Player Development vs Super Team Chasing?

Luis Andres said:
@Justus the one thing that I’m curious about is why the coach of the team allowed this parent to go over his authority during games and instruct all the girls on what to do? I’ve seen many coaches joy stick teams and I’m ok with that if it needs to happen at times. I know it’s the coach’s job to put him in his place. As far as I’m concern if I have an issue with the coach and his direction with the team and progress I talk to him 1 on 1. Which to me that’s fine and the right way to go about it.
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Great questions Luis. Louis the dad coach did all his coaching from our side and our coach was far, far away and was overwhelmed in life I think with three kids and being a single mom. Were talking 7 and 8 years old, right? I didn't have 1 on 1 talks with coaches and I don't remember the joy sticking. I only remember Louis telling everyone where to go. He didn't start yelling until the big Governors tournament at State Cup that he thought we had a chance to advance in.
 
Luis Andres said:
There you go @Fact go check your last 160 posts. You gonna need to open up your wallet now and pay your dues to Dominic to get rid of all the dumb ratings. I don’t mess with you but if you want war. It’s on
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The fact that you give a damn about ratings proves my point that you are a complete dbag. Finish 93 posts of mine to rate as dumb, go for it loser but shouldn’t you be using that time to bag on 8 year olds. LOL

I just signed in cause I figured out the difference btw you and @Justus. EJ is upset because he sees the inherent unfairness in the system and wants a level playing field for every kiddo. He just cannot accept that life is unfair and sometimes takes his anger out on innocent parents. He has his heart in the right place thou l.

You on the other hand think it is unfair that your child prodigy has to waste her time with kiddos beneath your standard. You spend all your time on this board in an attempt justify bullying 8
year old little girls. You’ll never learn cause your vindictive as proved by hunting down 93 of my posts, a person you don’t even know. I live in your head. LOL
 
Ok so I think all of you are overthinking this thread. Every kiddo is different. Some kids are happy to make an Allstate team with their friends and ride the pine. Others will be discouraged and quit if they are not the center of the team.

I always tried to find a team were my kiddos were starters but not the best player on the team. This way they could grow with the better players yet retain a level of self esteem. Of course, this was not always possible because you also have to take into consideration the club, coach and other players/parents, plus distance you’re willing to travel and training schedules that work for your family; not an easy thing to juggle for most families.

If I had the chance to do it over, I would mix it up for my kiddos. Now there are so many more options like Futsal. I would probably have a mix of teams and levels for my kiddos. Maybe a Futsal team where they are one of the better players, maybe indoor with school friends and maybe a club team where they are the 8-10th player. Of course like I said above it depends on the kiddo and this also changes with age. One of my ds grew more from playing with his friends on a middle of the road team during his younger years. We had tried playing him on his older brother’s team where he was good enough to start but he shut down since none of the boys were his friends.

So I guess I am saying, take cues from your child.
 
I should add congrats @Night Owl. I could not have said it better myself. It takes a special person to navigate the political Soccer land mines and come out on the other end intact. Wishing your son the best in D1. Please keep us updated, not enough parent of boys on the college thread.
 
Luis Andres said:
Ok so it just happened during state cup not throughout the regular season. So it was a one time event I’m assuming? Interesting, so the coach was a female. Maybe she was intimidated by him? That’s what I would think. I understand she may have been overwhelmed by her own personal life but that is no excuse for her to let it happen and not confront him. My two cents. So he was the only one that thought you guys had a chance to advance in the tournament interesting. So what happened after that incident when you saw him again at team practice?
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Season was over bro and never saw Louis ever again. I hear his dd is a great player so I'm sure his coaching helped her get better :) Female coach was awesome btw and she deserved the gift we got her. Maybe she knew he was a whacko on meth and just wanted to get through the season alive. We went to heaven with JH for two years. She teaches the young girls to have fun, parties, dances, movies nights, scavenger hunts and yes, win or lose as a team :)
 
I’m to lazy and don’t care enough to look back to post 1. But what is this thread about again. Now back to my beer. Tonight I’m enjoying a Bells Two Hearted Ale. Yum.
 
Luis Andres said:
Player development vs super team chasing. Which path and why? User describing why the player development path would develop your child better than the so called super teams that are supposedly just about wins and no development. The status Quo of what most people liked. Post got 10 likes.

