Ladera Surf?? Becoming OC Surf?

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soccerdad05

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Does anyone have any confirmation on this? I heard that Ladera Surf is not becoming OC Surf because they did not get SCDSL approved under "Ladera" Surf.
 
Word on the street is SCDSL didn't accept Ladera Surf as it's own club for the reasons of forfeiting games for 2 previous seasons, recreational teams and coaches. I'm sure they will find a way to join some other SCDSL club, who is not familiar or don't want to listen about their previous shenanigans.
 
Well dude who runs Ladera has probably switched club names more than the amount of people who like the guy. Refs and coaches know that guy is a clown. Dude is asst coach, manager for every team as well as "coaching" teams that arent even listed as his. No bios for coaches. Guy is an insurance salesman running a league for sole purpose of making money. Kids arent developing. Sucks for kids and parents who dont know better. The city should just revoke whatever deals he is getting - which was due to the rec program that is just the mechanism to make $
 
If you are looking for a club to have fun, hang with teammates, learn enough about soccer for fun and not have to be a volunteeer for everything like AYSO, then this might be your club.

If getting more out of soccer is your end game, well there are probably better choices.

The fees are low.

But know this KT is not great with money. No need for me to tell you that, search yourself. I hear $300 or so is going straight to him for salary. Dues are low caucus he is duping the Ladera Parks with the all resident factor. He was banned from dealing with them, I hear, DS has too now. No joke about it this club exists to give the three on top a job an income. No bios so are they even soccer guys or just dads who coached or golf professionals? KT got lucky as running the fields part for Ladera AYSO, got to know the parks people, obtained a few more fields each year as he started Ladera Wings, then a few more as Strikers MV now he has 30 teams +/- as Ladera Surf. When a club says on there website if you have a team that wants to join contact xxxx? Are they in this for the kids or $$$. KT is in this for the $$$.

Which is all fine if the kids are having fun!!! But if not and they screw these kids......

Just make sure you keep yours eye open,as all of this could just go away, poof!

To answer your question. No partnership, I hear West Coast told them it would be an adoration of Ladera Surf not a merger. KT et all would just be Coaches.

So where will these kids play in the fall? Better question. No league no state Cup.
 
You forgot Pacific. Yeah he sells insurance, one other guy is a golf pro, one is in engineering sales and one of the teams that has done okay is a lawyer.
Townsen is bad news and yes he used AYSO a money maker to get fields. If you want to find a living, breathing embodiment of the term "used car salesman" thats your guy. Most kids, parents and city officials dont know enough about soccer to figure out this guy is only there for one thing - money. He has used real coaches in the past. Those relationships never last. One coach had the city shut down his training after agreeing to trade private weekly training for the kids in return for some field space. Townsen either called the city at very least he told the city he didnt know about it when asked. He got his free training for the year and threw the coach under the bus. Guy argues with everyone and doesnt even remember who he argues with.
 
Every year we were in SD I used to tell the coaches, why do they dilute the brand so much giving the surf name to all? It's a shame but "Surf" without SD in front of it is all about the $$$, heck could even say it's about the money at SD but our top teams remain great so....
 
I heard from a assistant coach and parent that they will be come "OC Surf - Ladera" and that it was just a paperwork deal.

I think they are buying time until they can find a new options.. CSL or new club to ride under for SCDSL... Although I am sure SCDSL will know if they try to join their 30 teams under a new club name.

Was wondering if anyone from Ladera Surf knew of anything?
 
soccerdad05 said:
I heard from a assistant coach and parent that they will be come "OC Surf - Ladera" and that it was just a paperwork deal.

I think they are buying time until they can find a new options.. CSL or new club to ride under for SCDSL... Although I am sure SCDSL will know if they try to join their 30 teams under a new club name.

Was wondering if anyone from Ladera Surf knew of anything?
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wondering if anyone will admit they have their kid at Ladera.

forgot to ask, what was the reason SCDSL had them forfeit games?
 
