Let Them Play CA

[texanincali]

Yup its that racist Newsom. His policies are killing so many minorities. Its like he is targeting them.... right EOTL... Problem with single party rule. they get all the blame.

Newsom the killer

This is a really good post. It’s so true, but won’t garner any media attention. Newsom’s policies are completely racist in nature and he has played a role in disproportionately killing thousands of minorities. He has a desire to protect those like him and @EOTL, but has no issue with the collateral damage, which is high mortality rates in the Hispanic and black communities. No way he recovers from this amount of blood on his hands.

 

[tjinaz]

This is a really good post. It’s so true, but won’t garner any media attention. Newsom’s policies are completely racist in nature and he has played a role in disproportionately killing thousands of minorities. He has a desire to protect those like him and @EOTL, but has no issue with the collateral damage, which is high mortality rates in the Hispanic and black communities. No way he recovers from this amount of blood on his hands.

Its like Cuomo. Hides all the bodies he stacked in the Nursing homes and the press just goes along.

 

[happy9]

This is a really good post. It’s so true, but won’t garner any media attention. Newsom’s policies are completely racist in nature and he has played a role in disproportionately killing thousands of minorities. He has a desire to protect those like him and @EOTL, but has no issue with the collateral damage, which is high mortality rates in the Hispanic and black communities. No way he recovers from this amount of blood on his hands.

State politics are local. Local politicians regurgitate what rolls down the hill. People believe what their local politicians tell them. That's where you start.

But yea, Newsome is a dirt bag, just like most Governors of his ilk are dirt bags. Newsome is particularly loathsome because he has national aspirations and will do anything to be in the spotlight. He is a spotlight Ranger. They reside on both sides of the aisle.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

This is a really good post. It’s so true, but won’t garner any media attention. Newsom’s policies are completely racist in nature and he has played a role in disproportionately killing thousands of minorities. He has a desire to protect those like him and @EOTL, but has no issue with the collateral damage, which is high mortality rates in the Hispanic and black communities. No way he recovers from this amount of blood on his hands.

Makes no sense... Biden even said poor kids are just as smart as white kids. Why the disparity?

 

[Scott m Shurson]

Its like Cuomo. Hides all the bodies he stacked in the Nursing homes and the press just goes along.

Remember, Fredo was passed over because it’s what pop wanted.

 

[NorCalDad]

I really can't help but to feel that Newsom's "lock the world down" approach has pitted him against the teacher unions. He created so much fear and anxiety. I mean it's pretty ridiculous when I see people slamming kids on Nextdoor for playing pickup basketball. Or that most of our public school fields are closed. Or how someone will be on a hiking trail with a mask on and nobody near them. The optics his public policy has created has really framed the discussions. It's no wonder teachers don't want to get back into the classroom -- "Hey the sky is falling, but do you mind going back to the classroom, even though technically you can still do it remotely?"

I guess my point is that it's easy to slam the teachers here, but the landscape was created by Newsom's policies. I will give him March - July....after that he needed to refocus. The 8/3 youth sports guidelines were incredibly misguided.

 

[EOTL]

I really can't help but to feel that Newsom's "lock the world down" approach has pitted him against the teacher unions. He created so much fear and anxiety. I mean it's pretty ridiculous when I see people slamming kids on Nextdoor for playing pickup basketball. Or that most of our public school fields are closed. Or how someone will be on a hiking trail with a mask on and nobody near them. The optics his public policy has created has really framed the discussions. It's no wonder teachers don't want to get back into the classroom -- "Hey the sky is falling, but do you mind going back to the classroom, even though technically you can still do it remotely?"

I guess my point is that it's easy to slam the teachers here, but the landscape was created by Newsom's policies. I will give him March - July....after that he needed to refocus. The 8/3 youth sports guidelines were incredibly misguided.

Teachers have not wanted to go back into the classrooms because they have a legitimate fear of dying. It is not because they were misled by Newsom into believing it is dangerous when it is not. Almost half a million people have died.

