Ponderable
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Sheriff Joe
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Wez
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Do you ever tire of being so damn wrong???
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history.
In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.
Sheriff Joe
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Wez
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Ok, you're just too dumb to continue a discussion with, I mean fuck, how do you get through the day???
Ummm......No we don't.
Is ID out along the border ? No.
Is the Border Patrol free to do their job ? No.
Are all the Police Depts free to arrest criminal Immigrants ? No.
Is Mayor Garcetti a freakin Idiot ? Yes.
Proper vetting and properly operating the borders would have probably created a different scenario on Nov 8th 2016.....
But the Man Child had a different game plan and it was not in Americas best interest, thus a Donald Trump landslide.
Wez
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This is so good (bad?) that I'm not going to try to correct it.
Bruddah IZ
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Bruddah IZ
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Aleppo and American decline
Charles Krauthammer
The fall of Aleppo just weeks before Barack Obama leaves office is a fitting stamp on his Middle East policy of retreat and withdrawal. The pitiable pictures from the devastated city showed the true cost of Obama’s abdication. For which he seems to have few regrets, however. In his end-of-year news conference, Obama defended U.S. inaction with his familiar false choice: It was either stand aside or order a massive Iraq-style ground invasion.
This is a transparent fiction designed to stifle debate. At the beginning of the civil war, the popular uprising was ascendant. What kept a rough equilibrium was regime control of the skies. At that point, the United States, at little risk and cost, could have declared Syria a no-fly zone, much as it did Iraqi Kurdistan for a dozen years after the Gulf War of 1991.
The U.S. could easily have destroyed the regime’s planes and helicopters on the ground and so cratered its airfields as to make them unusable. That would have altered the strategic equation for the rest of the war.
And would have deterred the Russians from injecting their own air force — they would have had to challenge ours for air superiority. Facing no U.S. deterrent, Russia stepped in and decisively altered the balance, pounding the rebels in Aleppo to oblivion. The Russians were particularly adept at hitting hospitals and other civilian targets, leaving the rebels with the choice between annihilation and surrender.
They surrendered.
entire article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6616a33048d_story.html?utm_term=.e2d9d81141f6
Charles Krauthammer
The fall of Aleppo just weeks before Barack Obama leaves office is a fitting stamp on his Middle East policy of retreat and withdrawal. The pitiable pictures from the devastated city showed the true cost of Obama’s abdication. For which he seems to have few regrets, however. In his end-of-year news conference, Obama defended U.S. inaction with his familiar false choice: It was either stand aside or order a massive Iraq-style ground invasion.
This is a transparent fiction designed to stifle debate. At the beginning of the civil war, the popular uprising was ascendant. What kept a rough equilibrium was regime control of the skies. At that point, the United States, at little risk and cost, could have declared Syria a no-fly zone, much as it did Iraqi Kurdistan for a dozen years after the Gulf War of 1991.
The U.S. could easily have destroyed the regime’s planes and helicopters on the ground and so cratered its airfields as to make them unusable. That would have altered the strategic equation for the rest of the war.
And would have deterred the Russians from injecting their own air force — they would have had to challenge ours for air superiority. Facing no U.S. deterrent, Russia stepped in and decisively altered the balance, pounding the rebels in Aleppo to oblivion. The Russians were particularly adept at hitting hospitals and other civilian targets, leaving the rebels with the choice between annihilation and surrender.
They surrendered.
entire article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6616a33048d_story.html?utm_term=.e2d9d81141f6
Sheriff Joe
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The real, official gun death numbers.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/04/the-truth-about-gun-deaths-numbers-and-actual-solutions/
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/04/the-truth-about-gun-deaths-numbers-and-actual-solutions/
Hüsker Dü
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Opinion polls indicate that a majority of Russians support their country’s military campaign. But that support, some analysts say, is lukewarm and largely dependent on Russian casualties remaining low. Most people here have lingering memories of the Soviet Union’s costly nine-year war in Afghanistan, which claimed the lives of some 15,000 Red Army soldiers. “People remember Afghanistan,” says Denis Volkov, a sociologist at the Moscow-based Levada Center polling company. “And they don’t want a repeat of this.”
To counter those fears, the Kremlin has produced a sophisticated propaganda campaign that stresses the aerial nature of Russia’s involvement. And while Western media outlets frequently highlight the horrors of the Syrian war and its complicated, shifting alliances, Russian state TV has portrayed the campaign as part of a straightforward battle between Assad, Syria’s “legitimate” leader, and “international terrorists” such as the Islamic State militant group (ISIS). Russia also says no civilians have died as a result of its airstrikes, while government officials refuse to accept the existence of what Western countries call a “moderate” opposition.
“The war is widely seen as a good and necessary cause,” says Alexander Shumilin, a Moscow-based Middle East analyst. “And the victims are just viewed as unfortunate collateral damage.”
It also remains to be seen how the increase of anti-Western rhetoric over Syria will influence Russian public opinion. Since the collapse of a brief cease-fire deal, Russian officials have threatened to shoot down U.S. warplanes if they target forces loyal to Assad. Also, an article published by the website of the Russian Ministry of Defense’s TV channel, Zvezda, has alleged that “schizophrenics from America are sharpening nuclear missiles for Moscow.”
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/21/why-russians-dont-care-putin-war-syria-508329.html
To counter those fears, the Kremlin has produced a sophisticated propaganda campaign that stresses the aerial nature of Russia’s involvement. And while Western media outlets frequently highlight the horrors of the Syrian war and its complicated, shifting alliances, Russian state TV has portrayed the campaign as part of a straightforward battle between Assad, Syria’s “legitimate” leader, and “international terrorists” such as the Islamic State militant group (ISIS). Russia also says no civilians have died as a result of its airstrikes, while government officials refuse to accept the existence of what Western countries call a “moderate” opposition.
“The war is widely seen as a good and necessary cause,” says Alexander Shumilin, a Moscow-based Middle East analyst. “And the victims are just viewed as unfortunate collateral damage.”
It also remains to be seen how the increase of anti-Western rhetoric over Syria will influence Russian public opinion. Since the collapse of a brief cease-fire deal, Russian officials have threatened to shoot down U.S. warplanes if they target forces loyal to Assad. Also, an article published by the website of the Russian Ministry of Defense’s TV channel, Zvezda, has alleged that “schizophrenics from America are sharpening nuclear missiles for Moscow.”
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/21/why-russians-dont-care-putin-war-syria-508329.html
Hüsker Dü
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Until the Kremlin’s propaganda machine went into overdrive last fall, 69 percent of Russians opposed any military involvement in Syria, according to a Levada Center poll. Yet just weeks later, following almost daily media reports on the threat posed by ISIS, 72 percent of Russians were in favor of the war. Some analysts suggest that apathy and conditional support might suit the Kremlin fine, at least for now. “For the authorities, it is not so much the support of the population that is important as the absence of any discontent over the war,” says Volkov.
Sheriff Joe
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Here are some quotes from hitler, sounds like the Kenyans 2008 campaign plan.
“The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be believed.”
“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
“The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be believed.”
“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
Sheriff Joe
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Wez, which one did the Kenyan not do?
