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Wez said:
Two articles with non-main stream viewpoints The 1st basically a Jill Stein ad and the 2nd a critique of the Clintons from a liberal source:

https://medium.com/@ronaldwdixon/do...clear-of-gary-johnson-21321874ddc8#.kpfmryp9y

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/et_tu_bernie_20160712
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The weakness for both Johnson and Stein is that they are stuck with their respective party's platforms. I considered myself a Libertarian for a while, until I realized that their version of personal liberty included supporting platform planks that I found offensive and for which I had no input. The Green Party started with a single idea based on environmental action, but has grown into a collection of unrelated mini-topics, mixing anti-nukes with homeopathy advocates.

"Meet the new boss -- same as the old boss"
 
Lion Eyes said:
If only it were true......
If the Russians do have the 30,000 emails it's no big deal right?
Hillary already told us she erased only personal stuff about Chelsea's wedding and emails to Bill or exercise class...
She assured us that no top secret information was ever sent or received...
No worries.
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Trump is playing Hillary like a drumb on this...
 
Wez said:
Is that the worst description you can come up with for him, seriously? Can you think of some others, because there are quite a few. I love how Trump has beaten down America with lies, racism and bigotry, to the point where they now are just giving him a pass... it's as you say, a disgrace.



It's actually Trump who takes every opportunity to steal the press away from the Dems and he gets a pass on any and all methods to do this.



I actually agree here, the Russia comments will go no where, just like allegations against HRC, but they do speak to his love affair with Putin.
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Many find it hard to believe that a very sharp lady and former attorney didnʻt know what she was doing when she used an unsecured server to send 8 TOP SECRET e-mails. Trump doesnʻt need Putinʻs help. Comeyʻs speech on Hillaryʻs dereliction should be enough. But like Comey, Hillary supporters are willing to look past her wrongs. Bizzaro.
 
Wez said:
Setting aside the factual deficiencies topic, did you watch both conventions? Did you prefer the messages of doom and gloom coming out of the RNC? If you can separate your party preferences, the overall messages coming from the DNC seemed much more positive. "America is already great, but can improve", vs. "America is going to hell and only DJT can fix it"?
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Too easy Wez. Positive spin was all the DNC was.
 
Wez said:
Sometimes you strike me as a profoundly sad man, very negative. Just my impression, the opposite could be true.
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When the FBI director tells me that my tax dollars are being used to put Hillary above the law in regard to sending TOP SECRET e-mails on an unauthorized server, itʻs sad to think that my service brothers may be held to a standard that their CINC will not be. Her actions are Dishonorable at best.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
When the FBI director tells me that my tax dollars are being used to put Hillary above the law in regard to sending TOP SECRET e-mails on an unauthorized server, itʻs sad to think that my service brothers may be held to a standard that their CINC will not be. Her actions are Dishonorable at best.
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It's said the worst part about Hell is the line to get inside.
 
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Bruddah IZ said:
When the FBI director tells me that my tax dollars are being used to put Hillary above the law in regard to sending TOP SECRET e-mails on an unauthorized server, itʻs sad to think that my service brothers may be held to a standard that their CINC will not be. Her actions are Dishonorable at best.
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You can't get past HRC, I ask a question about Trump and you go right back to HRC, it's a little OCD in my eyes...
 
Ladda dada dee, ladda dada die.....
Some on the left will accuse Trump of having Wikileaks & the Russians on his side....and of course accusing Trump of "espionage" is convenient when the DNC corruption is playing to the nation.

WikiLeaks could release more material on US election, says Assange

Even as the dust is yet to settle on the controversy surrounding the high-profile DNC hack, which has played a prominent role in the 2016 US presidential election, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said his whistleblowing platform may make public "a lot more" campaign material related to the election.

Just a week after WikiLeaks released nearly 20,000 DNC emails which came close on the heels of the DNC hack by suspected Russian hackers, WikiLeaks released 25 DNC voicemails that likely come from the leaked email dump. According to a report by Motherboard, there is no evidence to indicate that the voicemail recordings are part of a new leak.

Assange told CNN in an interview that DNC officials were taking advantage of the possibility of Russia's involvement in the hack to distract voters from the contents of the emails, which have revealed shocking internal discord and collusion.

Speaking from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where Assange has resided for five years now, he said: "It raises questions about the natural instincts of Clinton that when confronted with a serious domestic political scandal, she tries to blame the Russians, blame the Chinese, et cetera. Because if she does that while in government, it could lead to problems."

He, however, refrained from either confirming or denying Russia's involvement in the hack. "Perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be an interesting moment some people may have egg on their faces. But to exclude certain actors is to make it easier to find out who our sources are," Assange added.

Despite mounting evidence indicating Russia's involvement in the hack, Kremlin officials have rejected all allegations. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said: "I completely rule out a possibility that the Russian government or government bodies have been involved in this."

Donald Trump also weighed in, encouraging Russia to find Hillary Clinton's 30,000 missing emails. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said." I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

The Republican presidential nominee has been severely criticised by the Clinton campaign, who accused him of spurring a foreign rival to "commit espionage in the US".

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-says-assange/ar-BBuYBN6?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
 
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