Non devisive music thread.

KK summarized his acting effort in ASIB - ""I had a half-gallon of Jose Cuervo in my trailer and they never let it empty. They just kept coming back in and filling it up, same half-gallon bottle. I don't know how much I was drinking, but it was a lot, and I had to quit it soon after.."
I hope he got help for his drinking problem.
 
For me personally, to win a Golden Globe... would likely be the pinnacle of my career.
That said, in the bigger picture of art you have to differentiate between "Pop Art" (I.e. what your peers think is important right now) and "Great Art."

Even if Husker says he doesn't like KK, he obviously knows who he is and could name some of his songs. So I think we all agree that he's achieved Pop Art Fame. Yet that says nothing about if KK is worthy of Great Art Fame; where people will still know his name in 500 years like Homer or Shakespeare. And none of us in here reading this are going to live long enough to see that question answered.

But to be honest, on the Great Art question I'm probably with Husker with regard to Kristofferson and doubt his work will stand the test of time and anyone who doesn't get it is a dope. He's written some great songs and seems like a person other people like being around. But he's far from the end all be all.
Duck knows more about KK now than he did when he started blathering...
His songs will stand up over time, cause artists continue to sing them and have hits with them.
 
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Where did that quote come from? Making shit up like an atypical deep fever swamp nutter? I guess when you got nothing else . . . good luck going down the little rabbit hole you've created for yourself.
Once again your comprehension comes into question Duck...
From my post that you go off babbling about nutters, see where I say "you should just say"...
I'm using your logic and something you would say, not something you did say
You should just say...
"If you overlook the fact that he's in two song writing all's of fame and has a Golden Globe Award for best actor, I think he's over rated."
Kinda like not knowing he's a Rhodes Scholar, while saying he's not the brightest guy around.
 
I agree with Kristofferson's politics. I see him as stiff and laboring as an actor. When I see him onstage with The Highwaymen he seems the weak link (again JMHO). He has a way with words, is well traveled and deserves respect for his views . . . just no fan of his delivery, on stage or on screen. We do all have a right to our opinions right? Of course when taken out of context or when false quotes are attributed that's not actually my opinion, just the ramblings of a butt-hurt buffoon. Does LE really think no one notices?
Finally three or four chances into it, you make a reasonable, well articulated post.
You used to post like this often, now you rarely do it. Why?
To busy running around like an f'n duck?
 
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Duck knows more about KK know than he did when he started blathering...
His songs will stand up over time, cause artists continue to sing them and have hits with them.
Never disparaged his song writing. He can't act and his singing is suspect, IMHO. Tomato, tomotoe . . . some say Andy Warhol was a genius, I don't see that either.
 
Funny how some can take a thread like this and turn it into something else. The thread reads "Non Divisive Music" and some how an F Trump song is posted. Well done Rat...
 
Funny how some can take a thread like this and turn it into something else. The thread reads "Non Divisive Music" and some how an F Trump song is posted. Well done Rat...

Oh I probably made it worse....But someone needs
to " Blacken " his I's.....

His comment about my choices is a DEEP window into
his insecurities .....Damn Guy is probably a closet Racist....
I've found that the ones who bark the loudest on this subject
are usually the MOST insecure....!
 
Seeing Ice T getting love from the nutters made me start thinking about the weird connection between rap music iconography and conservative politics. Yes in a lot of way LA Gangster Rap spoke to an in your face brand of black power, but it also speaks to a world that I think a lot of conservatives would know.

Like Sheriff Joe and the Geto Boys; paranoia, illusions of grandeur, they could be best friends.
 
Seeing Ice T getting love from the nutters made me start thinking about the weird connection between rap music iconography and conservative politics. Yes in a lot of way LA Gangster Rap spoke to an in your face brand of black power, but it also speaks to a world that I think a lot of conservatives would know.

