Player Development vs Super Team Chasing?

Luis Andres said:
Ok so it just happened during state cup not throughout the regular season. So it was a one time event I’m assuming? Interesting, so the coach was a female. Maybe she was intimidated by him? That’s what I would think. I understand she may have been overwhelmed by her own personal life but that is no excuse for her to let it happen and not confront him. My two cents. So he was the only one that thought you guys had a chance to advance in the tournament interesting. So what happened after that incident when you saw him again at team practice?
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Season was over bro and never saw Louis ever again. I hear his dd is a great player so I'm sure his coaching helped her get better :) Female coach was awesome btw and she deserved the gift we got her. Maybe she knew he was a whacko on meth and just wanted to get through the season alive. We went to heaven with JH for two years. She teaches the young girls to have fun, parties, dances, movies nights, scavenger hunts and yes, win or lose as a team :)
 
I’m to lazy and don’t care enough to look back to post 1. But what is this thread about again. Now back to my beer. Tonight I’m enjoying a Bells Two Hearted Ale. Yum.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
I’m to lazy and don’t care enough to look back to post 1. But what is this thread about again. Now back to my beer. Tonight I’m enjoying a Bells Two Hearted Ale. Yum.
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Player development vs super team chasing. Which path and why? User describing why the player development path would develop your child better than the so called super teams that are supposedly just about wins and no development. The status Quo of what most people liked. Post got 10 likes.

Next me coming in and questioning what one may mean by “player development” since it’s being so loosely thrown around as a marketing hype word. Wrote a post that caught the attention of some users that agreed it challenged the status Quo of what most had already agreed on. He even busted out the bowling shoes for me to bowl the strike. Then you came in with sandals instead for me to wear. Funny stuff. End of page 2, beginning of 3.

Then comes fact and it turns into a back and forth argument with drama over 8 year old kids.
 
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Luis Andres said:
Player development vs super team chasing. Which path and why? User describing why the player development path would develop your child better than the so called super teams that are supposedly just about wins and no development. The status Quo of what most people liked. Post got 10 likes.

Next me coming in and questioning what one may mean by “player development” since it’s being so loosely thrown around as a marketing hype word. Wrote a post that caught the attention of some users that agreed it challenged the status Quo of what most had already agreed on. He even busted out the bowling shoes for me to bowl the strike. Then you came in with sandals instead for me to wear. Funny stuff. Then comes fact and it turns into a back and forth argument with drama. End of page 2 beginning of 3
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I should have asked you how old your baby goat is?
 
Luis Andres said:
Player development vs super team chasing. Which path and why? User describing why the player development path would develop your child better than the so called super teams that are supposedly just about wins and no development. The status Quo of what most people liked. Post got 10 likes.

Next me coming in and questioning what one may mean by “player development” since it’s being so loosely thrown around as a marketing hype word. Wrote a post that caught the attention of some users that agreed it challenged the status Quo of what most had already agreed on. He even busted out the bowling shoes for me to bowl the strike. Then you came in with sandals instead for me to wear. Funny stuff. Then comes fact and it turns into a back and forth argument with drama. End of page 2 beginning of 3
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Yes, I recall now. Thanks for the summary. Proceed with the dual.
 
Fact said:
Ok so I think all of you are overthinking this thread. Every kiddo is different. Some kids are happy to make an Allstate team with their friends and ride the pine. Others will be discouraged and quit if they are not the center of the team.

I always tried to find a team were my kiddos were starters but not the best player on the team. This way they could grow with the better players yet retain a level of self esteem. Of course, this was not always possible because you also have to take into consideration the club, coach and other players/parents, plus distance you’re willing to travel and training schedules that work for your family; not an easy thing to juggle for most families.

If I had the chance to do it over, I would mix it up for my kiddos. Now there are so many more options like Futsal. I would probably have a mix of teams and levels for my kiddos. Maybe a Futsal team where they are one of the better players, maybe indoor with school friends and maybe a club team where they are the 8-10th player. Of course like I said above it depends on the kiddo and this also changes with age. One of my ds grew more from playing with his friends on a middle of the road team during his younger years. We had tried playing him on his older brother’s team where he was good enough to start but he shut down since none of the boys were his friends.

So I guess I am saying, take cues from your child.
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Thank you for providing your insight. I can’t hate you but praise you for expressing your thoughts that’s why you get my like.
 
@Fact I even went ahead and erased all the dumb ratings on posts I’ve never read except for the ones in the Luis Andres thread. I’m not gonna rate a thought of yours I’ve never read. I think it’s just wrong.
 
Luis Andres said:
No that was the camera man who caught the goal on his phone and was thanking him for it on post.
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So Luis, I first want to say your dd is a great player. She likes to pass which is not always happening at this age and it's obvious you have a deep passion for the game to be played the right way. OLE is where? Has she (you) been approached to go to DA Girls Club yet?
 