The social distancing guidelines were not misguided, they have saved lives and a lot of them. Complain all you want. Fake speculate that no one would have died if we’d just pretended Covid-19 didn’t exist. Pretend that what you want (little Sally playing soccer) is more important than any of the million things that other people believe exceptions should be made for. You are where you are because you and people like you have never taken this seriously enough. Since the inception of the pandemic, people at this forum have done nothing but whine and oppose efforts to reduce spread.

There’s @MSK357 who claimed no one was dying of covid-19, and who promised to leave this site forever if more than 12,000 people died. He still thinks no one is dying of covid because Q has apparently told him they’re all dying “with” covid, which is about as dumbf**king a thing I’ve ever heard. Then there are the likes of @Desert Hound who was whining about not being able to hit the bars as far back as May or June I believe.

Then there is grace karen who is still going around claiming masks don’t work, and who blithely ignored recommendations to avoid spread to take her kid to Utah and back to play kiddie soccer early in the pandemic before CA had to clamp down hard after idiots like her weren’t getting it. These idiots are complaining that CA has had to implement strict regulations when the reason we have them is because they refused to even follow far less strict recommendations. Then there have been a whole slew of people mocking anyone in support of social distancing by claiming they should hide in their basement. They also claimed (and still claim) that old people who got it and died deserve it since they should have just stayed home, as if that were a legitimate option for most.

By all means keep criticizing people who call out those who refuse to comply with even the most basic and obvious of social distancing guidelines. Maybe you’ll all keep passing it around until it mutates enough so that the existing vaccines don’t work. Or it just keeps spreading because anti-vax psychos like @crush keep it going. Or until everyone is vaccinated because that is what people like you have proven it will take.

 

[Kicker4Life]

Teachers have not wanted to go back into the classrooms because they have a legitimate fear of dying. It is not because they were misled by Newsom into believing it is dangerous when it is not. Almost half a million people have died.

The social distancing guidelines were not misguided, they have saved lives and a lot of them. Complain all you want. Fake speculate that no one would have died if we’d just pretended Covid-19 didn’t exist. Pretend that what you want (little Sally playing soccer) is more important than any of the million things that other people believe exceptions should be made for. You are where you are because you and people like you have never taken this seriously enough. Since the inception of the pandemic, people at this forum have done nothing but whine and oppose efforts to reduce spread.

There’s @MSK357 who claimed no one was dying of covid-19, and who promised to leave this site forever if more than 12,000 people died. He still thinks no one is dying of covid because Q has apparently told him they’re all dying “with” covid, which is about as dumbf**king a thing I’ve ever heard. Then there are the likes of @Desert Hound who was whining about not being able to hit the bars as far back as May or June I believe.

Then there is grace karen who is still going around claiming masks don’t work, and who blithely ignored recommendations to avoid spread to take her kid to Utah and back to play kiddie soccer early in the pandemic before CA had to clamp down hard after idiots like her weren’t getting it. These idiots are complaining that CA has had to implement strict regulations when the reason we have them is because they refused to even follow far less strict recommendations. Then there have been a whole slew of people mocking anyone in support of social distancing by claiming they should hide in their basement. They also claimed (and still claim) that old people who got it and died deserve it since they should have just stayed home, as if that were a legitimate option for most.

By all means keep criticizing people who call out those who refuse to comply with even the most basic and obvious of social distancing guidelines. Maybe you’ll all keep passing it around until it mutates enough so that the existing vaccines don’t work. Or it just keeps spreading because anti-vax psychos like @crush keep it going. Or until everyone is vaccinated because that is what people like you have proven it will take.

Please do tell us how Defunding the Police, Providing Universal Healthcare and a moratorium on Charter Schools has ANYTHING to do with a “legitimate fear of dying”?

Should we just que this one in with all of the other questions that you ignore because the fact based answer doesn’t fit your narrative?

 

[EOTL]

Please do tell us how Defunding the Police, Providing Universal Healthcare and a moratorium on Charter Schools has ANYTHING to do with a “legitimate fear of dying”?