Next me coming in and questioning what one may mean by “player development” since it’s being so loosely thrown around as a marketing hype word. Wrote a post that caught the attention of some users that agreed it challenged the status Quo of what most had already agreed on. He even busted out the bowling shoes for me to bowl the strike. Then you came in with sandals instead for me to wear. Funny stuff. Then comes fact and it turns into a back and forth argument with drama. End of page 2 beginning of 3
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I should have asked you how old your baby goat is?
 
Luis Andres said:
Player development vs super team chasing. Which path and why? User describing why the player development path would develop your child better than the so called super teams that are supposedly just about wins and no development. The status Quo of what most people liked. Post got 10 likes.

Next me coming in and questioning what one may mean by “player development” since it’s being so loosely thrown around as a marketing hype word. Wrote a post that caught the attention of some users that agreed it challenged the status Quo of what most had already agreed on. He even busted out the bowling shoes for me to bowl the strike. Then you came in with sandals instead for me to wear. Funny stuff. Then comes fact and it turns into a back and forth argument with drama. End of page 2 beginning of 3
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Yes, I recall now. Thanks for the summary. Proceed with the dual.
 
Luis Andres said:
No that was the camera man who caught the goal on his phone and was thanking him for it on post.
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So Luis, I first want to say your dd is a great player. She likes to pass which is not always happening at this age and it's obvious you have a deep passion for the game to be played the right way. OLE is where? Has she (you) been approached to go to DA Girls Club yet?
 
Luis Andres said:
Ole yes they have a great development program for the young ages but they don’t usually keep teams past u11. 9 years old is still too young for DA. However she has been scouted at tournaments by big clubs that have taken our information and that have a DA program. When the time is right to move on from the club we will look at the options and talk to the clubs that have expressed interest in her and see if DA is the right option for her. To be honest I wouldn’t mind her playing with boys either if that makes sense at the time. To me some of the top boys teams I’ve seen play much better possession soccer than girl teams do.
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It would be interesting to hear the recruiting stories you come across from the DA clubs. Anyone offer Full Ride yet? I only say that because I see your baby goat with higher than average talent at the U10 level. Reminds me OM who is Pro now at 14. Is OLE in LA? I tried to get my dd to dream about playing on a boys team when she was 10. My dd flat out said no and told me to my face to get rid of that crazy idea now!!!! Lastly, my dd went the possession soccer route for two years and it was fun but when we played fast, physical and strong opponents the possession broke down and we had to fight for survival. The point I'm making is after the pre-teen and HS years, the college game will bite many of the players parents in the buttocks who think fast, physical and strong is not important anymore and only learning the true tactical, developmental part of the soccer game is what matters now. Let me to you Luis, I watched many games in college this year and if you don't care about bringing Ganas to the game, you will lose and wonder what the hell is happening. These girls at AZ, Pep, WA, Fullerton, Long Beach St, UCI have a fire that is missing at my beloved UCLA. Good luck Luis on this journey. Be careful out there and If I can be of any service, please don't hesitate to PM.
 
Luis Andres said:
The great part about the current team and group of girls she plays with is that ganas is what they are all about. To be honest I haven’t gotten into too much details with clubs that have tried recruited her but to say I will get back to them when the time is right and yes there have been offers for free tuition but to me it’s not about the money savings or getting a free ride. It’s where she will develop best at the current moment. If the game needs to get physical these girls are ready for the task. The system they implement is known for their high pressure defense and they shut down the possession soccer of the big teams forcing them to make mistakes and resort to playing kick ball. This team is probably one of the most physical and grittiest girls team when it comes to their defense.
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So OLE has no older teams?
 
Luis Andres said:
Finally I found a coach that knows what he’s talking about and that agrees with my logic regarding player development and team development. A coach that understands that possession soccer and winning are both important. A coach that is

https://343coaching.com/us/

http://blog.3four3.com/tag/development/

Just watch his U11 team play possession soccer. No wonder this video went viral.

Notice how these 10 year olds play possession soccer. Notice the player formations. All players are on the same page. All players are tactical and technical. And when they lose the ball they do what ever it takes to get the ball back right away. True Tiki Taka and the product of a coach that knows what he’s doing.
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Where is this video taken? How old is it? Didn't realize that 10 year olds were playing 11 v 11 on a full size field these days.
 
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