Parents from certain teams

LASTMAN14 said:
It did cross over to their sidelines. They directed all their attention to the ref at that time and after the game. One of the other coaches on the bench was also warned a few minutes later. Not sure anything will be done as this was a Surf affiliate from a small Pacific island.
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What was the final score? Schedule doesn't have it posted.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
It did cross over to their sidelines. They directed all their attention to the ref at that time and after the game. One of the other coaches on the bench was also warned a few minutes later. Not sure anything will be done as this was a Surf affiliate from a small Pacific island.
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Now that is unusual. I have NEVER had any problems with coaches, spectators or players from Hawaii. They have always been polite and respectful of the referees. Or was that new Pacific Island Surf affiliate, Surf Guam?
 
How can a parent get a red card? I thought those were only for players, whereas coaches and players are sent away.

Your friend was right to be disgusted. Parents need to STFU and watch the game.
 
I think I have a solution.
I hear so much misinformation from parents while watching games. They don't know the rules. They chirp silly stuff all game long at their team and the opponents.
I think that whoever puts on a tournament should have someone combing the sidelines in a bright orange (could be any color really) shirt. Whenever these people hear a parent saying something that is incorrect- they politely walk over and correct them. They provide some education on the laws of the game. Maybe even hand out the latest "Laws of the Game" booklet.
 
Surfref said:
Now that is unusual. I have NEVER had any problems with coaches, spectators or players from Hawaii. They have always been polite and respectful of the referees. Or was that new Pacific Island Surf affiliate, Surf Guam?
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In truth the parents didn’t get riled till their coach was kicked out. The team was at it the whole game.
 
they need to put parents on same side as their coach that will solve alot, two they really need to sit parent back another 5ft. Alot of parent sit about 2-3 ft from sideline, actually I might be wrong by placing them farther away they just might yell louder.
Question below :
  • Who's louder parents --- Dads or Moms? this weekend was def the women, love ya girls but zip it! the best is physical plays its never on them but once someone checks back, all hell breaks loose.....
  • Who's louder---Winning teams or losing teams? this weekend alot of bit%$'n from losing teams parents , alot.....the teams from Los Angeles area tend to be alittle over the top.
 
Surfref said:
Now that is unusual. I have NEVER had any problems with coaches, spectators or players from Hawaii. They have always been polite and respectful of the referees. Or was that new Pacific Island Surf affiliate, Surf Guam?
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The only team we had problems with all weekend were also the affiliate from a small pacific island. It was also on Monday, where tensions do seem to run higher. The coaches and parents rode the ref the entire game and were incredibly rude and obnoxious, including yelling at and trying to intimidate the girls on the other team. The parents multiple times asked our parents to go meet them in the parking lot to "settle things." It was pretty bad. They did give all the glory to God at the medal ceremony, but my hunch is that God wasn't entirely pleased with being associated with their behavior. From my experience with their older teams, that behavior is typical with that particular club.

Other than that one team, I thought the parents and coaches we played all weekend were class acts.
 
Surfref said:
Now that is unusual. I have NEVER had any problems with coaches, spectators or players from Hawaii. They have always been polite and respectful of the referees. Or was that new Pacific Island Surf affiliate, Surf Guam?
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my experience also. in fact, one year they brought little gifts for everyone and even gave it to the referees. after the game of course.....
 
That Hawaiian team played super aggressive but I just guess that’s their style.. luckily for my daughters team they where able to adjust and come out with a 0-0 tie.. and to be honest it was getting bad but i didn’t heard any thing from that team side towards the refs..
 
timbuck said:
I think I have a solution.
I hear so much misinformation from parents while watching games. They don't know the rules. They chirp silly stuff all game long at their team and the opponents.
I think that whoever puts on a tournament should have someone combing the sidelines in a bright orange (could be any color really) shirt. Whenever these people hear a parent saying something that is incorrect- they politely walk over and correct them. They provide some education on the laws of the game. Maybe even hand out the latest "Laws of the Game" booklet.
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you would need lots of orange shirts.....
 
outside! said:
How can a parent get a red card? I thought those were only for players, whereas coaches and players are sent away.