Should we just que this one in with all of the other questions that you ignore because the fact based answer doesn’t fit your narrative?

Asking for the other stuff also was certainly a stupid ploy by the LA teachers union back in June, but that has nothing to do with teachers not having a legitimate fear of dying. It’s incredibly asinine to claim that the LA union’s request from 7 months ago suggests that teachers aren’t worried about dying. The fact that almost half a million people have already died is enough by itself to establish the legitimacy of their concern, and that they haven’t been duped by the Governor. What you are doing is a typical Q/Fox News/OAN distraction. Do you make stupid arguments like that because you are stupid and actually believe it, or is it because you’re embarrassed to admit you’re wrong?

California teachers union wants schools in ‘purple’ counties to stay closed for 100 days; vaccinations for staff

The teachers union wants most California schools to remain closed for 100 days while the state comes up with a plan to slow the spread of the virus and vaccinate school staff.

edsource.org

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article248846509.html

Teachers must be vaccinated before L.A. schools can reopen, Beutner says

L.A. schools Supt. Austin Beutner says reopening K-12 campuses will require the vaccination of teachers and staff. But UTLA says virus case rates also must drop.

www.latimes.com

California teacher's unions worry about reopening schools

One of California's two powerful teachers unions is warning that reopening schools would be "reckless."

www.ksby.com

California school waivers will require detailed planning

The California Federation of Teachers and California Association of Private School Organizations spoke out about the waivers.

www.abc10.com

 

[Kicker4Life]

Asking for the other stuff also was certainly a stupid ploy by the LA teachers union back in June, but that has nothing to do with teachers not having a legitimate fear of dying. It’s incredibly asinine to claim that the LA union’s request from 7 months ago suggests that teachers aren’t worried about dying. The fact that almost half a million people have already died is enough by itself to establish the legitimacy of their concern, and that they haven’t been duped by the Governor. What you are doing is a typical Q/Fox News/OAN distraction. Do you make stupid arguments like that because you are stupid and actually believe it, or is it because you’re embarrassed to admit you’re wrong?

California teachers union wants schools in ‘purple’ counties to stay closed for 100 days; vaccinations for staff

The teachers union wants most California schools to remain closed for 100 days while the state comes up with a plan to slow the spread of the virus and vaccinate school staff.

edsource.org

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article248846509.html

Teachers must be vaccinated before L.A. schools can reopen, Beutner says

L.A. schools Supt. Austin Beutner says reopening K-12 campuses will require the vaccination of teachers and staff. But UTLA says virus case rates also must drop.

www.latimes.com

California teacher's unions worry about reopening schools

One of California's two powerful teachers unions is warning that reopening schools would be "reckless."

www.ksby.com

California school waivers will require detailed planning

The California Federation of Teachers and California Association of Private School Organizations spoke out about the waivers.

www.abc10.com

How is it conspiracy theory to point out facts? I mean the head of another prominent Teachers Union likened wanting kids to go back to school to “White Privilege”. I never said some teachers weren’t afraid of death. Hell every teacher I know should prefer to be in class and many districts have offered for those who are afraid, to be in charge of virtual class rooms (cause some families don’t want their kids to go back for that same fear).

One can argue/debate the rationality of that fear, but options abound to address and accommodate those who are concerned (minority) without negatively impacting those who are not (majority).

PS - have yet to hear the Cali Teachers Union reel back those demands. Have you?

 

[happy9]

Asking for the other stuff also was certainly a stupid ploy by the LA teachers union back in June, but that has nothing to do with teachers not having a legitimate fear of dying. It’s incredibly asinine to claim that the LA union’s request from 7 months ago suggests that teachers aren’t worried about dying. The fact that almost half a million people have already died is enough by itself to establish the legitimacy of their concern, and that they haven’t been duped by the Governor. What you are doing is a typical Q/Fox News/OAN distraction. Do you make stupid arguments like that because you are stupid and actually believe it, or is it because you’re embarrassed to admit you’re wrong?

