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- Thread starter Bruddah IZ
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Have you printed words where racists are courted, complimented or condoned by the GOP.
Show examples where racism was being used to benefit the GOP.
Hüsker Dü
DA
See: southern strategy to gain southern votes.
Wez
DA
Are you on crack, I did show examples. Go back and check the links I've posted.
Let me get this straight...
The Republicans were using racist "code" words.
If you believe in things like states rights, you're a racist?
If you are not for affirmative action, you're a racist?
Having grown up in SoCal, apparently I am naive when it comes to code words & this southern strategy.
Not surprisingly there is disagreement between "scholars" regarding what academia claims is the southern strategy.
...."Southern strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South, which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white southerners' racial resentments in order to gain their support. This top-down narrative of the southern strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed southern politics following the civil rights era. This view has been questioned by historians such as Matthew Lassiter, Kevin M. Kruse and Joseph Crespino who have presented an alternative, "bottom up" narrative, which Lassiter has called the "suburban strategy".....
Political scientist Nelson W. Polsby argued that economic development was more central than racial desegregation in the evolution of the postwar South in Congress. In The End of Southern Exceptionalism: Class, Race, and Partisan Change in the Postwar South the British political scientist Byron E. Shafer and the Canadian Richard Johnston, developed the Polsby the argument in greater depth. Using roll call analysis of voting patterns in the House of Representatives, they found that Issues of desegregation and race were less important than issues of economics and social class when it came to the transformation of partisanship in the South. This view is backed by Glenn Feldman who notes that the early narratives on the southern realignment focused on the idea of appealing to racism. This argument was first and thus took hold as the accepted narrative. He notes, however, that Lassiter's dissenting view on this subject, a view that the realignment was a "suburban strategy" rather than a "southern strategy" was just one of the first of a rapidly growing list of scholars who see the civil rights, "white backlash" as a secondary or minor factor. Authors such as Tim Boyd, George Lewis, Michael Bowen, and John W. White follow the lead of Lassiter, Shafer and Johnston in viewing suburban voters and their self interests as the primary reason for the realignment. He doesn't discount race as part of the motivation of these suburban voters who were fleeing urban crime and school busing.
Gareth Davies argues that "[t]he scholarship of those who emphasize the southern strategizing Nixon is not so much wrong – it captures one side of the man – as it is unsophisticated and incomplete. Nixon and his enemies needed one another in order to get the job done." Lawrence McAndrews makes a similar argument, saying Nixon pursued a mixed strategy:
Some scholars claim that Nixon succeeded, by leading a principled assault on de jure school desegregation. Others claim that he failed, by orchestrating a politically expedient surrender to de facto school segregation. A close examination of the evidence, however, reveals that in the area of school desegregation, Nixon's record was a mixture of principle and politics, progress and paralysis, success and failure. In the end, he was neither simply the cowardly architect of a racially insensitive "Southern strategy" which condoned segregation, nor the courageous conductor of a politically risky "not-so-Southern strategy" which condemned it.
In interviews with historians years later, Nixon denied that he ever practiced a Southern strategy. Harry Dent, one of Nixon's senior advisers on Southern politics, told Nixon privately in 1969 that the administration "has no Southern strategy, but rather a national strategy which, for the first time in modern times, includes the South.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
Wez
DA
Not really a secret code word, just spoke to people in ways that would appeal to racists, just like Trump does.
Do you understand the context in which States Rights was used, in the example I posted? The "State", refused to investigate or prosecute the Civil Rights workers murders. The Feds had to take it over and so when Reagan spoke to the townsfolk in Mississippi about States Rights, he was talking to a town that condoned the murders and were pissed the Federal Gov. had made them answer for their crimes. States Rights are fine, until the State goes mad...
You seem so bitter....
I admitted I don't really get it. Still don't. I hope that doesn't cause you "psychic terror". (Is there any other kind?)
"Having grown up in SoCal, apparently I am naive when it comes to code words & this southern strategy."
Merry Christmas Magoo.
Wez
DA
See the movie Mississippi burning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Burning
"Mississippi Burning is a 1988 American crime thriller film directed by Alan Parker, and written by Chris Gerolmo. It is loosely based on the FBI's investigation into the murders of three civil rights workers in the state of Mississippi in 1964. Set in fictional Jessup County, Mississippi, the film stars Gene Hackman and Willem Dafoe as two FBI agents assigned to investigate the disappearance of three civil rights workers. The investigation is met with hostility and backlash by the town's residents, local police and the Ku Klux Klan."
Now imagine your Presidential candidate making it a priority to stop in that town (the bad guys) to talk to them about how he's for State's rights. The implication being he was against the Feds (FBI) stepping into their town business.
Magoo may be bitter, but I don't think he understands why.
Wez
DA
Why is our National Security adviser meeting with a Nazis party?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/w...gns-a-cooperation-pact-with-putins-party.html
"The leader of the Austrian far-right Freedom Party has signed what he called a cooperation agreement with Russia’s ruling party and recently met with Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the designated national security adviser to President-elect Donald J. Trump of the United States."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/w...gns-a-cooperation-pact-with-putins-party.html
"The leader of the Austrian far-right Freedom Party has signed what he called a cooperation agreement with Russia’s ruling party and recently met with Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the designated national security adviser to President-elect Donald J. Trump of the United States."
*GOBEARGO*
PREMIER
Wez
DA
Haven't heard of a lot of those, what's wrong with Soros? I say that tongue-in-cheek because he is such a legendary figure in the Right's minds as being responsible for everything they hate....
But seriously, is there a reason to meet with a Nazis party??
So Trump meeting with Nazis is a good thing?
I've seen Mississippi Burning.
Hell, I watched the civil rights marches, the Watts riots, the assassinations of the Kennedy's and King on TV as a child growing up in SoCal.
So Nixon, Reagan and Trump stopped in and spoke in front of these KKK members, law breaking racists & winked?
Got it...
Wez
DA
I can only lead you to water... It's not surprising you refuse to drink, that's pretty standard partisan shit in this forum.
Sheriff Joe
DA
The Nazi thought Trump was Byrd,
or maybe it is just Trump reaching out to the dems
