More potential NCAA changes

That's a bit like prostate cancer evaluating colorectal cancer.
I hope there are changes to the college system and this panel has some effect.
The college soccer system is a joke in the springtime. Allowing six dates for competition. European academies must laugh at 6 dates of play during the spring school semester. How can any developmet, continuity, etc… occur over six dates? Internationally, the training schedule is year round and the men’s/women’s college programs are way behind and need to change their ways yesterday.
 
I hope there are changes to the college system and this panel has some effect.
The college soccer system is a joke in the springtime. Allowing six dates for competition. European academies must laugh at 6 dates of play during the spring school semester. How can any developmet, continuity, etc… occur over six dates? Internationally, the training schedule is year round and the men’s/women’s college programs are way behind and need to change their ways yesterday.
And no more infinite subs BS!

Force coaches to develop players and teams. Not just find a bunch of big and fast that cant run longer that 10 minutes.
 
US soccer trying to get involved is not a good thing.
Its 100% disingenuous for them to believe getting involved at the college level will somehow make the NSWL pipeline better, or even the National team pipeline better. Fix the youth process first, then abandon your fixation with fast and fit athletes who can only dribble going full speed.

If the plan includes going back to very young ages as well then maybe they are trying to get their act together. But a point solution here does nothing.

Didnt' mean to go to far off topic.
 
US soccer trying to get involved is not a good thing.
Its 100% disingenuous for them to believe getting involved at the college level will somehow make the NSWL pipeline better, or even the National team pipeline better. Fix the youth process first, then abandon your fixation with fast and fit athletes who can only dribble going full speed.

If the plan includes going back to very young ages as well then maybe they are trying to get their act together. But a point solution here does nothing.

Didnt' mean to go to far off topic.
Maybe, maybe not.

NFL has a free minor league via College football.

MLS and NWSL could have free minor leagues as well if College soccer could align on and provide pro clubs the type of players they need to be successful.

The thing that's obvious to me right now is that college soccer is a different game than pro soccer. With special rules and allowances. Why is this? College is supposed to be for training students and players to do something professionally. If this isn't happening why does College soccer exist?
 
This plan helps all parties. Put the kids who are getting no PT (in the Pros) back in college for development. Call them back in a few years if they see improvement. Don't understand why kids are giving up college for 10 minutes per game. At Least they can try to work towards a education.
 
lets hope the consulting firm does something smart…. Player stats. US Soccer youth lists are 199% subjective and greasy wheel, club coaches play favorites and this combo nonsense partially informs college. pass rate, win rate, work rate, etc etc….
 
Maybe, maybe not.

NFL has a free minor league via College football.

MLS and NWSL could have free minor leagues as well if College soccer could align on and provide pro clubs the type of players they need to be successful.

The thing that's obvious to me right now is that college soccer is a different game than pro soccer. With special rules and allowances. Why is this? College is supposed to be for training students and players to do something professionally. If this isn't happening why does College soccer exist?
College soccer is not for developing pros like football. High level soccer athletes can be directly recruited from high school.

The only way college soccer become relevant if MLS forces players to go to college like the NFL.

MLS Academies won't do that because once that player goes to college they have no hold on the player that they developed.

Also there is little money in pro soccer in the USA. Most college soccer players can make more money getting a regular job that playing pro soccer.
 
This is a way for colleges to try and find a way to not pay players by declaring them semi pro athletes. It's always about money and never about the athletes.
 
College soccer is not for developing pros like football. High level soccer athletes can be directly recruited from high school.

The only way college soccer become relevant if MLS forces players to go to college like the NFL.

MLS Academies won't do that because once that player goes to college they have no hold on the player that they developed.

Also there is little money in pro soccer in the USA. Most college soccer players can make more money getting a regular job that playing pro soccer.
Yes, i understand all that.

It still doesnt make sense that college and pro soccer have very different rules. Again, if college had the same rules as pro soccer it would be FREE development for pro clubs. There's no downside. Even if pro teams choose to not field any college players its still a pathway pro teams could pull from if they wanted to.

The reason college has different rules from pro teams is because college coaches want it this way. They want big, fast, and disposable players. They want wins to be more about ability to recruit than ability to coach or develop a team/players.
 
College soccer is not for developing pros like football. High level soccer athletes can be directly recruited from high school.

The only way college soccer become relevant if MLS forces players to go to college like the NFL.

MLS Academies won't do that because once that player goes to college they have no hold on the player that they developed.

Also there is little money in pro soccer in the USA. Most college soccer players can make more money getting a regular job that playing pro soccer.
Might be a long shot, but it could work. MLS Academies could retain a players MLS Rights and let the player develop in college similar to how EFL Academies loan their players out to League 1 & 2 clubs. If this ever becomes reality a player could get their college degree possibly for free or a heavy discount and then pursue a professional pathway. Once that fizzles, fall back on the degree.
 
This plan helps all parties. Put the kids who are getting no PT (in the Pros) back in college for development. Call them back in a few years if they see improvement. Don't understand why kids are giving up college for 10 minutes per game. At Least they can try to work towards a education.
That's what I don't understand either. I mean if it was big money involved, like basketball, football, baseball.......I could understand. But some of these girls are foregoing college and not getting a lotta money. What's the draw? I always wonder, what's the plan for these girls after NWSL?
 
Yes, i understand all that.

It still doesnt make sense that college and pro soccer have very different rules. Again, if college had the same rules as pro soccer it would be FREE development for pro clubs. There's no downside. Even if pro teams choose to not field any college players its still a pathway pro teams could pull from if they wanted to.

The reason college has different rules from pro teams is because college coaches want it this way. They want big, fast, and disposable players. They want wins to be more about ability to recruit than ability to coach or develop a team/players.
This is true. College coaches keep their jobs by winning championships. They don't get paid to develope players. They want mature transfer and foreign players.

That's why 40% of college soccer players are failed/retired european pro players.

The only way to make college a pro pathway is to ban foreign pro players and make it required to play MLS.
 
Might be a long shot, but it could work. MLS Academies could retain a players MLS Rights and let the player develop in college similar to how EFL Academies loan their players out to League 1 & 2 clubs. If this ever becomes reality a player could get their college degree possibly for free or a heavy discount and then pursue a professional pathway. Once that fizzles, fall back on the degree.
The problem is that soccer is not a revenue sport so most college soccer players are paying their own way. Most have no intention of even playing pro soccer. They just want to get their degree.

Now they want to make college soccer full year like like the pro but make them play for free?

Seems burdensome.
 
This is true. College coaches keep their jobs by winning championships. They don't get paid to develope players. They want mature transfer and foreign players.

That's why 40% of college soccer players are failed/retired european pro players.

The only way to make college a pro pathway is to ban foreign pro players and make it required to play MLS.
The Foreign players issue just highlights how screwed up college soccer is. Coaches are playing for wins to keep their jobs only. Rules have been bent to to give coaches what they want which is disposable players.
 
That's what I don't understand either. I mean if it was big money involved, like basketball, football, baseball.......I could understand. But some of these girls are foregoing college and not getting a lotta money. What's the draw? I always wonder, what's the plan for these girls after NWSL?
I think getting a free education is worth it. Even the football players get their degree or are very close to getting it. To be honest every pro-sports league should use college as its minor league.
 
I hope there are changes to the college system and this panel has some effect.
The college soccer system is a joke in the springtime. Allowing six dates for competition. European academies must laugh at 6 dates of play during the spring school semester. How can any developmet, continuity, etc… occur over six dates? Internationally, the training schedule is year round and the men’s/women’s college programs are way behind and need to change their ways yesterday.
Many schools play two games on those dates giving 10-12 games in the spring.
 
That's what I don't understand either. I mean if it was big money involved, like basketball, football, baseball.......I could understand. But some of these girls are foregoing college and not getting a lotta money. What's the draw?
Social Media followers.... Otherwise it makes no sense. Unless you think you will turn into Alex Morgan but then again why not just do that in college and then have the education to fall back on. I will never understand the 14 year old girls going into the pro's. I mean they are forgoing all school. Some have never been to a day of regular school in their lives. To me that's just sad and the parents should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Might be a long shot, but it could work. MLS Academies could retain a players MLS Rights and let the player develop in college similar to how EFL Academies loan their players out to League 1 & 2 clubs. If this ever becomes reality a player could get their college degree possibly for free or a heavy discount and then pursue a professional pathway. Once that fizzles, fall back on the degree.
MLS already has all the players they want/need. They have their MLS roster, their reserves in MLS Next Pro, affiliations with USL teams, and MLS academies. If you add it all up, they have 100+ players in their direct ecosystem. While they are always looking at/for players, they don't need another layer, i.e. college. They certainly don't need to pay for it or commit to it.
 
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