Ladera Surf?? Becoming OC Surf?

Soccer said:
They will not for fact get into SCDSL. Unless they broker to play under someone else.

This list is final for the clubs currently in SCDSL

http://www.scdslsoccer.com/club-directory

to each their own on where they spend their money. No fault in any choice. Just make sure they are being honest with you.
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Are you sure this is the final list for next season??? It just seems a little early and on Sunday, I got a message through the CSL that they just started excepting applications. Also, I notice the new Legends SGV isn’t on the list, which they should be.
 
diamondintherough said:
Hey, thanks friend!

Ok, so, let me get this straight....reveal my source, without revealing it, got it. But, yes, a little about me...typically I prefer my sources to be unreliable, the shadier the better! I'm seeking the most deceptive, untrustworthy information I can find! Here's a question, if you have no vested interest in the club, if you don't have a child playing for the club, WHY DO YOU CARE?

The paperwork "story" is a logistical issue within the surf franchise. Like I said, time will tell that story. However, it's laughable that any of you a) have the time b) care enough, to spend your days speculating on this issue.

"That dense"....literally LOL. Gotta love a man who is clearly intimidated by a woman, result to name calling. You sound awesome, though, what a catch!

And finally, "Mr. I care about the kids"--you're insulting 10 year old girls playing soccer. We were a first year team, learning to build out the back and possess the ball and they did it well. You're right they didn't look like Barcelona, yet. Y'all asked about results, I gave them to you. We had 70+ 2007 girls come to tryout for this team, parents obviously liked what they saw.
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Well at least you arent defending KT. Which is the basis of the isssue. I never said the other coaches are making money off anything, just one dude and the club/kids suffer. As clubs grow and grow revenue they usually invest in better coaches. The better coaches have left over the years because of the person who runs the club. At least you are aware and still decide to give him your money. Whether the teams play at whatever level in whatever league doesnt matter - I was replying to you having good results. Something wasnt right and those results typically get parents moving on. 70 kids at a tryout for that age group isnt massive, especially in Ladera where you have a lot of kids coming from AYSO, Signature and surrounding clubs. Ladera is a strong soccer area. Would be great if another club stepped in to the same location or a new person took over your club
 
RedCard said:
Are you sure this is the final list for next season??? It just seems a little early and on Sunday, I got a message through the CSL that they just started excepting applications. Also, I notice the new Legends SGV isn’t on the list, which they should be.
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Yes it is. That’s cause Legends SGV will be using Silverlakes from what I hear. Clubs in SCDSL are based on permits.
 
The paperwork issue you are referring too, is Surf is telling OC Surf they need to register them. OC Surf is saying no. Board meeting on it tonight.

Why not just go to CSL?
 
Don’t all clubs have coaches leave from time to time.
There’s a nice little shuffle going this Spring with United/GPS, OC Strikers, Blues, South Slammers, MV Strikers and probably quite a few more.
 
Soccer said:
The paperwork issue you are referring too, is Surf is telling OC Surf they need to register them. OC Surf is saying no. Board meeting on it tonight.

Why not just go to CSL?
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A lot of traveling will be involved with going to CSL, and it's definitely not what Ladera residents want.
In case you didn't know, after leaving Strikers MV and eventually joining Anaheim Surf, they had a very brief stint with TFA, until they almost had a revolt when parents found out how much traveling will need to be done since TFA is not in SCDSL. Going into CSL will mean loosing a lot of $$...players to local clubs.
If OC Surf will take them - would be great for kids. The issue with that, from my understanding, is OC Surf will not allow KT to be in charge of anything.
 
With the already established coaches who were WC now merging as OC Surf (with their overhead) it would be unlikely that they would be interested in taking on a salaried administrator/coach. WC up to this point has always ran a pretty efficient organization with strong teams. They may be concerned about tarnishing a very solid reputation. I have seen that some clubs will fold in any teams that ask to be accepted while other clubs use more discretion in bringing on new full teams. The Blues are a perfect example of a club who doesn't receive whole teams at a time and I think their track record proves their method. I think the thinking majority within WC may feel the same way (unless the Surf people think differently).
 
Eagle33 said:
A lot of traveling will be involved with going to CSL, and it's definitely not what Ladera residents want.
In case you didn't know, after leaving Strikers MV and eventually joining Anaheim Surf, they had a very brief stint with TFA, until they almost had a revolt when parents found out how much traveling will need to be done since TFA is not in SCDSL. Going into CSL will mean loosing a lot of $$...players to local clubs.
If OC Surf will take them - would be great for kids. The issue with that, from my understanding, is OC Surf will not allow KT to be in charge of anything.
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Why would the traveling be greater for CSL than for SCDSL?
 
Slammerdad said:
With the already established coaches who were WC now merging as OC Surf (with their overhead)....
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Its not a merge. Its an affiliation and WC retains its own legal entity. They need their own overhead and admin. So if you apply that logic to Ladera Surf, it simply is another entity under the same logo but different legal entity. The best way to think about this is to view each Surf, other than SD Surf, as a franchise. Each with a different owner but operate under the same brand.
 
espola said:
Why would the traveling be greater for CSL than for SCDSL?
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Because there are hardly no CSL teams in south OC. I realize from your perspective coming from Poway, playing SCDSL is just as much travel as playing CSL, since most of SD players are enrolled in Presidio.
 
espola said:
Why would the traveling be greater for CSL than for SCDSL?
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There are simply less teams in CSL and if you look at the flights, you will see there is greater distances between teams in the same division(compared to SCDSL). It simply comes down to how many teams are within your age group. More total teams equals more teams in a geographical central location equals less travel.
 
mirage said:
Because there are hardly no CSL teams in south OC. I realize from your perspective coming from Poway, playing SCDSL is just as much travel as playing CSL, since most of SD players are enrolled in Presidio.
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Does SCDSL schedule games by geography?
 
Slammerdad said:
There are simply less teams in CSL and if you look at the flights, you will see there is greater distances between teams in the same division(compared to SCDSL). It simply comes down to how many teams are within your age group. More total teams equals more teams in a geographical central location equals less travel.
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I always thought that the designations of North, South, East, West, Central, etc attached to circuit names meant that CSL tried to arrange circuits geographically.
 
mirage said:
Its not a merge. Its an affiliation and WC retains its own legal entity. They need their own overhead and admin. So if you apply that logic to Ladera Surf, it simply is another entity under the same logo but different legal entity. The best way to think about this is to view each Surf, other than SD Surf, as a franchise. Each with a different owner but operate under the same brand.
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That makes sense and I think most know that Surf franchises in this way. What is different here is that Ladera Surf did not get accepted into SCDSL.. so they are not able to franchise under SCDSL.

They will either become OC Surf and give up control or play in CSL.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Not necessarily true....watch Surf, LAGSB top team, Beach SB Hodson, Slammers PA. There are many who do but I get your point.
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For sure. Yeah I think you got my point. I wasn't trying to slam the kids. Parent just claimed they played with possession style and they do not from what I saw.

It's all good, as we got a little deterred from the topic. Sounds like there was a board meeting at Surf to determine if Ladera Surf would be absorbed under OC Surf. I guess time will tell.
 
soccerdad05 said:
Claim was that they played possession soccer which it not typical of most 2007 teams.. Calm down
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I find it best to only say positive things about youth players on the forum (and in general). It is not like we are hauling our fat butts up and down the field.
 
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