California teachers union wants schools in ‘purple’ counties to stay closed for 100 days; vaccinations for staff

The teachers union wants most California schools to remain closed for 100 days while the state comes up with a plan to slow the spread of the virus and vaccinate school staff.

edsource.org

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article248846509.html

Teachers must be vaccinated before L.A. schools can reopen, Beutner says

L.A. schools Supt. Austin Beutner says reopening K-12 campuses will require the vaccination of teachers and staff. But UTLA says virus case rates also must drop.

www.latimes.com

California teacher's unions worry about reopening schools

One of California's two powerful teachers unions is warning that reopening schools would be "reckless."

www.ksby.com

California school waivers will require detailed planning

The California Federation of Teachers and California Association of Private School Organizations spoke out about the waivers.

www.abc10.com

Science, all science. Classrooms bad, little kids bads, schools kill grandparents, bad.

depression, anxiety, suicide, widening the education gap for minority/underprivileged kids - not an issue. Taking care of teachers is the priority - kids are collateral damage and political pawns. Pretty disgusting as a society that we've let this go this way.

We know that keeping schools open is one of the least dangerous — and most important — things a society can do.

And yes, teachers deserve more $$ to do what they do. This is not the way to go about doing it. . There is nothing honorable about the actions of teacher's unions in Chicago, LA, etc. All political BS, at the expense of the kids they pretend to care about.

 

[happy9]

How is it conspiracy theory to point out facts? I mean the head of another prominent Teachers Union likened wanting kids to go back to school to “White Privilege”. I never said some teachers weren’t afraid of death. Hell every teacher I know should prefer to be in class and many districts have offered for those who are afraid, to be in charge of virtual class rooms (cause some families don’t want their kids to go back for that same fear).

One can argue/debate the rationality of that fear, but options abound to address and accommodate those who are concerned (minority) without negatively impacting those who are not (majority).

PS - have yet to hear the Cali Teachers Union reel back those demands. Have you?

Wonder how much time the teachers union's leadership has spent shopping at target - and not for essentials. I hear the Target Strain of the Virus isn't as strong.

 

[EOTL]

How is it conspiracy theory to point out facts? I mean the head of another prominent Teachers Union likened wanting kids to go back to school to “White Privilege”. I never said some teachers weren’t afraid of death. Hell every teacher I know should prefer to be in class and many districts have offered for those who are afraid, to be in charge of virtual class rooms (cause some families don’t want their kids to go back for that same fear).

One can argue/debate the rationality of that fear, but options abound to address and accommodate those who are concerned (minority) without negatively impacting those who are not (majority).

PS - have yet to hear the Cali Teachers Union reel back those demands. Have you?

It isn’t the California Teachers Union that made the statement back in June. You’re just lying.

It is great t hear that you’ve spoken to a few teachers and from your conversations that a majority of teachers in CA are ok with the risk of dying.

 

[happy9]

It isn’t the California Teachers Union that made the statement back in June. You’re just lying.

It is great t hear that you’ve spoken to a few teachers and from your conversations that a majority of teachers in CA are ok with the risk of dying.

Classrooms are scary places - full of danger and stuff - sneaky kids, pulling down their face masks and spitting at their teachers to kill them.

I know you don't really believe this BS that you are spewing. You "appear" to be smart enough to review sciency stuff and come to logical conclusions. But maybe not.

Regardless, kids should be in school. But I know how much you hate kids and that you blame them for increase in suicide, depression, anxiety. Kids just aren't tough enough to get through this pandemic, especially when paired with equally weak parents that have to do this thinga ma jig called work.

 

[Kicker4Life]

It isn’t the California Teachers Union that made the statement back in June. You’re just lying.

It is great t hear that you’ve spoken to a few teachers and from your conversations that a majority of teachers in CA are ok with the risk of dying.

When I’m wrong...I admit it. You are correct, I was wrong that it was the California Teachers Union. It was the Los Angeles Teachers Union....

