Let Them Play CA

No, you’re here because you have no place better to be and like telling soccer parents how smart you are.

Actually I tell them how dumb they are. I don’t need to talk about myself since I’m not insecure like Grace Karen.
 
Be fair guys, California is only 46th out of all states on percentage of vaccinations administered, so there is 4 states worse than Cali. It must be because of population density.

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I read somewhere as of today we are 49th (only behind Alabama.....yeah!) Meanwhile Florida has vaccinated 1/4 of its seniors. By the beginning of March they expect to have more than 1/2 vaccinated (barring any snafus in vaccine manufacture). My guess is by mid March Florida's IFR will be on the floor, with California's still high struggling to vaccinate seniors 65+ and a long list of essential workers unless something seriously changes.
 
I read somewhere as of today we are 49th (only behind Alabama.....yeah!) Meanwhile Florida has vaccinated 1/4 of its seniors. By the beginning of March they expect to have more than 1/2 vaccinated (barring any snafus in vaccine manufacture). My guess is by mid March Florida's IFR will be on the floor, with California's still high struggling to vaccinate seniors 65+ and a long list of essential workers unless something seriously changes.

Newsom is toast. I'm on the left...like Bernie Left...and I think Newsom is done.

See @EOTL, here's the problem, draconian rules don't work. Our rates are up because people are just done with the rules. So given that, what would've been a better route he could've taken? Let me tell you. He could've looked at the MOUNTAINS of data from all the other states that didn't shutdown everything and looked at their contact tracing. Guess what he would've found? Let me tell you. Outdoor activities are super low risk. This includes youth soccer as well as outdoor group basket weaving. The left, which includes me, can't cherry pick science.
 
Newsom is toast. I'm on the left...like Bernie Left...and I think Newsom is done.

See @EOTL, here's the problem, draconian rules don't work. Our rates are up because people are just done with the rules. So given that, what would've been a better route he could've taken? Let me tell you. He could've looked at the MOUNTAINS of data from all the other states that didn't shutdown everything and looked at their contact tracing. Guess what he would've found? Let me tell you. Outdoor activities are super low risk. This includes youth soccer as well as outdoor group basket weaving. The left, which includes me, can't cherry pick science.
Agree, 100%. He is toast, and any future political aspirations are dead in the water, (rightfully so.)

What's further annoying, is we are supposed to be going out of state 1x a month, (for soccer,) for 3 months in a row, starting in March! Completely unecessary.
 
I read somewhere as of today we are 49th (only behind Alabama.....yeah!) Meanwhile Florida has vaccinated 1/4 of its seniors. By the beginning of March they expect to have more than 1/2 vaccinated (barring any snafus in vaccine manufacture). My guess is by mid March Florida's IFR will be on the floor, with California's still high struggling to vaccinate seniors 65+ and a long list of essential workers unless something seriously changes.
All you have to do is look at the leadership of each state. DeSantis vs. Newsom. I'd take DeSantis any day.
 
Newsom is toast. I'm on the left...like Bernie Left...and I think Newsom is done.

See @EOTL, here's the problem, draconian rules don't work. Our rates are up because people are just done with the rules. So given that, what would've been a better route he could've taken? Let me tell you. He could've looked at the MOUNTAINS of data from all the other states that didn't shutdown everything and looked at their contact tracing. Guess what he would've found? Let me tell you. Outdoor activities are super low risk. This includes youth soccer as well as outdoor group basket weaving. The left, which includes me, can't cherry pick science.
Agree, 100%. He is toast, and any future political aspirations are dead in the water, (rightfully so.)

What's further annoying, is we are supposed to be going out of state 1x a month, (for soccer,) for 3 months in a row, starting in March! Completely unecessary.
Since this is already in the Off Topic forum....when you say he is toast do you mean he will be recalled? Won't be reelected Governor? Won't be a viable Presidential candidate (realistically he can't run until 2028)?

While I wish he were toast, I just don't see it, but if the left is becoming disillusioned with him I could likely be wrong. He's an incredibly savvy politician, but being caught dining out was a huge political mistake. His greatest crime though is preventing kids from returning to school, despite the overwhelming evidence that it is safe with appropriate precautions.
 