Justus said:
So Luis, I first want to say your dd is a great player. She likes to pass which is not always happening at this age and it's obvious you have a deep passion for the game to be played the right way. OLE is where? Has she (you) been approached to go to DA Girls Club yet?
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Ole yes they have a great development program for the young ages but they don’t usually keep teams past u11/u12. 9 years old is still too young for DA. However she has been scouted at tournaments by big clubs that have taken our information and that have a DA program. When the time is right to move on from the club we will look at the options and talk to the clubs that have expressed interest in her and see if DA is the right option for her. To be honest I wouldn’t mind her playing with boys either if that makes sense at the time. To me some of the top boys teams I’ve seen play much better possession soccer than girl teams do.
 
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Luis Andres said:
Ole yes they have a great development program for the young ages but they don’t usually keep teams past u11. 9 years old is still too young for DA. However she has been scouted at tournaments by big clubs that have taken our information and that have a DA program. When the time is right to move on from the club we will look at the options and talk to the clubs that have expressed interest in her and see if DA is the right option for her. To be honest I wouldn’t mind her playing with boys either if that makes sense at the time. To me some of the top boys teams I’ve seen play much better possession soccer than girl teams do.
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It would be interesting to hear the recruiting stories you come across from the DA clubs. Anyone offer Full Ride yet? I only say that because I see your baby goat with higher than average talent at the U10 level. Reminds me OM who is Pro now at 14. Is OLE in LA? I tried to get my dd to dream about playing on a boys team when she was 10. My dd flat out said no and told me to my face to get rid of that crazy idea now!!!! Lastly, my dd went the possession soccer route for two years and it was fun but when we played fast, physical and strong opponents the possession broke down and we had to fight for survival. The point I'm making is after the pre-teen and HS years, the college game will bite many of the players parents in the buttocks who think fast, physical and strong is not important anymore and only learning the true tactical, developmental part of the soccer game is what matters now. Let me to you Luis, I watched many games in college this year and if you don't care about bringing Ganas to the game, you will lose and wonder what the hell is happening. These girls at AZ, Pep, WA, Fullerton, Long Beach St, UCI have a fire that is missing at my beloved UCLA. Good luck Luis on this journey. Be careful out there and If I can be of any service, please don't hesitate to PM.
 
Justus said:
It would be interesting to hear the recruiting stories you come across from the DA clubs. Anyone offer Full Ride yet? I only say that because I see your baby goat with higher than average talent at the U10 level. Reminds me OM who is Pro now at 14. Is OLE in LA? I tried to get my dd to dream about playing on a boys team when she was 10. My dd flat out said no and told me to my face to get rid of that crazy idea now!!!! Lastly, my dd went the possession soccer route for two years and it was fun but when we played fast, physical and strong opponents the possession broke down and we had to fight for survival. The point I'm making is after the pre-teen and HS years, the college game will bite many of the players parents in the buttocks who think fast, physical and strong is not important anymore and only learning the true tactical, developmental part of the soccer game is what matters now. Let me to you Luis, I watched many games in college this year and if you don't care about bringing Ganas to the game, you will lose and wonder what the hell is happening. These girls at AZ, Pep, WA, Fullerton, Long Beach St, UCI have a fire that is missing at my beloved UCLA. Good luck Luis on this journey. Be careful out there and If I can be of any service, please don't hesitate to PM.
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The great part about the current team and group of girls she plays with is that ganas is what they are all about. To be honest I haven’t gotten into too much details with clubs that have tried recruited her but to say I will get back to them when the time is right and yes there have been offers for free tuition but to me it’s not about the money savings or getting a free ride. It’s where she will develop best at the current moment. If the game needs to get physical these girls are ready for the task. The system they implement is known for their high pressure defense and they shut down the possession soccer of the big teams forcing them to make mistakes and resort to playing kick ball. This team is probably one of the most physical and grittiest girls team when it comes to playing defense and forcing opponents to make mistakes.
 
Luis Andres said:
The great part about the current team and group of girls she plays with is that ganas is what they are all about. To be honest I haven’t gotten into too much details with clubs that have tried recruited her but to say I will get back to them when the time is right and yes there have been offers for free tuition but to me it’s not about the money savings or getting a free ride. It’s where she will develop best at the current moment. If the game needs to get physical these girls are ready for the task. The system they implement is known for their high pressure defense and they shut down the possession soccer of the big teams forcing them to make mistakes and resort to playing kick ball. This team is probably one of the most physical and grittiest girls team when it comes to their defense.
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So OLE has no older teams?
 
Justus said:
So OLE has no older teams?
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Our team is the oldest girls team at the moment. Young club but with a great philosophy to soccer development. Out here in LA Ole is the club you want to put your child in for the young ages. They have proven to take home grown players and develop them well.
 
Justus said:
Does your dd what to play on YNT, Pro or College or all three?
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She has dreams of going pro one day. But in order for her to get there she will need to keep working hard, growing and conquering the obstacles that she will face to get there. I’m doing my part now but she will have to do it on her own later when she gets a little older. That will be up to her later. How much does she really want it will determine how far she wants to get. She has the physical attributes to be a great player one day but it’s up to her later to reach her full potential.
 
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