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[espola]

And they didnt use tempest computers genius, they used private emails from private computers. Remember huma abedins laptop was seized, I bet former pedophile Democrat congressman wiener got really nervous.

You're babbling.

 

[MSK357]

You're babbling.

You're deflecting lol

 

[MSK357]

Walls are protection for a room, not for a piece of equipment such as a server unless the equipment is stored in that room. In my various places of employment, I worked in at least 6 different screened rooms of variable quality and levels of certification. I also worked on and with equipment that was constructed so that it didn't require any additional screening.

This just shows you're outdated. New requirements.

 

[espola]

This just shows you're outdated. New requirements.

Such as?

 

[MSK357]

ICD 705. But let's stop deflecting. You talked about tempest certified computers. They used private computers and emails. The issue was the storage of classified information in her home instead of an authorized location that meets ICD 705 requirements. Bottom line is she showed more than extreme carelessness that director comey said, it's actually negligence because she should know it's wrong. You get briefed on these things at least once a year. And with her level of clearance and the number of years shes had it even as a senator, she should have known better. Any other person would have their clearance taken away and she wouldn't be fit to lead as president in that position.

 

[espola]

ICD 705. But let's stop deflecting. You talked about tempest certified computers. They used private computers and emails. The issue was the storage of classified information in her home instead of an authorized location that meets ICD 705 requirements. Bottom line is she showed more than extreme carelessness that director comey said, it's actually negligence because she should know it's wrong. You get briefed on these things at least once a year. And with her level of clearance and the number of years shes had it even as a senator, she should have known better. Any other person would have their clearance taken away and she wouldn't be fit to lead as president in that position.

I agreed with most of that in 2016, as I announced here (or, actually, in one of the former incarnations of this forum).

ICD 705 deals with SCIFs. Hillary had one in her DC home when she was SOS.

I brought up Tempest computers because you said you worked in the field. I wanted you to know that I did, too.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

So you believe sanctions are helping Russia? Whether its deep cutting or not, Trump has been putting sanction after sanction on Russia. tell me where he has helped Russia and maybe you might have a good argument.

Helped Russia? Off the top of my head . . . You mean like trying to weaken the UN? Holding back military assistance to the Ukraine? Siding with them over our intelligence agencies? Taking holds off of bank accounts of oligarchs close to Putin? Stopping the justice department's investigations into those same oligarchs and known Russian crime syndicates? Pulling out of northern Syria?

Putin’s Payout: 12 Ways Trump has Supported Putin’s Foreign Policy Agenda - The Moscow Project

In May 2017, the FBI formally opened a counterintelligence investigation into the President of the United States to determine whether he had been working on behalf of the Russian government, according to The New York Times. The inquiry into the President was formally folded into the Special...

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37 times Trump was soft on Russia | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump has an Achilles' heel when it comes to Russia. Over the years, he's made no secret that he has a soft spot for the country and its authoritarian leader, President Vladimir Putin. Here's a breakdown of 37 occasions when Trump was soft on Russia or gave Putin a boost.

www.cnn.com

 

[MSK357]

I agreed with most of that in 2016, as I announced here (or, actually, in one of the former incarnations of this forum).

ICD 705 deals with SCIFs. Hillary had one in her DC home when she was SOS.

I brought up Tempest computers because you said you worked in the field. I wanted you to know that I did, too.

I dont doubt you worked in the field, not sure where you heard she had a scif in her DC home, but from facts it doesnt seem like this was in a scif. This was a private server, on private computers, using private emails. Your defence of Hillary and what might have happened doesnt align with the facts in this case. That's all I'm saying. A normal person would at the very least lose their clearance for what she did.

 

[messy]

Doesn't find any? Why are all those people in jail?

Yeah there’s that.
And he had to come out and correct the Attorney General’s “summary.”
And he specifically said Trump was not exonerated on the obstruction issue.

 

[espola]

Helped Russia? Off the top of my head . . . You mean like trying to weaken the UN? Holding back military assistance to the Ukraine? Siding with them over our intelligence agencies? Taking holds off of bank accounts of oligarchs close to Putin? Stopping the justice department's investigations into those same oligarchs and known Russian crime syndicates? Pulling out of northern Syria?

Putin’s Payout: 12 Ways Trump has Supported Putin’s Foreign Policy Agenda - The Moscow Project

In May 2017, the FBI formally opened a counterintelligence investigation into the President of the United States to determine whether he had been working on behalf of the Russian government, according to The New York Times. The inquiry into the President was formally folded into the Special...

themoscowproject.org

37 times Trump was soft on Russia | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump has an Achilles' heel when it comes to Russia. Over the years, he's made no secret that he has a soft spot for the country and its authoritarian leader, President Vladimir Putin. Here's a breakdown of 37 occasions when Trump was soft on Russia or gave Putin a boost.

www.cnn.com

I think when you wrote "weakened UN" you should have included "and NATO".

 

[messy]

Not for collusion. They are in jail for Tax evasion, and perjury. completely unrelated to what the investigation was supposed to find.

Yeah they all just lied about Russia. And went to jail (or are on their way).
Go figure...

Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn lied about his contacts with Russia’s ambassador to the United States.
Former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos lied about the date on which a professor in London told him that Russia possessed “dirt” on Hillary Clinton.
Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, falsely told Congress that negotiations over a proposed Trump Tower project in Moscow had ended in January of 2016, when the negotiations in fact continued at least until June of 2016.
Former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort and his associate Rick Gates lied on Justice Department forms to conceal the true nature of a 2013 lobbying trip to Washington on behalf of Ukrainian government officials, to try to avoid having to register as agents of a foreign government.
Mr. Manafort has also been accused of violating his cooperation agreement with special counsel Robert Mueller by lying about his contacts with a former associate in Ukraine with alleged ties to Russian intelligence. The deception reportedly included whether Manafort had shared election polling data with the former associate.
Most recently, longtime Trump ally and Republican political operative Roger Stone was indicted on charges of lying to Congress about his attempts to discover the full scope of WikiLeaks’ 2016 campaign to publicize emails allegedly hacked from the Democratic National Committee by Russian intelligence officers.

 

[messy]

And Obama was actually caught on a hot mic and video telling Dmitry Medvedev that he would be more flexible after his re-election. Medvedev said he would relay that to Putin. So whos colluding with who?

Yeah, remember when Fuhrman said the “N” word?
And they thought OJ was on trial?
They were so wrong and you’re right!

 

[espola]

I dont doubt you worked in the field, not sure where you heard she had a scif in her DC home, but from facts it doesnt seem like this was in a scif. This was a private server, on private computers, using private emails. Your defence of Hillary and what might have happened doesnt align with the facts in this case. That's all I'm saying. A normal person would at the very least lose their clearance for what she did.

That's what I said when I first heard about it, If I checked out a classified document, I had to keep it in my direct sight at all times. Taking a classified document out of the building or transmitting it by email or other means is a crime.

So why weren't Goetz and his buddies arrested when they broke into one of the Capitol SCIFs during a closed hearing with their cellphones in the hands and/or pockets?

 

[espola]

Yeah, remember when Fuhrman said the “N” word?
And they thought OJ was on trial?
They were so wrong and you’re right!

It wasn't just that Fuhrman was a documented racist with a particular dislike of black men who married white women. It was also documented that he had unmonitored access to the scene of the crime and some of the evidence presented at the trial.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

I think when you wrote "weakened UN" you should have included "and NATO".

Yep, my bad, thanks for the correction.

 

[messy]

It wasn't just that Fuhrman was a documented racist with a particular dislike of black men who married white women. It was also documented that he had unmonitored access to the scene of the crime and some of the evidence presented at the trial.

He was on trial when we thought is was OJ.
Here we think it’s Trump when it’s really Biden.
Jonnie Cochran and Donald Trump...good psychologists.

 

[MSK357]

Helped Russia? Off the top of my head . . . You mean like trying to weaken the UN? Holding back military assistance to the Ukraine? Siding with them over our intelligence agencies? Taking holds off of bank accounts of oligarchs close to Putin? Stopping the justice department's investigations into those same oligarchs and known Russian crime syndicates? Pulling out of northern Syria?

Putin’s Payout: 12 Ways Trump has Supported Putin’s Foreign Policy Agenda - The Moscow Project

In May 2017, the FBI formally opened a counterintelligence investigation into the President of the United States to determine whether he had been working on behalf of the Russian government, according to The New York Times. The inquiry into the President was formally folded into the Special...

themoscowproject.org

37 times Trump was soft on Russia | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump has an Achilles' heel when it comes to Russia. Over the years, he's made no secret that he has a soft spot for the country and its authoritarian leader, President Vladimir Putin. Here's a breakdown of 37 occasions when Trump was soft on Russia or gave Putin a boost.

www.cnn.com

No proof of collusion. When the the 1st of 25 reasons trump is soft on russia is that he said nice things about Putin I stop reading. Tell me when the collusion starts because the entire country has been waiting. Instead of passing legislation the democrats in congress want to waste tax dollars on impeachment. This whole impeachment was a sham, and now they want to stall it going to the senate until it gets closer to the elections. Sad.

 

[MSK357]

Yeah there’s that.
And he had to come out and correct the Attorney General’s “summary.”
And he specifically said Trump was not exonerated on the obstruction issue.

Obstruction from no collusion lol that's like saying I'm stopping you from finding out I didnt commit murder. What a big waste of time.

 

[MSK357]

Yeah they all just lied about Russia. And went to jail (or are on their way).
Go figure...

Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn lied about his contacts with Russia’s ambassador to the United States.
Former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos lied about the date on which a professor in London told him that Russia possessed “dirt” on Hillary Clinton.
Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, falsely told Congress that negotiations over a proposed Trump Tower project in Moscow had ended in January of 2016, when the negotiations in fact continued at least until June of 2016.
Former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort and his associate Rick Gates lied on Justice Department forms to conceal the true nature of a 2013 lobbying trip to Washington on behalf of Ukrainian government officials, to try to avoid having to register as agents of a foreign government.
Mr. Manafort has also been accused of violating his cooperation agreement with special counsel Robert Mueller by lying about his contacts with a former associate in Ukraine with alleged ties to Russian intelligence. The deception reportedly included whether Manafort had shared election polling data with the former associate.
Most recently, longtime Trump ally and Republican political operative Roger Stone was indicted on charges of lying to Congress about his attempts to discover the full scope of WikiLeaks’ 2016 campaign to publicize emails allegedly hacked from the Democratic National Committee by Russian intelligence officers.

So where's the part trump colluding with russia to win the election?

 

[MSK357]

Yeah, remember when Fuhrman said the “N” word?
And they thought OJ was on trial?
They were so wrong and you’re right!

What are you talking about? Stay on topic. Obama is more guilty of colluding with Putin than trump is. Video evidence. But you dont care about facts.