Since this is already in the Off Topic forum....when you say he is toast do you mean he will be recalled? Won't be reelected Governor? Won't be a viable Presidential candidate (realistically he can't run until 2028)?

While I wish he were toast, I just don't see it, but if the left is becoming disillusioned with him I could likely be wrong. He's an incredibly savvy politician, but being caught dining out was a huge political mistake. His greatest crime though is preventing kids from returning to school, despite the overwhelming evidence that it is safe with appropriate precautions.
Good question- and I don't really have any answer! If you would have asked me 6 months ago, (hell- maybe even 3,) if he was going to be recalled, I would have said "no way". Now- I'm not so sure!

And I just think that between the dining scandal, the problems with vaccine distribution, (whether that's his fault or not,) the lack of ongoing support for all the business he's shuttered, etc., I think any further political aspirations he may have had are going to be very difficult to pull off.

I don't envy his job at all- he has a mess of a state to deal with. Homeless crisis, lack of afforable housing, a pandemic.. I could go on and on. We have a number of friends who own small businesses. Aid was very hard to get, (and often ran out.) Yet they said he always seemed to be focusing on his "Project Room Key" initiative, not understanding that problem was going to get larger if you let small business flail.
 
Since this is already in the Off Topic forum....when you say he is toast do you mean he will be recalled? Won't be reelected Governor? Won't be a viable Presidential candidate (realistically he can't run until 2028)?

While I wish he were toast, I just don't see it, but if the left is becoming disillusioned with him I could likely be wrong. He's an incredibly savvy politician, but being caught dining out was a huge political mistake. His greatest crime though is preventing kids from returning to school, despite the overwhelming evidence that it is safe with appropriate precautions.

Good question -- I think I made that statement out of anger versus having any real sense of what will happen to him. That being said, I don't think a recall effort will happen, but I think his presidential hopes are over. I think when we do a retrospective of everything it's going to be clear that he really screwed over Californians. Let me be clear, I think if everyone followed the draconian rules we would have much better covid numbers. Unfortunately, the rules are so strict and there's been no published contact tracing data that backs up the what he is asking 40 million people to do. Sure, March-June I get it. We all rallied and hit it out of the park. He was looking pretty dang good back then. But, as we saw other states suffer he and his team should've been looking at that data to determine where CA should go next. The august 3rd youth sports guidelines are about as dumb as they come. He literally had other states being guinea pigs and he should have leveraged those learnings.
 
Newsom is toast. I'm on the left...like Bernie Left...and I think Newsom is done.

See @EOTL, here's the problem, draconian rules don't work. Our rates are up because people are just done with the rules. So given that, what would've been a better route he could've taken? Let me tell you. He could've looked at the MOUNTAINS of data from all the other states that didn't shutdown everything and looked at their contact tracing. Guess what he would've found? Let me tell you. Outdoor activities are super low risk. This includes youth soccer as well as outdoor group basket weaving. The left, which includes me, can't cherry pick science.
GTFOH. I think your position is very odd. Do you really think Newsom’s political career is ruined because of outdoor soccer and outdoor group basket weaving? You’re talking loud but you aren’t saying anything.
 
GTFOH. I think your position is very odd. Do you really think Newsom’s political career is ruined because of outdoor soccer and outdoor group basket weaving? You’re talking loud but you aren’t saying anything.
No, I think Newsom’s career is suffering because we are 49th out of 50 in vaccine logistics. People want this thing to be over, and leaving 3/4 of the vaccine in the freezers doesn’t sound good. We should be putting it into arms, not obsessing over complicated rules about whose arm.
 
GTFOH. I think your position is very odd. Do you really think Newsom’s political career is ruined because of outdoor soccer and outdoor group basket weaving? You’re talking loud but you aren’t saying anything.
I voted for him but I already signed the recall petition.

Soccer is the least of the reasons on why he is going to be out. He is out because most small businesses have suffered too much. Most restaurants are on the brink of termination. Too many restrictions for small business and kids have created a big mess for his political future. All of these closures going on yet the big box stores are printing money.

I’ve always said that it’s acceptable to ask everyone to quarantine for 3 to 4 months. We are now at almost 12 months and are breaking records in the wrong way. He doesn’t even follow the science that he supposedly claims he does.
 