Your friend was right to be disgusted. Parents need to STFU and watch the game.
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some tournaments and gaming circuits ask us to use cards on coaches and parents. I would rather not, but i just do what i'm told. i don't think surf cup uses that though.
 
coachrefparent said:
A friend told me two Surf parents (his kid's team) were given red cards. He was disgusted.
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When a parent is kicked out, they should be required to show ID and a log should be kept by CalSouth. A repeat offender should be banned for life from games.

My dd wanted to ref games when she turned 16 to pay for her car insurance. I never felt comfortable letting her unless I knew she would be working with one of my friends. The game needs to be given back to the kids. These parents that yell at refs are just sad.
 
I know a young woman that started reffing fairly young. Her dad told me a story about going to see her first game as a CR. One of the coaches was getting mouthy and then the dad got into it with the coach. She sent them both to the parking lot. I think VERY highly of her.
 
Fact said:
When a parent is kicked out, they should be required to show ID and a log should be kept by CalSouth. A repeat offender should be banned for life from games.

My dd wanted to ref games when she turned 16 to pay for her car insurance. I never felt comfortable letting her unless I knew she would be working with one of my friends. The game needs to be given back to the kids. These parents that yell at refs are just sad.
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Your daughter will be fine as a 16 year old referee. Cal South has empowered the referees to not take any BS from the spectators. There are no warnings to parents when it comes to a youth referee being yelled at. If she was an AR on one of my games and a parent yelled at her, I would have the coach remove that parent from the sideline. It amazes me that some parents would never yell at a 16 y/o player on the opposing team, but think it is okay to yell at a youth referee. Any adult referee that does not protect a youth referee should have their badge taken from them and not allowed to referee.
 
timbuck said:
I think I have a solution.
I hear so much misinformation from parents while watching games. They don't know the rules. They chirp silly stuff all game long at their team and the opponents.
I think that whoever puts on a tournament should have someone combing the sidelines in a bright orange (could be any color really) shirt. Whenever these people hear a parent saying something that is incorrect- they politely walk over and correct them. They provide some education on the laws of the game. Maybe even hand out the latest "Laws of the Game" booklet.
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Early in my reffing career I considered making flash cards with answers to common gripes. Things like what is a hand ball, Snell's Law, and that birds eye view picture that shows exactly what it means for the whole ball to be over the whole line. Then I realized as I got to ref teams with more informed parents that more information doesn't stop the griping. It just gives them more ammo and adds more confusion. Either that or I learned to stop caring, hard to tell really, It's like trying to stop the Titanic from sinking with duct tape.
 
46n2 said:
they need to put parents on same side as their coach that will solve alot, two they really need to sit parent back another 5ft. Alot of parent sit about 2-3 ft from sideline, actually I might be wrong by placing them farther away they just might yell louder.
Question below :
  • Who's louder parents --- Dads or Moms? this weekend was def the women, love ya girls but zip it! the best is physical plays its never on them but once someone checks back, all hell breaks loose.....
  • Who's louder---Winning teams or losing teams? this weekend alot of bit%$'n from losing teams parents , alot.....the teams from Los Angeles area tend to be alittle over the top.
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Parents are better off far away from their coach imo. They are like his parrots/minions that he sets loose on the referee with little accountability. Without their coach they are like lost puppies with no direction. They yell things, but aren't that sure about it, but if they have a coach backing up their hunches, they might as well been sent on a mission from God.

The only people mad about having to be on the same sideline with the other parents are the parents. Which suits me.

As for your borderline sexist/racist questions...lol.
 
focomoso said:
I'm familiar with Snell's law in physics, but what's its relation to soccer?
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Damn, mixed up my sciences in my head. Been too long. I meant to refer to Gestalt's laws of perception especially in regards to offside. Or I could have said "basic geometry". The idea that you only need to be off by a even a few degrees to trick your mind into thinking what you are perceiving is true when it in fact, isn't.
 
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