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Wez said:
So you're considered brave and "taking on" something by simply spreading lies?
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They all seem to want to go back in time to when the white male was king and ruler ('50's? early 60's?) . . . they just can't understand why no one else does. Women don't, minorities don't, gays don't . . .
 
Lion Eyes said:
If you like your plan, you can keep your plan...
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
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Hey LE, good morning! Have you noticed that you and some of the others that you agree with keep hanging on to a small hand full of Obama falsehoods to cover up for an ever growing mountain of such?
 
Everybody hear why the Judge stayed Trumps Immigration Ban? Really you can't make some of up...

Sheriff Joe said:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...n-after-his-own-lawyers-can-t-justify-it.html
Judge Blocks Part of Trump’s Immigration Ban After His Own Lawyers Can’t Justify It

Donnelly pressed the government on how it could claim those already vetted and now suddenly rejected by the United States wouldn’t suffer “irreparable harm” if they “were sent back to some of the most dangerous places on earth.”

That’s not a trick question, but one part of the four-part balancing act a judge must use to decide on a request to halt such an order. Again, the government’s lawyers didn’t even attempt a real answer, just went on for a bit about how many different people with different circumstances would be affected in many different ways by the order.

Asked how many people had been detained, Riley said: “The government does not have sufficient information to answer.”

Donnelly had heard enough.

“That’s exactly why I’m going to grant” the ACLU’s request, she ruled at about 9 p.m.—with perhaps 20 minutes to spare for the unknown Syrian.
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Sheriff Joe said:
Good grief you are a crazy, minority, gay bitch.
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Yes I suppose if I were in your guys position of feeling like I had to support Trump; I'd be calling names, complaining about unfair news reporting and doing everything I could to have to avoid actually discussing what a disaster he was too. Lol... yawls hatred is like music to my ears.

Anyway, after Trump crashes the economy and the housing markets look me up. I'm not bitter toward you guys, and would be happy to give you a few bucks to mow my lawn and do some side work at the house.
 
Lion Eyes said:
If you like your plan, you can keep your plan...
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
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Still whining about Obamacare? Guess that means we're all still locked out of discussions on what the Republican alternative will be while the Republican bosses over in Washington figure it out in some smokey room how to make America Great again...
 
Bernie Sanders said:
His supporters support him because he's the only guy in eons with a set of balls big enough to take on washington, and their tools in the lapdog media..
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Yes, and with Putins help and lots of poorly written executive orders I think he might just do it. When you wish upon a star, makes no difference where you are...
 
tenacious said:
Yes, and with Putins help and lots of poorly written executive orders I think he might just do it. When you wish upon a star, makes no difference where you are...
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Many of the poorly written executive orders are gone or going soon.
Thats the thing about executive orders. The next "executive" can un- order them.
 
Sure seems like Trump is a bit slow at catching on... but boy is he giving the opposition lots to mobilize and and fundraise off of his unilateral moves. First the women's march and now he's bringing them out again with the women's march. But of course after 8 years of watching Republican's perfect the art of being the minority party, I can't feel to bad.


tenacious said:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/president-trumps-first-defeat-214707
President Trump’s First Defeat
The immigration order creates an international mess—and a political embarrassment.

“It’s working out very nicely,” President Donald Trump said on Saturday afternoon as he signed his latest batch of executive actions. “You see it in the airports.”

It was the usual confident swagger from a man accustomed to getting his way. But by then, a revolt against the president’s immigration order was already brewing, led by refugee rights groups, the American Civil Liberties Union, Democrats and liberals on social media, who had woken up to reports suggesting it was not working out very nicely at all. By 7:30 in the evening, protests at major airports across the United States had swollen, a federal judge was hearing a legal challenge, and cable news networks—with one notable exception—were covering the stunning events live. Passions ran so high that New Yorkers, many joked, were actually volunteering to go to JFK Airport to show solidarity with those detained by bewildered immigration officials.

Was this what Trump had in mind?
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Bernie Sanders said:
Many of the poorly written executive orders are gone or going soon.
Thats the thing about executive orders. The next "executive" can un- order them.
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Actually many of the poorly written executive orders are going to get shut down by the courts and the legislature long before that. Unfortunately for him and you, the founding Father's set up a system of checks and balances. Sorta like when Obama came to Washington with his team from Chicago... Trump is going to have to start moving more experienced players onto his team or risk defeat after defeat because he doesn't seem to have anyone on his staff capable of writing executive orders that the courts will accept.
 
tenacious said:
Sure seems like Trump is a bit slow at catching on... but boy is he giving the opposition lots to mobilize and and fundraise off of his unilateral moves. First the women's march and now he's bringing them out again with the women's march. But of course after 8 years of watching Republican's perfect the art of being the minority party, I can't feel to bad.
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Which women's march?
 
tenacious said:
Actually many of the poorly written executive orders are going to get shut down by the courts and the legislature long before that. Unfortunately for him and you, the founding Father's set up a system of checks and balances. Sorta like when Obama came to Washington with his team from Chicago... Trump is going to have to start moving more experienced players onto his team or risk defeat after defeat because he doesn't seem to have anyone on his staff capable of writing executive orders that the courts will accept.
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Are you suggesting that this executive cannot undo the prior executive's poorly written executive orders?
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Are you suggesting that this executive cannot undo the prior executive's poorly written executive orders?
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I'm suggesting that if the court says Trumps executive orders can't be justified in court, or they overstep his authority, then they will be put in the trashcan long before the next president arrives...

That all the sound and fury coming out of the current Whitehouse doesn't amount to much... because at this point, Trumps team doesn't seem capable of writing executive orders that are legal.
 
tenacious said:
I'm suggesting that if the court says Trumps executive orders that can't be justified in court, or they overstep his authority, then they will be put in the trashcan long before the next president arrives...
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Keep me posted.
Meanwhile, the prior executive's poorly written executive orders will be, or already are, history.
 
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