Surfref
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What I should have ended with was that I don't think it is healthy for any players to be playing multiple games in a day or 4-6 games over a weekend.
Play High School or Not?
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What I should have ended with was that I don't think it is healthy for any players to be playing multiple games in a day or 4-6 games over a weekend.
Multi Sport
DA
There are always teachers who don't care what your reason is. My DD had one in HS and did not allow her or two other teammates take a test they missed for.. HS soccer. I made a call and she was allowed to make up the test. The teachers excuse was that she is bipolar and was having a rough day.
But then you have the flip side. My kid sister ended up having the same Algebra 2 teacher that I did in HS, Mrs. Smith. I struggled big time to get a B . My sister? Well I guess the teacher must have remembered me so she told my sister that as long as she does all the homework that she would give her a C. The difference between my sister and I (besides 17 years) was she was a standout athlete who had led the school to two CIF Championships and was inline to get a D1 scholarship. Me.. I played Right Field and batted ninth.
Mrs. Smith also made my sister promise to never take Math again.
Not sure why everyone still has the misconception that DA players cannot play high school soccer. It was done quiet frequently when my ds was playing, even at public schools. Currently, I am hearing from friends that coach girls at private high schools that they have DA players and no they are not financially needy and are also still playing DA.
There are exceptions for private schools. http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq
Can Academy clubs participate in non-Academy competitions?
To maintain a focus on training, Academy teams do not play in any other leagues, tournaments, State Cup competitions, ODP or All-Star events without written permission from the U.S. Soccer Development Academy staff. Full-time Academy players can only participate on their designated Academy team, with only one exception: National Team duty. Development Academy players for all teams must choose to participate in the Academy full-time and forgo playing for his high school team.
Kicknit22
GOLD
It’s not a misconception. Yes, there are quite a few kids that are ditching out on DA come HS season, at the older/oldest age group. I suspect that, unless changes are made, this will continue to happen, year after year. Most girls will not give up thier senior year, whether DA exposure has helped them land their future school or not. JMO
Sheriff Joe
DA
That would explain many posters in these here parts.
Sheriff Joe
DA
For me, watching my daughter play high school is against non club kids makes you appreciate real training.
I wish it were only “against.” We have a mixed bag (JV) of maybe 4-5 kids that are flight 1/silver elite club players, 8. or so low to mid flight 2 and 7-8 flight 3/Rec players. There is talent but you can see the higher level players trying to pass the ball where the mid to lower level will either boot it or try to dribble through 3 defenders.
I love that my kid is playing high school soccer. Seems to re-energize a love of the game but my kid is missing the club team skill however. Some of the best comments on the way home are about bad passing and inability to shoot. At least it can be laughed off so far.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Funny, after complaining about club for months the first week of high school she said she misses club.
This policy seems to vary from club to club and coach to coach. There are definitely some clubs that have not allowed DA players to play high school
The rule is by US Soccer. Once you play a match for a high school team you are ineligible for DA the rest of the year unless you are a part time player. My HS team has already played against 4 DA players, one of which was in FL for the showcase. With the others no idea if they are planning to go back to DA after the HS season, but it's not like we are going to tell on them so I would bet for most clubs it's a don't ask don't tell policy.
Not ditching DA. Played in Florida and plan to play DA in January. I guess it is a don’t ask don’t tell policy. At least it keeps the quality of high school up a little better. I just feel sorry for the families/clubs that are following the rules.
Last year it was a little different because it was the first year of DA for girls. Girls that had previously played high school were grandfathered in by US Soccer if their club allowed them to play.
I admit the FAQ does not fully set forth the rule. The rule is here: https://ussoccer.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju. See, Article III, Section F, Paragraph 4 discussing the procedure for Academy players playing for HS teams. The answer is basically, the player must prove to US Soccer that playing HS Soccer is a fundamental part of their enrollment criteria at the private school.
4. Academy Players currently registered with an DA Club have committed to forgo participating in both the Academy and high school or middle school soccer.
a) Players who participate in high/middle school soccer are ineligible to participate in Academy practice and competition during that same season.
b) Only players who have been granted a waiver by the League Office will be allowed to remain on their clubs Academy roster during the high school soccer season (waivers are not available for middle school). This waiver must be received by DA office before September 1, 2018, to be considered for the roster exemption. The waiver eligibility guidelines are as follows:
b) Only players who have been granted a waiver by the League Office will be allowed to remain on their clubs Academy roster during the high school soccer season (waivers are not available for middle school). This waiver must be received by DA office before September 1, 2018, to be considered for the roster exemption. The waiver eligibility guidelines are as follows:
(1) Players who receive consideration or financial aid to attend a private high school based on their participation with the soccer team are eligible
(2) Although clubs are not limited to a specific number of waivers, the number is naturally self-limiting to field a full team throughout the Academy season.
(3) Players registered with a Development DA Club will not be allowed to reenter the program during the same season after participating in the high school season with their current or a different DA Club.
c) The waiver must include the following points:(2) Although clubs are not limited to a specific number of waivers, the number is naturally self-limiting to field a full team throughout the Academy season.
(3) Players registered with a Development DA Club will not be allowed to reenter the program during the same season after participating in the high school season with their current or a different DA Club.
(1) Addressed to Academy Program from the Principal, Head Master or similar position
(2) Player name and high school
(3) States the player is expected to participate in high school soccer as part of their enrollment at this school and subsidized education
(4) States the term, semester and/or dates in which the player will be participating in high school soccer
(5) Signed and dated
(6) Sent to Academy Office for approval prior to the start of the high school season
(2) Player name and high school
(3) States the player is expected to participate in high school soccer as part of their enrollment at this school and subsidized education
(4) States the term, semester and/or dates in which the player will be participating in high school soccer
(5) Signed and dated
(6) Sent to Academy Office for approval prior to the start of the high school season
TangoCity
GOLD
Yes. It would be a great way for the bench players to get more playing time on their often crowded rosters and limited substitution rules.
End of the Line
SILVER ELITE
I'd like to know how USSF explains that it isn't fraud to induce players to participate in the GDA by promising that any kid in HS in 2017-18 would be able to play HS throughout the rest of their HS career without affecting their GDA status, only t0 change that rule after people have relied on it to change clubs and leagues? The DA's own website still shows USSF made this promise when it formed GDA.
That's one way to beat your competitor. Steal its customers by lying to them about your product or service.
Is girls high school soccer generally more attractive soccer than boys high school? This is a very small sample size, but I went to the local high school boys game, and it was major kickball from both teams, not once was it played out the back. I'm not sure there ever was more than 3 consecutive passes connected. (it should be noted that the HS has historically been a very good soccer school, with a few CIF championships with their current coach, although they were some time ago). The following day I went to a HS girls game and the quality of the soccer by both teams was significantly better...crisp, multiple connected passes, few goalie punts, buildup etc.
My son is a few years away from having to potentially choose DA or HS and a lot can happen between now and then so I'm not worried about it. However, if he was having to make the decision now I'd probably encourage him to stay in DA.
My son is a few years away from having to potentially choose DA or HS and a lot can happen between now and then so I'm not worried about it. However, if he was having to make the decision now I'd probably encourage him to stay in DA.