Like Sheriff Joe and the Geto Boys; paranoia, illusions of grandeur, they could be best friends.
If you listened to the Ice T interview it was clearly pro gun, but not for the right reasons at all, he is a lib, no doubt about it.
 
Tuesday, April 7, 2009
First off, we hate Toby Keith. The jingoistic country star made a fortune on pro-war lyrics about putting a boot up your ass because "it's the American way." And his music sucks. So we were delighted to hear that an outlaw country singer thirty years his senior gave the stupid putz a schoolin.' That old guy would be Kris Kristofferson, a country boy himself, who also happens to be a Rhodes scholar and a Ranger who flew helicopters for the Army--and a liberal to boot!


Kris Kristofferson, early in his career

Ethan Hawke, a lifelong Kristofferson fan, wrote a great profile of Kristofferson in Rolling Stone which opens with details of a backstage showdown with Toby Keith at Willie Nelson's 2003 birthday concert at Madison Square Garden. Hawke doesn't identify Keith by name, but he makes his identity pretty clear. "At that moment in time, the Star had a monster radio hit about bombing America's enemies back into the Stone Age."

Toby Keith performing "in costume"

"Up from the basement came one of country music's biggest stars (who shall remain nameless)," writes Hawke, who reports the unnamed star told Kristofferson not to perform "any of that lefty shit out there tonight."

"What the (blank) did you say to me?," Kris growled, stepping forward. "Oh, no," groaned Willie under his breath. "Don't get Kris all riled up."

"You heard me," said Keith.

"Don't turn your back on me, boy," Kristofferson shouted. "You ever wear your country's uniform?" Kris asked rhetorically.

"What?"

"Don't 'what' me, boy! You heard the question. You just don't like the answer." According to Hawke, Kris paused just long enough to get a full chest of air. "I asked, 'Have you ever served your country?' The answer is no, you have not. Have you ever killed another man? Huh? Have you ever taken another man's life and then cashed the check your country gave you for doing it? No, you have not. So shut the (blank) up! You don't know what the (blank) you're talking about!"
 
Tuesday, April 7, 2009
First off, we hate Toby Keith. The jingoistic country star made a fortune on pro-war lyrics about putting a boot up your ass because "it's the American way." And his music sucks. So we were delighted to hear that an outlaw country singer thirty years his senior gave the stupid putz a schoolin.' That old guy would be Kris Kristofferson, a country boy himself, who also happens to be a Rhodes scholar and a Ranger who flew helicopters for the Army--and a liberal to boot!


Kris Kristofferson, early in his career

Ethan Hawke, a lifelong Kristofferson fan, wrote a great profile of Kristofferson in Rolling Stone which opens with details of a backstage showdown with Toby Keith at Willie Nelson's 2003 birthday concert at Madison Square Garden. Hawke doesn't identify Keith by name, but he makes his identity pretty clear. "At that moment in time, the Star had a monster radio hit about bombing America's enemies back into the Stone Age."

Toby Keith performing "in costume"

"Up from the basement came one of country music's biggest stars (who shall remain nameless)," writes Hawke, who reports the unnamed star told Kristofferson not to perform "any of that lefty shit out there tonight."

"What the (blank) did you say to me?," Kris growled, stepping forward. "Oh, no," groaned Willie under his breath. "Don't get Kris all riled up."

"You heard me," said Keith.

"Don't turn your back on me, boy," Kristofferson shouted. "You ever wear your country's uniform?" Kris asked rhetorically.

"What?"

"Don't 'what' me, boy! You heard the question. You just don't like the answer." According to Hawke, Kris paused just long enough to get a full chest of air. "I asked, 'Have you ever served your country?' The answer is no, you have not. Have you ever killed another man? Huh? Have you ever taken another man's life and then cashed the check your country gave you for doing it? No, you have not. So shut the (blank) up! You don't know what the (blank) you're talking about!"


Issues Rodent.....You have DEEP seated Issues....
 
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