NEW ECNL CHAT

EOTL said:
Huh, ECNL is fully compliant with the tax laws. You’re the one who wants them to do something that tax laws do not require. You’re the one who needs to ask Congress to change them, because ECNL and I are perfectly happy the way they are. Cha Ching!

If the tax laws were such that non-profit status depended on whether a particular person believes a non-profit is doing what it wants, I’d argue that Beach FC and Legends should be stripped of their non-profit status because they aren’t serving the interests of elite youth soccer players nearly as successfully as the clubs in ECNL. Specifically, they couldn’t make their own awesome league but, rather, they stupidly chose to take shortcuts by joining GDA although I told everyone it was doomed.
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They did make their own awesome league. It’s called GA.

Best of all, GA can solve their travel problems by taking a page from the ECNL playbook and accepting lots of good, but not exceptional, clubs. Without head to head competition, parents won’t know the difference.

ECNL can tell a story about how they are the only top league in the country with top teams like Blues. GA can tell a story about how they are the real top league, with great teams like Top Hat. And we can all drive past each other on our way to our diluted “elite” games.

Thanks, Slammers. Thanks, Blues. Great system. Genius.
 
Giesbock said:
Someone needs to start a GA conversation. There are legitimate and well respected DOCs and clubs involved. Not to trifle with. Good luck to David vs. Goliath.
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"GAL" was a bad look and "GA" looks like it's a league for Tophat and all the teams from Georgia. I think the GA league has potential but the name has to go. "LOL" looks way better. Stands for, "Left out League." I wish we could all find a way to play each other. Enjoy the extra day off this weekend bro :)
 
Surf Zombie said:
www.change.org

Sign the Petition

Support Tophat To Be Accepted Back In ECNL! #ecnl4tophat #abouttheplayers_tophat
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Some of Top Hat’s players (parents?) petitioning to try to get ECNL.
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When Club leaders, board members, doc’s, lawyers, etc. come together to negotiate how to merge as a new league, is a multi-party contract signed?

I’m asking cause yes, my daughter is on an awesome GA club team, great coach who is working hard to keep the girls engaged, motivated and prepared for when they get back on the field.
That also means that if Tophat parents get their way and Ellejustus’ prayers come true that Beach and Legends goes over to ECNL, the prospects for a strong GA are severely diminished. That would be an incredible bummer. (Let the David league have a crack at Goliath league!)

So back to my question. Is there a contract in place that binds the GA together for the 2020-21 season? Or can teams come and go at will with no repercussions? Thanks.
 
Giesbock said:
When Club leaders, board members, doc’s, lawyers, etc. come together to negotiate how to merge as a new league, is a multi-party contract signed?

I’m asking cause yes, my daughter is on an awesome GA club team, great coach who is working hard to keep the girls engaged, motivated and prepared for when they get back on the field.
That also means that if Tophat parents get their way and Ellejustus’ prayers come true that Beach and Legends goes over to ECNL, the prospects for a strong GA are severely diminished. That would be an incredible bummer. (Let the David league have a crack at Goliath league!)

So back to my question. Is there a contract in place that binds the GA together for the 2020-21 season? Or can teams come and go at will with no repercussions? Thanks.
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I was praying for a few pals of mind bro and for the strongest teams to play one another for bragging rights. I petition Mr Lavers to allow the Top Hat and Beach and legends to the party for 2020-2021. This would bring unity to the ones that matter, the girls. Jump over to ECNL bro if you can. PM me, I have a few ideas...... Sorry about all this man. Its sucks for ALL the girls, it really does. I mean that 100%.
 
Giesbock said:
When Club leaders, board members, doc’s, lawyers, etc. come together to negotiate how to merge as a new league, is a multi-party contract signed?

I’m asking cause yes, my daughter is on an awesome GA club team, great coach who is working hard to keep the girls engaged, motivated and prepared for when they get back on the field.
That also means that if Tophat parents get their way and Ellejustus’ prayers come true that Beach and Legends goes over to ECNL, the prospects for a strong GA are severely diminished. That would be an incredible bummer. (Let the David league have a crack at Goliath league!)

So back to my question. Is there a contract in place that binds the GA together for the 2020-21 season? Or can teams come and go at will with no repercussions? Thanks.
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Beach and legends are not getting ecnl for 20-21 so we can shut that discussion down.
 