GTFOH. I think your position is very odd. Do you really think Newsom’s political career is ruined because of outdoor soccer and outdoor group basket weaving? You’re talking loud but you aren’t saying anything.

Perhaps I needed to be more clear. I put the basket weaving in there to capture that fact that this isn't just about youth soccer. We should have been emphasizing outdoor activities as being safe and indoor gatherings as higher risk. The left is all about science....yet in this case they're not using it.
 
Perhaps I needed to be more clear. I put the basket weaving in there to capture that fact that this isn't just about youth soccer. We should have been emphasizing outdoor activities as being safe and indoor gatherings as higher risk. The left is all about science....yet in this case they're not using it.
Agreed. My kid spends about 4 hours per day at the skatepark and has become a decent skater in past year. I initially thought some folks were embellishing about the mental health issues some kids are doing experiencing and then I recently received this:
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Agreed. My kid spends about 4 hours per day at the skatepark and has become a decent skater in past year. I initially thought some folks were embellishing about the mental health issues some kids are doing experiencing and then I recently received this:
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See with EOTL logic that is a win. So long as he was wearing a mask and protecting his grandparents. Kids don't need to be outside and doing the things they love they will be fine.
 
GTFOH. I think your position is very odd. Do you really think Newsom’s political career is ruined because of outdoor soccer and outdoor group basket weaving? You’re talking loud but you aren’t saying anything.

And now Newsom is making the vaccine available to the homeless and incarcerated before most of the CA population can get it, including those with high blood pressure and diabetes. This state is so f’ed up.
 
And now Newsom is making the vaccine available to the homeless and incarcerated before most of the CA population can get it, including those with high blood pressure and diabetes. This state is so f’ed up.
I’m not convinced the problem is limited to CA. I have tried to get
And now Newsom is making the vaccine available to the homeless and incarcerated before most of the CA population can get it, including those with high blood pressure and diabetes. This state is so f’ed up.
I haven’t had any luck getting the vaccine through the VA hospital either. I think John Muir hospital will be prepared to vaccinate me before the VA hospital.
On the other hand, my aunt and mother in law in FL are bragging that they went through a “drive through” vaccination and didn’t even have to get out of their cars.
 
I’m not convinced the problem is limited to CA. I have tried to get

I haven’t had any luck getting the vaccine through the VA hospital either. I think John Muir hospital will be prepared to vaccinate me before the VA hospital.
On the other hand, my aunt and mother in law in FL are bragging that they went through a “drive through” vaccination and didn’t even have to get out of their cars.

Florida has been prioritizing the elderly. It's easy...most folks have ID and it's hard for a 20 year old to pass for 65+ if they don't. By focusing on people's jobs like california is it slows everything down because you've got to get organized by work place and get the word out to those people and if the word doesn't get out perfectly doses go to waste.

Glad you are coming along to the notion that this is really affecting kids. In my own extended family there's been 2 breakdowns and a suicide attempt....all the kids have had at least a more minor issue happen with them.
 
See with EOTL logic that is a win. So long as he was wearing a mask and protecting his grandparents. Kids don't need to be outside and doing the things they love they will be fine.
Nah. EOTL has been clear that mental illness is just like heartburn. It wouldn’t be a win, just a pesky bother.
 
I’m not convinced the problem is limited to CA. I have tried to get

I haven’t had any luck getting the vaccine through the VA hospital either. I think John Muir hospital will be prepared to vaccinate me before the VA hospital.
On the other hand, my aunt and mother in law in FL are bragging that they went through a “drive through” vaccination and didn’t even have to get out of their cars.
Indiana residents call 211 and enter their zip code on their phone. They are then connected to a live person in their county and that person asks them a few questions and then gives them an appt time/date. My 82 yr old parents spent <5 mins on the phone, and <10 mins having the shot administered. They were extremely pleased with the process for shot #1. I hope #2 is just as simple.
 
Indiana residents call 211 and enter their zip code on their phone. They are then connected to a live person in their county and that person asks them a few questions and then gives them an appt time/date. My 82 yr old parents spent <5 mins on the phone, and <10 mins having the shot administered. They were extremely pleased with the process for shot #1. I hope #2 is just as simple.
According to my mother in law, the hardest part about getting the second shot administered was finding a place to laminate her immunization card afterwards.
 
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