveal her own. Although, on Twitter, she once typed, “I wish I believed in God,” suggesting that she’s atheist.
“Are you religious at all? What do you think that God thinks about abortion?” she asked one kid, before inquiring of a Catholic girl, “Have you ever heard of what like the Catholic Church thinks about abortion?” For her part, Bonow – who may not even believe in God – told them abortion is “all part of God’s plan.”
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She showed no qualms about using God to argue for abortion in a video with kids whose faith teaches them that abortion ends a human person’s life. She also had no problem trying to hijack the pro-life movement. That’s because pro-lifers are really “anti-choice,” and pro-choicers, like herself, are really “pro-life.”
“To me, the phrase ‘pro-life’ is propaganda because often the people that say that don’t want to take care of people who have babies they can’t afford and then are totally poor,” she said. “I’m just like ‘that’s not – you guys aren’t pro-life, I’m pro-life.’”
She failed to mention that it’s the pro-life movement that sponsors pregnancy centers, which provide pregnant women and new moms with free housing, medical supplies, clothing, and educational classes, among other support. Instead, Bonow blamed her abortion woes on “old white dudes in the government.” Nevermind that the pro-life movement is largely led by women, from Susan B. Anthony List’s President Marjorie Dannenfelser to March for Life’s President Jeanne Mancini.
The problem with Bonow wasn’t that she was teaching empathy like the video claimed, but that she was teaching antipathy of the pro-life movement – to kids.
But Bonow was dedicated, if nothing else. At one point, she asked a teenager if she wanted to see a tattoo. She pulled down her lower lip to reveal one inside her mouth reading, “abortion
Multi Sport
DA
Disgusting .What the hell is wrong with you people?
Abortion
Opinion
'Pro-Life’ Abortion Activist Tells Kids: Abortion Is ‘God’s Plan’
Katie Yoder
|
Posted: Dec 31, 2018 5:00 PM
Thanks to media efforts, children are learning all about abortion just in time for the new year – from a staunch abortion supporter only too happy to regurgitate talking points to youngsters.
On Dec. 28, Kids Meet, a HiHo show run by Cut.com, released its latest episode on Facebook: “Kids Meet Someone Who's Had an Abortion.” In this case, that someone was Amelia Bonow – the cofounder of #ShoutYourAbortion, a network that encourages women share their positive abortion stories. While Bonow accused the pro-life movement of “propaganda,” she spread some of her own to kids – from calling abortion “God’s plan” to identifying as “pro-life.”
The Kids Meet show claims to foster “empathy through play” by introducing “curious kids” to “people with particular points of view.” But Bonow didn’t just give a point of view; she twisted religion and the pro-life movement to kids.
“I had an abortion,” Bonow began telling various kids, because “I got pregnant and I really didn’t want to have a baby.” She argued that her abortion wasn’t “reckless” because “mistakes happen.” And this was a mistake easily fixed.
“You go to the doctor, and they put this little straw inside of your cervix and then inside of your uterus and then they just suck the pregnancy out,” Bonow described. “And it was like a crappy dentist appointment or something. It was just like, ‘ahhhh, this is like a body thing that’s kind of uncomfortable.’”
And just like that, a life ended. Although, according to Bonow, life “begins when a person has a baby.” It doesn’t begin at conception, where an unborn baby’s unique DNA is set, or even at six weeks, when a baby’s heartbeat is detectable.
In her discussion normalizing abortion, Bonow, like many in the media, didn’t acknowledge stories from those who survived their mothers’ attempt to abort them, like Gianna Jessen and Melissa Ohden, or the stories of regret that other women share. Organizations like the Silent No More Awareness Campaign lists thousands of their testimonies.
One, from Jenna in Indiana, urged: “Please understand the horror of getting an abortion. It’s not a procedure to fix an illness; it’s to end a life. It’s not all going to go away, you will think about it for the rest of your life. It will haunt you.”
Another mother, from Alabama, wrote, “If I could do it over, I would have kept her … I will never forget what a horrible decision I made at the time, and I will never forget that I killed my little girl, my only girl."
Bonow not only bypassed stories like these but also overlooked alternatives to abortion.
“Do we want people to just have all those babies? So what do we do with them?” she asked one boy who suggested certain abortion limits. When the young kid suggested adoption, she again disagreed. “I feel like if I am forced to create life, I have lost the right to my own life.”
She continued, “I should be the one to decide if my body creates a life.” Plus, if a woman chooses the adoption route, “you still like have a kid, out there, somewhere.”
She’s right: no one should be forced to create a life. The difference is that, in the pro-life movement, that choice happens before getting pregnant – not after.
The pro-life movement is centered on abortion and religion, Bonow implied. (She forgot groups like Secular Pro-Life.) She wanted to know the children’s faith while, at the same time, she didn’t reveal her own. Although, on Twitter, she once typed, “I wish I believed in God,” suggesting that she’s atheist.
“Are you religious at all? What do you think that God thinks about abortion?” she asked one kid, before inquiring of a Catholic girl, “Have you ever heard of what like the Catholic Church thinks about abortion?” For her part, Bonow – who may not even believe in God – told them abortion is “all part of God’s plan.”
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She showed no qualms about using God to argue for abortion in a video with kids whose faith teaches them that abortion ends a human person’s life. She also had no problem trying to hijack the pro-life movement. That’s because pro-lifers are really “anti-choice,” and pro-choicers, like herself, are really “pro-life.”
“To me, the phrase ‘pro-life’ is propaganda because often the people that say that don’t want to take care of people who have babies they can’t afford and then are totally poor,” she said. “I’m just like ‘that’s not – you guys aren’t pro-life, I’m pro-life.’”
She failed to mention that it’s the pro-life movement that sponsors pregnancy centers, which provide pregnant women and new moms with free housing, medical supplies, clothing, and educational classes, among other support. Instead, Bonow blamed her abortion woes on “old white dudes in the government.” Nevermind that the pro-life movement is largely led by women, from Susan B. Anthony List’s President Marjorie Dannenfelser to March for Life’s President Jeanne Mancini.
The problem with Bonow wasn’t that she was teaching empathy like the video claimed, but that she was teaching antipathy of the pro-life movement – to kids.
But Bonow was dedicated, if nothing else. At one point, she asked a teenager if she wanted to see a tattoo. She pulled down her lower lip to reveal one inside her mouth reading, “abortion
Hüsker Dü
DA
t and Co. are fighting hard against womens's and human rights, so, YTD.