Non devisive music thread.

Hüsker Dü said:
Tuesday, April 7, 2009
First off, we hate Toby Keith. The jingoistic country star made a fortune on pro-war lyrics about putting a boot up your ass because "it's the American way." And his music sucks. So we were delighted to hear that an outlaw country singer thirty years his senior gave the stupid putz a schoolin.' That old guy would be Kris Kristofferson, a country boy himself, who also happens to be a Rhodes scholar and a Ranger who flew helicopters for the Army--and a liberal to boot!


Kris Kristofferson, early in his career

Ethan Hawke, a lifelong Kristofferson fan, wrote a great profile of Kristofferson in Rolling Stone which opens with details of a backstage showdown with Toby Keith at Willie Nelson's 2003 birthday concert at Madison Square Garden. Hawke doesn't identify Keith by name, but he makes his identity pretty clear. "At that moment in time, the Star had a monster radio hit about bombing America's enemies back into the Stone Age."

Toby Keith performing "in costume"

"Up from the basement came one of country music's biggest stars (who shall remain nameless)," writes Hawke, who reports the unnamed star told Kristofferson not to perform "any of that lefty shit out there tonight."

"What the (blank) did you say to me?," Kris growled, stepping forward. "Oh, no," groaned Willie under his breath. "Don't get Kris all riled up."

"You heard me," said Keith.

"Don't turn your back on me, boy," Kristofferson shouted. "You ever wear your country's uniform?" Kris asked rhetorically.

"What?"

"Don't 'what' me, boy! You heard the question. You just don't like the answer." According to Hawke, Kris paused just long enough to get a full chest of air. "I asked, 'Have you ever served your country?' The answer is no, you have not. Have you ever killed another man? Huh? Have you ever taken another man's life and then cashed the check your country gave you for doing it? No, you have not. So shut the (blank) up! You don't know what the (blank) you're talking about!"
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I like Kristofferson, and I like Toby, partly because he's an Arky, and partly because he comes off as a regular working dude, and not some fluffy fart sniff'n creampuff.
I dont care what the politics of artists I listen to are.
I listen to them because I enjoy their music.

That said, I'm glad Toby respected his elder enough to restrain himself and not whoop the old man's ass.
 
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tenacious said:
Seeing Ice T getting love from the nutters made me start thinking about the weird connection between rap music iconography and conservative politics. Yes in a lot of way LA Gangster Rap spoke to an in your face brand of black power, but it also speaks to a world that I think a lot of conservatives would know.

Like Sheriff Joe and the Geto Boys; paranoia, illusions of grandeur, they could be best friends.
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Just post the song a leave the political bullshit on the front porch.
Thanks in advance.

ps, the song is real.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
I like Kristofferson, and I like Toby, partly because he's an Arky, and partly because he comes off as a regular working dude, and not some fluffy fart sniff'n creampuff.
I dont care what the politics of artists I listen to are.
I listen to them because I enjoy their music.

That said, I'm glad Toby respected his elder enough to restrain himself and not whoop the old man's ass.
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KK doesn't strike me as the type to fight fair, and he crafty... so in this case I'd put my money on the old man.
 
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