Giesbock said:
With due respect, SoccerGuru, if someone knows how these things work, I’d be interested in knowing before shutting this discussion down.
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My understanding is that the DOCs from the other clubs have to vote to allow clubs to be added to the Region. Its obvious that the DOCs don’t want to add Legends, Beach or Tophat. I can’t imagine a petition will or can change it.
 
A petition? Do people just think that by getting a bunch of signatures they can change what a company does with its business?
If the petition doesn’t work- Maybe we can start a go fund me page. Those seem to be popular now when someone needs help.
 
Honest question.....Why is Tophat positioning to be in ECNL? I thought GAL was the best thing since sliced bread. The best of the DA but add high school Soccer back in.
At least that’s what the DOCs are telling the parents at our local GAL clubs. And they “chose to not go to ECNL”.
 
Yellowcard said:
Honest question.....Why is Tophat positioning to be in ECNL? I thought GAL was the best thing since sliced bread. The best of the DA but add high school Soccer back in.
At least that’s what the DOCs are telling the parents at our local GAL clubs. And they “chose to not go to ECNL”.
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So Tasty!!!
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As long as ECNL is excluding great clubs, you will find great clubs in GA. GA might become weak if ECNL ever goes pro-rel, but don’t hold your breath for that.
 
dad4 said:
As long as ECNL is excluding great clubs, you will find great clubs in GA. GA might become weak if ECNL ever goes pro-rel, but don’t hold your breath for that.
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GAL has not even begun. It cannot 'become weak'. It does not even exist yet other than in people's minds. It has no central leadership headquarters (like ECNL or DA). It is a bunch of clubs trying to hold onto players by throwing together a league on a few days notice. The task they are taking on is enormous. Do not underestimate what they are walking into. A league is a mammoth task.
 
GT45 said:
GAL has not even begun. It cannot 'become weak'. It does not even exist yet other than in people's minds. It has no central leadership headquarters (like ECNL or DA). It is a bunch of clubs trying to hold onto players by throwing together a league on a few days notice. The task they are taking on is enormous. Do not underestimate what they are walking into. A league is a mammoth task.
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Mammoth task? Yeah, just count the thousands and thousands of local leagues that have folded over the years because no one could figure out how to use scheduling software. Remember when every little league team west of the Hudson folded because no one knew how to create a website?

Not buying it. Hard work? Sure. Needs to be done? Absolutely. Mammoth task? No way.

They will buy some scheduling software, create a schedule, and organize games. That’s a league. You don’t need a mansion in Chicago. You need games.
 
dad4 said:
Mammoth task? Yeah, just count the thousands and thousands of local leagues that have folded over the years because no one could figure out how to use scheduling software. Remember when every little league team west of the Hudson folded because no one knew how to create a website?

Not buying it. Hard work? Sure. Needs to be done? Absolutely. Mammoth task? No way.

They will buy some scheduling software, create a schedule, and organize games. That’s a league. You don’t need a mansion in Chicago. You need games.
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This is a National League, not a local one. There is no comparison. The nature of a national league makes things much more complex to run. For example, conferences span multiple states, and those states often times have high school soccer at different times of the year, causing the scheduling of games across state lines to be a tricky task. There will be at least a half dozen showcases all over the country, and it takes a year to plan each one. If you've ever been to and ECNL or GDA showcase, you'd realize how much planning and organization has to go into each showcase. Have you ever been to one? Think of organizing more than a half dozen Surf Cups at different venues all over the country at different times of the year, plus playoffs and finals. Downplay the effort all you want, but you comparing it to a local league lets me know all I need to know about your level of knowledge about how these leagues work.
If US soccer, with all of it's resources, couldn't succeed with their national league, the success of the new GA league is far for assured.
 
futboldad1 said:
The GA league is not going to have top teams or talent..... that is just the truth, but I'm sure some DOCs are selling it hard after being shut out by the ECNL.....
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That would imply that the weakest player on any given ECNL team is stronger than the best player on any given GA team. Or is that not quite what you meant to say?

Our DOC cares not one whit about being in ECNL or not. Focus is on getting the girls ready to play in the GA.
 
Giesbock said:
That would imply that the weakest player on any given ECNL team is stronger than the best player on any given GA team. Or is that not quite what you meant to say?

Our DOC cares not one whit about being in ECNL or not. Focus is on getting the girls ready to play in the GA.
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And yes, I am throwing my hopes behind the GA. Trust the organization my daughter is with and away we go!

I’m sure ECNL is stacked with talent and skill, but not every player from former DA suddenly went poof and landed on an ECNL team.

Wish your player (s) a great upcoming season.
 
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