National Cup - 04s - Tech Specs

TangoCity said:
Not the style I was expecting. Did they edit out the passing and edit in all the kickball? Had to stop watching.
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Anyone watch what link of the 05 final?
I watched the first half. I don't think I saw more than 2 passes in a row. I know that at this level, there is a ton of speed, so teams don't have the time they are used to against slower teams. I'm just surprised how little passing there was.
 
timbuck said:
Anyone watch what link of the 05 final?
I watched the first half. I don't think I saw more than 2 passes in a row. I know that at this level, there is a ton of speed, so teams don't have the time they are used to against slower teams. I'm just surprised how little passing there was.
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Be sure to watch the 03 National Cup Championship game and there was no passing in this game at all. All 50/50 balls in the air. What happened to connecting on the ground???
 
Soccer 123 - Mis-characterization of Arsenal's play- we don't always play that way - our play is a mix of Speed and Verticality mixed w/ Possession.

When confronted with a more skilled possession team, we play to our advantage . . . especially when faced against pure possession teams Like Surf, who are highly skilled and take advantage of lanes and runs . . .this is when you find us playing the Physical / speed / vertical game ... we played to our advantage, kept the ball away from the feet and moved the ball forward through the air, which ultimately was very disruptive to Surfs game plan. my 2 cents
 
Kongzilla said:
Soccer 123 - Mis-characterization of Arsenal's play- we don't always play that way - our play is a mix of Speed and Verticality mixed w/ Possession.

When confronted with a more skilled possession team, we play to our advantage . . . especially when faced against pure possession teams Like Surf, who are highly skilled and take advantage of lanes and runs . . .this is when you find us playing the Physical / speed / vertical game ... we played to our advantage, kept the ball away from the feet and moved the ball forward through the air, which ultimately was very disruptive to Surfs game plan. my 2 cents
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Lmao, you are delusional....your DD's team plays some major 8th grade kickball!
 
timbuck said:
I guess the good news is that our g04 team doesn't be play that bad, compared to the champs. Just not quite as big or fast across the whole roster.
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I am sure your AYSO extra team would not fare well on a Crl pitch.
Sorry but all this belly aching is getting annoying . Part of the game is the mental strength and grit. Quit slamming Arsenal at least they play with heart and soul.
I am no RB Fan but I am not going to discount some exceptional Arsenal girls!
 
After all this banter I decided to watch part of the game with my son yesterday. The interesting thing even he was able to pick up was that even when Surf received the ball in the air without a lot of pressure, they were not able to settle it. At this leave I assume all the girls know how to do this so Striker is right that Surf did not have the mental maturity in this game. Arsenal was the better team and I hate to say it but RB was the better coach Saturday.
 
Fact said:
After all this banter I decided to watch part of the game with my son yesterday. The interesting thing even he was able to pick up was that even when Surf received the ball in the air without a lot of pressure, they were not able to settle it. At this leave I assume all the girls know how to do this so Striker is right that Surf did not have the mental maturity in this game. Arsenal was the better team and I hate to say it but RB was the better coach Saturday.
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RB was in Sin City on Saturday. :)
 
what does everyone got against kickball? ground game is boring. they really can't connect more than 3 max at 13 yo. As in american football establish the run game (ground) then beat them in the air. Get the ball deep take the top off the defense. Club soccer is competitive so winning should be okay. just MHO
 
Striker17 said:
I am sure your AYSO extra team would not fare well on a Crl pitch.
Sorry but all this belly aching is getting annoying . Part of the game is the mental strength and grit. Quit slamming Arsenal at least they play with heart and soul.
I am no RB Fan but I am not going to discount some exceptional Arsenal girls!
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Let me explain. First- our team has moved programs and we are using Spring to figure out where we belong. We need to adjust to a faster pace of play than we are used to.
We played in a tournament this weekend with mixed results against 04 Flight 2 teams. Won 1 game- played ok. Lost 2nd game 2-0 (could have been worse. We also missed a PK that might have made the score look closer) We were outplayed by a team that played very good possession. Frustrated me that our team hasn't been playing the way they did. Hope to play them again soon to see if we start to "click" a little better. Some work to do.
Lost 3rd game to a team that was fairly even in skill and "style" of play. We were smaller, but that will be our case all year and we'll need to get used to it.
We work on first touch and passing all the time. We never work on booting it to nobody. But the girls panic when under pressure and it happens.
I watched the first half of the g05 final online. We have friends on both teams. Both teams would spank my team with their their speed, strength and desire. But I was really surprised that I didn't see a passing sequence of 3 passes in a row more than once or twice, from either team. Both teams had a very strong back line that got to the ball quickly and got it out of danger. I didn't see any passes back to the keeper to open up the field. I didn't see too many passes back from midfield to switch play.
Then I watched the 04 final and I saw some of the same.
Maybe all of these teams play a "prettier" game when there isn't a title on the line or against teams that they have a speed advantage over. (I know my looks pretty good when playing slower teams). If we ever get to that level, I'm sure I'd be pretty puckered up too about not making a mistake that could lose the game. I get it. It's the last game of a big season. Just win.
 
