EOTL, and me, and Kicker. plenty ofus.
Let Them Play CA
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Scott m Shurson
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California is throwing unused vaccine away now. That Gavin sure is a great leader. I guess he proved you don’t need a lockdown to dine indoors without mask and survive.
actually you redirected them to ‘off-topic’ a couple of times, but it was EOTL that drove the conversation before and after your request.
Be fair guys, California is only 46th out of all states on percentage of vaccinations administered, so there is 4 states worse than Cali. It must be because of population density.
States ranked by percentage of COVID-19 vaccines administered: Nov. 30 - Becker's Hospital Review | Healthcare News & Analysis
Wisconsin has administered the highest percentage of COVID-19 vaccines it has received, according to the CDC's COVID-19 vaccine distribution and administration data tracker.
www.beckershospitalreview.com
Scott m Shurson
SILVER ELITE
Be fair guys, California is only 46th out of all states on percentage of vaccinations administered, so there is 4 states worse than Cali. It must be because of population density.
.States ranked by percentage of COVID-19 vaccines administered: Nov. 30 - Becker's Hospital Review | Healthcare News & Analysis
Wisconsin has administered the highest percentage of COVID-19 vaccines it has received, according to the CDC's COVID-19 vaccine distribution and administration data tracker.
I’m happy to be fair. Being fair means acknowledging Newsom is a piece of shit.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Damn, just mind-boggling.
Thousands of Covid-19 vaccines winding up in the trash
It's unclear how many doses have wound up in the trash because many hospitals aren't reporting these numbers for fear of retribution, a leading public health doctor said.
www.nbcnews.com
texanincali
SILVER ELITE
I’m convinced your aren’t as obtuse as you come across. I do think you like being the center of attention and have found a way to stay relevant on here. As much as I’d like to put you on ignore, the laugh and entertainment factor your bring , keeps me from doing so.
Actually I tell them how dumb they are. I don’t need to talk about myself since I’m not insecure like Grace Karen.
Be fair guys, California is only 46th out of all states on percentage of vaccinations administered, so there is 4 states worse than Cali. It must be because of population density.
.States ranked by percentage of COVID-19 vaccines administered: Nov. 30 - Becker's Hospital Review | Healthcare News & Analysis
Wisconsin has administered the highest percentage of COVID-19 vaccines it has received, according to the CDC's COVID-19 vaccine distribution and administration data tracker.
I read somewhere as of today we are 49th (only behind Alabama.....yeah!) Meanwhile Florida has vaccinated 1/4 of its seniors. By the beginning of March they expect to have more than 1/2 vaccinated (barring any snafus in vaccine manufacture). My guess is by mid March Florida's IFR will be on the floor, with California's still high struggling to vaccinate seniors 65+ and a long list of essential workers unless something seriously changes.
Newsom is toast. I'm on the left...like Bernie Left...and I think Newsom is done.
See @EOTL, here's the problem, draconian rules don't work. Our rates are up because people are just done with the rules. So given that, what would've been a better route he could've taken? Let me tell you. He could've looked at the MOUNTAINS of data from all the other states that didn't shutdown everything and looked at their contact tracing. Guess what he would've found? Let me tell you. Outdoor activities are super low risk. This includes youth soccer as well as outdoor group basket weaving. The left, which includes me, can't cherry pick science.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
Agree, 100%. He is toast, and any future political aspirations are dead in the water, (rightfully so.)
What's further annoying, is we are supposed to be going out of state 1x a month, (for soccer,) for 3 months in a row, starting in March! Completely unecessary.
All you have to do is look at the leadership of each state. DeSantis vs. Newsom. I'd take DeSantis any day.
Since this is already in the Off Topic forum....when you say he is toast do you mean he will be recalled? Won't be reelected Governor? Won't be a viable Presidential candidate (realistically he can't run until 2028)?
While I wish he were toast, I just don't see it, but if the left is becoming disillusioned with him I could likely be wrong. He's an incredibly savvy politician, but being caught dining out was a huge political mistake. His greatest crime though is preventing kids from returning to school, despite the overwhelming evidence that it is safe with appropriate precautions.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
Good question- and I don't really have any answer! If you would have asked me 6 months ago, (hell- maybe even 3,) if he was going to be recalled, I would have said "no way". Now- I'm not so sure!
And I just think that between the dining scandal, the problems with vaccine distribution, (whether that's his fault or not,) the lack of ongoing support for all the business he's shuttered, etc., I think any further political aspirations he may have had are going to be very difficult to pull off.
I don't envy his job at all- he has a mess of a state to deal with. Homeless crisis, lack of afforable housing, a pandemic.. I could go on and on. We have a number of friends who own small businesses. Aid was very hard to get, (and often ran out.) Yet they said he always seemed to be focusing on his "Project Room Key" initiative, not understanding that problem was going to get larger if you let small business flail.
Good question -- I think I made that statement out of anger versus having any real sense of what will happen to him. That being said, I don't think a recall effort will happen, but I think his presidential hopes are over. I think when we do a retrospective of everything it's going to be clear that he really screwed over Californians. Let me be clear, I think if everyone followed the draconian rules we would have much better covid numbers. Unfortunately, the rules are so strict and there's been no published contact tracing data that backs up the what he is asking 40 million people to do. Sure, March-June I get it. We all rallied and hit it out of the park. He was looking pretty dang good back then. But, as we saw other states suffer he and his team should've been looking at that data to determine where CA should go next. The august 3rd youth sports guidelines are about as dumb as they come. He literally had other states being guinea pigs and he should have leveraged those learnings.
MacDre
PREMIER
GTFOH. I think your position is very odd. Do you really think Newsom’s political career is ruined because of outdoor soccer and outdoor group basket weaving? You’re talking loud but you aren’t saying anything.
No, I think Newsom’s career is suffering because we are 49th out of 50 in vaccine logistics. People want this thing to be over, and leaving 3/4 of the vaccine in the freezers doesn’t sound good. We should be putting it into arms, not obsessing over complicated rules about whose arm.
SoccerFan4Life
PREMIER
I voted for him but I already signed the recall petition.
Soccer is the least of the reasons on why he is going to be out. He is out because most small businesses have suffered too much. Most restaurants are on the brink of termination. Too many restrictions for small business and kids have created a big mess for his political future. All of these closures going on yet the big box stores are printing money.
I’ve always said that it’s acceptable to ask everyone to quarantine for 3 to 4 months. We are now at almost 12 months and are breaking records in the wrong way. He doesn’t even follow the science that he supposedly claims he does.
Perhaps I needed to be more clear. I put the basket weaving in there to capture that fact that this isn't just about youth soccer. We should have been emphasizing outdoor activities as being safe and indoor gatherings as higher risk. The left is all about science....yet in this case they're not using it.
MacDre
PREMIER
Agreed. My kid spends about 4 hours per day at the skatepark and has become a decent skater in past year. I initially thought some folks were embellishing about the mental health issues some kids are doing experiencing and then I recently received this:
