Lots of Matrix teams have said no to AYSO United.

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AYSO United is not getting as many teams in San Diego as they thought. Looks like 85% of the teams will be going to different clubs. Talk about a slap in the face for AYSO United.
 
Nfarr67291 said:
AYSO United is not getting as many teams in San Diego as they thought. Looks like 85% of the teams will be going to different clubs. Talk about a slap in the face for AYSO United.
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It's less of a slap in the face for AYSO United than people know that AYSO United is locked out of a lot of the letter leagues and if you want to play at the highest levels you are going to have to go elsewhere.
 
TopesWin said:
Maybe the problem is that nobody can keep track of how many different AYSOs there are (United, Extra, Select, Matrix - WTF?)
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From what I know with about 15 years' experience of AYSO, United is the only AYSO club circuit, with one more level Alliance sprouting up, not too sure what the difference in levels is on this one, but appears will be the highest level in AYSO.

'Select', is just a continuation of their Core/Recreational fall program, in which coaches 'Select' the players they want on their tournament team for the Spring. These teams usually disband after the Spring season and those players go back into the Core rec program in the Fall, if they return.

Extra and Matrix (same thing/different name depending on geographical area) are year-round developmental programs geared to be more competitive than their Core Program, but not yet club level.
 
The problem with AYSO United is they start forming teams at age 10. By that time, kids who are good at soccer have already moved on to clubs. By age 10, club parents have figured out this league and that league and have learned that SoCal league flight 1 for U11 is really the flight 3 equivalent.
 
Code said:
This classic Sandbagger move is one of the biggest indicators of a soccer scam coach/club in progress.
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Definitely not a good look but the team was done and disbanding. The team wasn't very good to begin with and lost half the team after the season. This was a last "hurrah" for the remaining players more than a "soccer scam coach/club"...
 
While I can see the value of an AYSO United team, most of them find out real fast that "the grass isn't greener on the other side". The problem is that most AYSO United teams are in the same areas as really good to elite club teams, therefore leaving the AYSO United teams with players and teams that can't compete with those club teams. I've been the referee for many games involving AYSO United teams and most of the time, it doesn't end up good. There was one U12 game that the team went up against a pre-ECNL team. I think the final score was 12-1. Yikes!!!! IMO, the only AYSO Region that can hang with those club teams is the South LA region (1031 I think). They're legit....
 
RedCard said:
While I can see the value of an AYSO United team, most of them find out real fast that "the grass isn't greener on the other side". The problem is that most AYSO United teams are in the same areas as really good to elite club teams, therefore leaving the AYSO United teams with players and teams that can't compete with those club teams. I've been the referee for many games involving AYSO United teams and most of the time, it doesn't end up good. There was one U12 game that the team went up against a pre-ECNL team. I think the final score was 12-1. Yikes!!!! IMO, the only AYSO Region that can hang with those club teams is the South LA region (1031 I think). They're legit....
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It really does vary. No, none of them may be championship winning teams. But if you just look at one age for a moment, 2010B, there is an AYSO United team ranked #177 in state (and cleaning up in Coast), and one ranked #723 in state. There are 738 rated 2010B teams in all of California. So one of them is in the 76th percentile (not bad), and one of them is in 2nd percentile (only 15 teams rated weaker in the entire state).

In 2008B, the top AYSO United team shows #109, and is in E64. In 2009B, the top AYSO United team shows #125.
 
RandomSoccerFan said:
It really does vary. No, none of them may be championship winning teams. But if you just look at one age for a moment, 2010B, there is an AYSO United team ranked #177 in state (and cleaning up in Coast), and one ranked #723 in state. There are 738 rated 2010B teams in all of California. So one of them is in the 76th percentile (not bad), and one of them is in 2nd percentile (only 15 teams rated weaker in the entire state).

In 2008B, the top AYSO United team shows #109, and is in E64. In 2009B, the top AYSO United team shows #125.
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My kids former ayso United team went deep into state cup three years running (and won once) back when coast was still a thing. The issue is in the teen years they begin to hemorrhage their best players since ayso is for the most part locked out of letter league. Just my opinion from limited observation but the other thing is parents at the younger ages seem to approach it like little league: the point is to chase the trophy rather then develop (so when technical play becomes more important in the teen years they find it suddenly doesn’t work anymore)…yeah I know this happens a lot in other places too but much more so ymmv.
 
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