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tenacious said:
Yeah they were suppose to be... and yet neither the DNC or RNC was. Didn't cause you to change your vote, stop with the fake outrage that it's not going to cause me to change my vote.
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Just goes to show that the system is rigged for Hillary....
Bernie Sanders won Michigan, beat Hillary fair and square.
Yet Hillary received more delegates from Michigan than Bernie. Remember Bernie won the primary in Michigan.

You keep trying to justify what Hillary and the Democrats are doing by pointing at the Republicans.
The Republicans had people out in the open trying to stop Trump. They were up front about what they wanted.
The Democrats conspired, colluded if you will, to favor Hillary. They lied about the conspiracy.
What a surprise....Fake outrage? Pffff...
30 plus years of Clinton lies & collusions and folks keep trying to justify it.... outrageous indeed.
 
espola said:
.... and the horse you rode in on. (as my former manager, and godfather to my oldest, used to say)
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If you're going to say that the U.S. Benefits the most from NATO, don't ride in on an Ass to make that clueless announcement without anything to back up your statement.
 
Wez said:
HRC sucks, happy? Now, please tell us, without any mention of HRC, why you feel Trump should not be our POTUS.
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Happy? Generally speaking I'm very happy, thanks for asking.
Your right HRC sucks. She represents the problem with politics & political correctness.
Why shouldn't Trump be our President? If there was a better choice he wouldn't be in the game.
If folks were happy with where our country is at, Trump wouldn't stand a chance, Trump wouldn't be the nominee.
Congress changed hands a couple years back because folks were fed up with DC & the direction of the country.
Nothing has changed, just more political BS from the powers that be.
Trump is the result, many folks have come to realize that like it or not Trump represents that change.
If Hillary is elected, nothing changes.
Trump represents and screams change.
 
Wez asks:
Wez said:
Please tell us, without any mention of HRC, why you feel Trump should not be our POTUS.
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Lion answers:
Lion Eyes said:
Your right HRC sucks. She represents the problem with politics & political correctness.
Why shouldn't Trump be our President? If there was a better choice he wouldn't be in the game.
If folks were happy with where our country is at, Trump wouldn't stand a chance, Trump wouldn't be the nominee.
Congress changed hands a couple years back because folks were fed up with DC & the direction of the country.
Nothing has changed, just more political BS from the powers that be.
Trump is the result, many folks have come to realize that like it or not Trump represents that change.
If Hillary is elected, nothing changes.
Trump represents and screams change.
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So you can't answer the question because you do feel Trump should be our President and you can't find anything wrong with him?

Don't bother responding with more HRC talk, your feelings on her couldn't be more clear. Want I'd like to see is some actual discussion on your feelings regarding Trump running our Country.
 
Wez said:
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Lion answers:


So you can't answer the question because you do feel Trump should be our President and you can't find anything wrong with him?

Don't bother responding with more HRC talk, your feelings on her couldn't be more clear. Want I'd like to see is some actual discussion on your feelings regarding Trump running our Country.
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It's not a bother responding to you Wez, hell it's a pleasure.
What you'd like to see is your problem.

Better Trump than Hillary...sad but true.
That's the best I can say about Trump.
There are many things I don't like about Trump.
Believe me, I wish we had a better choice. We don't.
You've decided to vote for the status quo and a known commodity. Good for you.
One thing for sure, Hillary needs the position to continue enriching herself...
 
Lion Eyes said:
It's not a bother responding to you Wez, hell it's a pleasure.
What you'd like to see is your problem.

Better Trump than Hillary...sad but true.
That's the best I can say about Trump.
There are many things I don't like about Trump.
Believe me, I wish we had a better choice. We don't.
You've decided to vote for the status quo and a known commodity. Good for you.
One thing for sure, Hillary needs the position to continue enriching herself...
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Fair enough. Remove the candidates themselves, I found the overall theme at the DNC much more positive, compassionate and constructive. It's as much a vote for the platform as the candidate.
 
Lion Eyes said:
It's not a bother responding to you Wez, hell it's a pleasure.
What you'd like to see is your problem.

Better Trump than Hillary...sad but true.
That's the best I can say about Trump.
There are many things I don't like about Trump.
Believe me, I wish we had a better choice. We don't.
You've decided to vote for the status quo and a known commodity. Good for you.
One thing for sure, Hillary needs the position to continue enriching herself...
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Some people are voting for Hillary because she is a woman, and they are women. Some people are voting or Hillary because she is a Democrat, and they are Democrats.

So far Trump has shown himself to be a liar, a braggart, a bigot, a criminal and an idiot. What's your reason for voting for him?
 
Good to see at least some Republican's are still willing to put the interests of the nation above blind loyalty to a political party that seems to have gone adrift. The sooner more of you speak out, the sooner the party will before forced to provide better alternatives then characters like Trump and Cruz.


