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The progressives believed, first and foremost, in the importance of science and scientific experts in guiding the economy, government, and society. Against the selfishness, disorder, corruption, ignorance, conflict and wastefulness of free markets or mass democracy, they advanced the ideal of disinterested, public-spirited social control by well-educated elites. The progressives were technocrats who, Leonard observes, “agreed that expert public administrators do not merely serve the common good, they also identify the common good.” Schools of public administration, including the one that since 1948 has borne Woodrow Wilson’s name, still enshrine that conviction.
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No, just on matters of Science, you know, like Climate change.
The ones most likely to have a gun accident re those who think it can't happen.
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/12/cleveland_man_charged_in_deadl_3.html
"There you go. Now it's not loaded".
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/12/cleveland_man_charged_in_deadl_3.html
"There you go. Now it's not loaded".
Bruddah IZ
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Wez
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What does a public administrator have to do with a Scientist? Scientists report on matters they are highly trained in, it's our elected officials who serve in the people's interests. Ideally they do so with advice from experts in their subject matter.
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http://www.npr.org/2016/12/15/505775550/obama-on-russian-hacking-we-need-to-take-action-and-we-will
"The irony of all this, of course, is that for most of my presidency, there's been a pretty sizable wing of the Republican Party that has consistently criticized me for not being tough enough on Russia," he said. "Some of those folks during the campaign endorsed Donald Trump, despite the fact that a central tenet of his foreign policy was we shouldn't be so tough on Russia. And that kind of inconsistency I think makes it appear, at least, that their particular position on Russia on any given day depends on what's politically expedient."
"The irony of all this, of course, is that for most of my presidency, there's been a pretty sizable wing of the Republican Party that has consistently criticized me for not being tough enough on Russia," he said. "Some of those folks during the campaign endorsed Donald Trump, despite the fact that a central tenet of his foreign policy was we shouldn't be so tough on Russia. And that kind of inconsistency I think makes it appear, at least, that their particular position on Russia on any given day depends on what's politically expedient."
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"This is somebody, the former head of the KGB, who is responsible for crushing democracy in Russia, muzzling the press, throwing political dissidents in jail, countering American efforts to expand freedom at every turn; is currently making decisions that's leading to a slaughter in Syria. And a big chunk of the Republican Party, which prided itself during the Reagan era and for decades that followed as being the bulwark against Russian influence, now suddenly is embracing him."
NPR reached out to the Trump transition team for comment but has not received a response.
NPR reached out to the Trump transition team for comment but has not received a response.
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Hüsker Dü
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So why isn't Romney the Pres? . . . and Trump will now dwarf all of Obama or Dubya's gaffs tenfold.
Bruddah IZ
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Obama was wrong about Russia then and, he might be wrong about Russia again. And Unless the Fed is going to start a fourth round of QE Trump will come nowhere close to dwarfing Obama.
If the election of 2016 reminded us of one important civics lesson, it is this: The United States is not, and has never been, a direct democracy. It is a democratic republic.
If it were intended to be a direct democracy, it would be the United Citizens of America. Rather, it is the United States of America, with 50 separate sovereignties that have surrendered some of their sovereignty to the federal government under strict terms delineated in the Constitution.
The Electoral College was a compromise — the original plan was for the House of Representatives to elect the president. In the Articles of Confederation, which preceded the Constitution, the Congress elected a committee with one representative from each state. That committee, in turn, elected the president. The first president was actually John Hanson. George Washington was the first president under the Constitution.
So even though Hillary Clinton won the popular election by nearly 3 million votes, 31 of the 50 states elected Donald Trump.
Put y'all know this already.
If it were intended to be a direct democracy, it would be the United Citizens of America. Rather, it is the United States of America, with 50 separate sovereignties that have surrendered some of their sovereignty to the federal government under strict terms delineated in the Constitution.
The Electoral College was a compromise — the original plan was for the House of Representatives to elect the president. In the Articles of Confederation, which preceded the Constitution, the Congress elected a committee with one representative from each state. That committee, in turn, elected the president. The first president was actually John Hanson. George Washington was the first president under the Constitution.
So even though Hillary Clinton won the popular election by nearly 3 million votes, 31 of the 50 states elected Donald Trump.
Put y'all know this already.
Sheriff Joe
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Yes they do, but they are running out of options and HOPE.If the election of 2016 reminded us of one important civics lesson, it is this: The United States is not, and has never been, a direct democracy. It is a democratic republic.
If it were intended to be a direct democracy, it would be the United Citizens of America. Rather, it is the United States of America, with 50 separate sovereignties that have surrendered some of their sovereignty to the federal government under strict terms delineated in the Constitution.
The Electoral College was a compromise — the original plan was for the House of Representatives to elect the president. In the Articles of Confederation, which preceded the Constitution, the Congress elected a committee with one representative from each state. That committee, in turn, elected the president. The first president was actually John Hanson. George Washington was the first president under the Constitution.
So even though Hillary Clinton won the popular election by nearly 3 million votes, 31 of the 50 states elected Donald Trump.
Put y'all know this already.
Arizona got rid of Sheriff Joe - will Orange County's Sheriff Sandra be next? Local judges, the count Grand Jury, the California Attorney General , and now the Federal Department of Justice have been investigating thethe way the Sheriff handles informants in the County Jail. One judge complained that he has been waiting four years for a report on evidence allegedly withheld by the jail officers and/or prosecutors, holding off his final sentencing of a criminal while he waits.
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The electoral college was a compromise with the slave states so they could claim them as 3/5's of human being to get better representation . . . because before air conditioning the South was almost uninhabitable. So a deal that highlighting the states original sin and our ugly past.If the election of 2016 reminded us of one important civics lesson, it is this: The United States is not, and has never been, a direct democracy. It is a democratic republic.
If it were intended to be a direct democracy, it would be the United Citizens of America. Rather, it is the United States of America, with 50 separate sovereignties that have surrendered some of their sovereignty to the federal government under strict terms delineated in the Constitution.
The Electoral College was a compromise — the original plan was for the House of Representatives to elect the president. In the Articles of Confederation, which preceded the Constitution, the Congress elected a committee with one representative from each state. That committee, in turn, elected the president. The first president was actually John Hanson. George Washington was the first president under the Constitution.
So even though Hillary Clinton won the popular election by nearly 3 million votes, 31 of the 50 states elected Donald Trump.
Put y'all know this already.
http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
Akhil Reed Amar surely understands the dangers of direct democracy.
Our founding fathers did.
More elitist views from the fringe left? Almost uninhabitable? Huh...
What you have posted regarding compromise doesn't change or negate the truthfulness of my post.
But if you want, we could go back to allowing the House of Rep's to elect the President.
Hillary won't even be on that ballot.
Be careful what you wish for....
Merry Christmas Huckster
Nixon was evil, but not stupid. w was stupid, but not evil.
I thought all "war criminals" were evil.