L.A. Teachers Union Calls to Defund Police, Cap Charter Schools as Part of COVID Reopening Plan

The second-largest teachers union in the U.S. called to defund the police and place a moratorium on charter schools in a "research paper" recommending that Los Angeles city schools stay closed at the beginning of the fall semester.United Teachers Los Angeles released its study on school...

news.yahoo.com

 

[EOTL]

Wonder how much time the teachers union's leadership has spent shopping at target - and not for essentials. I hear the Target Strain of the Virus isn't as strong.

Oh here we go with more denialism. A trip to Target does not involve 30 new people in a small classroom every hour, And the kids in last class of the day have had at least 100 transmissible interactions since the school day started

It is heartwarming to know that you can’t transmit covid traveling to and from soccer tournaments, attending soccer tournaments, going to Target, going to school, going to work, going to bars, going to restaurants, or anywhere other than lying in bed in a nursing home.

How does it feel to be an idiot? To not understand that the limits on youth sports exist for a legitimate reason? That remote school exists for a legitimate reason? That transgender sports participation policies exist for a legitimate reason? That virtually every single topic here involves you upset because you aren’t getting what you want?

 

[happy9]

When I’m wrong...I admit it. You are correct, I was wrong that it was the California Teachers Union. It was the Los Angeles Teachers Union....

L.A. Teachers Union Calls to Defund Police, Cap Charter Schools as Part of COVID Reopening Plan

The second-largest teachers union in the U.S. called to defund the police and place a moratorium on charter schools in a "research paper" recommending that Los Angeles city schools stay closed at the beginning of the fall semester.United Teachers Los Angeles released its study on school...

news.yahoo.com

I mean, come on, they are just the second largest union in the country. No influence there, minor players, small kid population, mostly wealthy, etc..

 

[EOTL]

When I’m wrong...I admit it. You are correct, I was wrong that it was the California Teachers Union. It was the Los Angeles Teachers Union....

L.A. Teachers Union Calls to Defund Police, Cap Charter Schools as Part of COVID Reopening Plan

The second-largest teachers union in the U.S. called to defund the police and place a moratorium on charter schools in a "research paper" recommending that Los Angeles city schools stay closed at the beginning of the fall semester.United Teachers Los Angeles released its study on school...

news.yahoo.com

Yeah, just like I already told you. Now admit that it was just a stupid ploy from last June that is not even remotely what LA teachers are currently requiring before returning to work.

 

[happy9]

Oh here we go with more denialism. A trip to Target does not involve 30 new people in a small classroom every hour, And the kids in last class of the day have had at least 100 transmissible interactions since the school day started

It is heartwarming to know that you can’t transmit covid traveling to and from soccer tournaments, attending soccer tournaments, going to Target, going to school, going to work, going to bars, going to restaurants, or anywhere other than lying in bed in a nursing home.

How does it feel to be an idiot? To not understand that the limits on youth sports exist for a legitimate reason? That remote school exists for a legitimate reason? That transgender sports participation policies exist for a legitimate reason? That virtually every single topic here involves you upset because you aren’t getting what you want?

There ya go, change the topic to another less than intelligent opinion - more gibbersish.

Are you ignoring the science on schools? Are scientist lying? Is the data incorrect. Do your orange boogey man skew the data.

I get it, pivot to stoopid, it's how you roll.

Kids should be in school. It's the least we can do for our kids.

 

[Kicker4Life]

Classrooms are scary places - full of danger and stuff - sneaky kids, pulling down their face masks and spitting at their teachers to kill them.

I know you don't really believe this BS that you are spewing. You "appear" to be smart enough to review sciency stuff and come to logical conclusions. But maybe not.

Regardless, kids should be in school. But I know how much you hate kids and that you blame them for increase in suicide, depression, anxiety. Kids just aren't tough enough to get through this pandemic, especially when paired with equally weak parents that have to do this thinga ma jig called work.

CDC even agrees....

CDC Makes The Case For Schools Reopening

Federal researchers say, with proper safety precautions, schools don't seem to fuel outbreaks, with some exceptions such as indoor sports practices.

www.npr.org