Republican national-security leaders trash Donald Trump in joint letter
http://www.businessinsider.com/republican-national-security-trump-letter-2016-3

In a joint statement on Wednesday, dozens of Republican national-security leaders called Donald Trump's experience and policies into question.

The experts stated that while they disagree on many issues, they all agree that the Republican presidential frontrunner's administration would not be good for the country.

"We the undersigned, members of the Republican national-security community, represent a broad spectrum of opinion on America's role in the world and what is necessary to keep us safe and prosperous," they wrote in the letter, which was published by the foreign-policy website War On The Rocks.

The national-security leaders added: "We have disagreed with one another on many issues, including the Iraq war and intervention in Syria. But we are united in our opposition to a Donald Trump presidency."

The letter includes some notable names in foreign policy: Frances Townsend is a former homeland-security adviser; Michael Chertoff is a former secretary of homeland security; Max Boot is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and well-known foreign-policy commentator; and Robert Kagan is a leading neoconservative and historian.

The letter runs down a list of objections to Trump's statements and foreign-policy positions. Their reasons are many, but a few of the most strongly worded are below:

His vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle. He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence.

His hateful, anti-Muslim rhetoric undercuts the seriousness of combatting Islamic radicalism by alienating partners in the Islamic world making significant contributions to the effort. Furthermore, it endangers the safety and Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of American Muslims.

His admiration for foreign dictators such as Vladimir Putin is unacceptable for the leader of the world’s greatest democracy.

He is fundamentally dishonest. Evidence of this includes his attempts to deny positions he has unquestionably taken in the past, including on the 2003 Iraq war and the 2011 Libyan conflict. We accept that views evolve over time, but this is simply misrepresentation.
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Lion Eyes said:
Just goes to show that the system is rigged for Hillary....
Bernie Sanders won Michigan, beat Hillary fair and square.
Yet Hillary received more delegates from Michigan than Bernie. Remember Bernie won the primary in Michigan.

You keep trying to justify what Hillary and the Democrats are doing by pointing at the Republicans.
The Republicans had people out in the open trying to stop Trump. They were up front about what they wanted.
The Democrats conspired, colluded if you will, to favor Hillary. They lied about the conspiracy.
What a surprise....Fake outrage? Pffff...
30 plus years of Clinton lies & collusions and folks keep trying to justify it.... outrageous indeed.
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Actually what is says to me (given that both parties tried to influence the outcomes of their primaries) is that the DNC is more competent then the RNC... otherwise you wouldn't be in here like a damn fool, defending some guy I know you loathe, as competent to lead the nation Lion.

Or to put it another way, just because the RNC proved incompetent in losing to Trump doesn't mean they were somehow less guilty of trying to influence the election. They simply proved incompetent.
 
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http://www.vox.com/2016/7/28/12
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[URL]http://www.vox.com/2016/7/28/12319178/obama-trump-reddit-ama
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Wez said:
"In separate Reddit “Ask Me Anything” sessions, Trump (on Wednesday) and Obama (in 2012) were asked about reducing the power of money in politics, but each gave vastly different answers..."
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"In separate Reddit “Ask Me Anything” sessions, Trump (on Wednesday) and Obama (in 2012) were asked about reducing the power of money in politics, but each gave vastly different answers..."
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Trump says:

Keeping Crooked Hillary Clinton out of the White House!

Comey said it much better then Donald though.
 
Wez said:
Fair enough. Remove the candidates themselves, I found the overall theme at the DNC much more positive, compassionate and constructive. It's as much a vote for the platform as the candidate.
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Fair enough comrade.
The Democrat platform is a socialist platform.
 
tenacious said:
Actually what is says to me (given that both parties tried to influence the outcomes of their primaries) is that the DNC is more competent then the RNC... otherwise you wouldn't be in here like a damn fool, defending some guy I know you loathe, as competent to lead the nation Lion.

Or to put it another way, just because the RNC proved incompetent in losing to Trump doesn't mean they were somehow less guilty of trying to influence the election. They simply proved incompetent.
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More competent? Geezzzuuus....
Wasserman Shultz, Clinton & Obama decided what was best for you...
You sure know what competent means?
Bernie carried Michigan yet Hillary received more delegates... now that is competent.
Muahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa.......From the cradle to the grave just take care me, please.
 
espola said:
Some people are voting for Hillary because she is a woman, and they are women. Some people are voting or Hillary because she is a Democrat, and they are Democrats.

So far Trump has shown himself to be a liar, a braggart, a bigot, a criminal and an idiot. What's your reason for voting for him?
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So far Hillary has shown herself to be a liar, a hypocrite, and a derelict.
 
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