jose said:
what does everyone got against kickball? ground game is boring. they really can't connect more than 3 max at 13 yo. As in american football establish the run game (ground) then beat them in the air. Get the ball deep take the top off the defense. Club soccer is competitive so winning should be okay. just MHO
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Oh that's what Arsenal was doing. Must be, because RB played American Football and not soccer.
 
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jose said:
what does everyone got against kickball? ground game is boring. they really can't connect more than 3 max at 13 yo. As in american football establish the run game (ground) then beat them in the air. Get the ball deep take the top off the defense. Club soccer is competitive so winning should be okay. just MHO
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Kickball is terrible soccer and I would expect more out of club soccer! We don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars on training to have our dd's playing kickball. You want them learning how to play the game properly at a young age and to say that they can't connect more than 3 passes at 13 years old is sad. Ecnl teams don't play kickball and I would expect no da teams next season to play kickball. Just saying!
 
Busy little beaver posting this worthless picture in two places.
1. Your CB couldn't collect a pass
2. Her peer ran to compensate across the field for her, shocking, and inadvertently fouled someone.
Didn't look like a foul to me actually at all!
3. Wall of four on the most talented striker- odd especially when you saw the set up
4. Scrum and two handballs yes. No one disputes that

What people are disputing which people can't seem to wrap their heads around is Surf was outplayed from the get go.
As I teach my DD with every goal or loss or whatever when she wants to scream about a mean player or ref- if you took control of the game and handled business you wouldn't be in this position. Surf didn't.
Again difference between the mentality of a champion and not.
 
Striker17 said:
Busy little beaver posting this worthless picture in two places.
1. Your CB couldn't collect a pass
2. Her peer ran to compensate across the field for her, shocking, and inadvertently fouled someone.
Didn't look like a foul to me actually at all!
3. Wall of four on the most talented striker- odd especially when you saw the set up
4. Scrum and two handballs yes. No one disputes that

What people are disputing which people can't seem to wrap their heads around is Surf was outplayed from the get go.
As I teach my DD with every goal or loss or whatever when she wants to scream about a mean player or ref- if you took control of the game and handled business you wouldn't be in this position. Surf didn't.
Again difference between the mentality of a champion and not.
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My DD was eliminated in bracket play but after reading all the post I have a question, if Surf got outplayed, if Arsenal dominated, why was the score 0-0 until this unfortunate play? By all the negative posts regarding Surf, I thought Arsenal would have won +++ 3-0. By the score, seems like a pretty even match until the refs blew a call. Just an outsiders interpretation.
 
Soccer123 said:
Kickball is terrible soccer and I would expect more out of club soccer! We don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars on training to have our dd's playing kickball. You want them learning how to play the game properly at a young age and to say that they can't connect more than 3 passes at 13 years old is sad. Ecnl teams don't play kickball and I would expect no da teams next season to play kickball. Just saying!
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everyones taste is different. I'm on an island here but i like watching speed on speed. maybe booting it every time isn't good but having your fastest player do their thing is fun. then the other kids can go chase it down in the trenches and get scoring chances.
 
krazysoccer said:
My DD was eliminated in bracket play but after reading all the post I have a question, if Surf got outplayed, if Arsenal dominated, why was the score 0-0 until this unfortunate play? By all the negative posts regarding Surf, I thought Arsenal would have won +++ 3-0. By the score, seems like a pretty even match until the refs blew a call. Just an outsiders interpretation.
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Valid question.
It should have been higher. There was a gorgeous play in the first 8. Multiple opportunities abounded. Credit to 3 on Surf she stopped momentum and plays with grit.
The game is an excellent teaching tool. I can't speak to exact number of surf shots but I can tell you the Arsenal goalie was only pressured once and that was in the first two minutes.
You can get outplayed and out hustled with a low scoring game.
To be frank one of the tenants of DA is eliminating those high scoring games - translation boot to my fast forward.
Watch the game- see who spends the first seven minutes with the ball in the air.
 
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