Not_that_Serious said:
wondering if anyone will admit they have their kid at Ladera.

forgot to ask, what was the reason SCDSL had them forfeit games?
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I heard it was because they either couldn't get a coach there or more than likely could not provide home fields for all their games.

With 25 teams last year.. They would have to field 50% games at home. I think they only had 2 fields for use and not even the entire days due to AYSO Ladera Ranch. So I am sure they just had to forfeit on that fact alone.. maybe there were expecting the away teams to always host haha
 
soccerdad05 said:
I heard it was because they either couldn't get a coach there or more than likely could not provide home fields for all their games.

With 25 teams last year.. They would have to field 50% games at home. I think they only had 2 fields for use and not even the entire days due to AYSO Ladera Ranch. So I am sure they just had to forfeit on that fact alone.. maybe there were expecting the away teams to always host haha
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funny since that guy is quick to ask for game forfeited in their favor - after a game is played and they lost

the field issue makes sense since he piggy-backed the club to AYSO - which he isnt suppose to do. AYSO/parents would be quick to make a stink if the fields werent available for a game. the city would be on him really quick. he can make an excuse for club forfeits by saying "no coach available"

guess forfeiting games doesnt mean anything as long as the money is still in the bank account. kids be damned
 
Not_that_Serious said:
funny since that guy is quick to ask for game forfeited in their favor - after a game is played and they lost

the field issue makes sense since he piggy-backed the club to AYSO - which he isnt suppose to do. AYSO/parents would be quick to make a stink if the fields werent available for a game. the city would be on him really quick. he can make an excuse for club forfeits by saying "no coach available"

guess forfeiting games doesnt mean anything as long as the money is still in the bank account. kids be damned
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I guess the Forfeiting games only affects the club, seeing as they did not get accepted into SCDSL. I am interested to see what will happen next. I think many Ladera parents are in the dark.
 
soccerdad05 said:
I guess the Forfeiting games only affects the club, seeing as they did not get accepted into SCDSL. I am interested to see what will happen next. I think many Ladera parents are in the dark.
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Of course they are. Club soccer foundations are built on this fact. Not like this guy is going to be forthcoming with the info, parents arent calling scdsl since they probably don't know they were kicked out of the league, dont know its not normal to have one person running all aspects of a club and probably told changing to Surf is for the kids. Kids having games forfeited and losing opp to play due you being a shady douche should automatically get you a) a slide tackle from behind with studs showing, b) a permanent ban from loal leagues and c) permenant ban from working around kids.
 
Not_that_Serious said:
Of course they are. Club soccer foundations are built on this fact. Not like this guy is going to be forthcoming with the info, parents arent calling scdsl since they probably don't know they were kicked out of the league, dont know its not normal to have one person running all aspects of a club and probably told changing to Surf is for the kids. Kids having games forfeited and losing opp to play due you being a shady douche should automatically get you a) a slide tackle from behind with studs showing, b) a permanent ban from loal leagues and c) permenant ban from working around kids.
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You're on a roll today. But with that slide tackle I would aim a little higher.
 
This is a flight 2 and 3 club if you want to call it that and should not even have the Surf name. It seems to be the last chance end of the road for desperate parents who can’t get the players on any other club or team. But they can say “my kids on Surf”!
 
Not_that_Serious said:
wondering if anyone will admit they have their kid at Ladera.

forgot to ask, what was the reason SCDSL had them forfeit games?
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I will "admit" my daughter is at Ladera. She has played for both the "golf pro" and "engineering sales guy". God forbid the guys have day jobs. Pretty sure that's a given for any coach, unless they're living under a freeway. DS holds his national B coaching license and the two of them combined know more about coaching and teaching real soccer then any clueless parent whose only goal is their 8 year old winning every weekend. They coach possession style soccer (not kickball) that every other club coach "teaches", and they get good results.

I agree that the club could stand to be run more efficiently, however, none of you have any real intel on what is actually happening with LR Surf & SCDSL or the "top 3's salaries". LR Surf will be accepted into SCDSL...so much speculation here & misinformation being spit, but hey, it's fun to talk trash all while hiding behind a computer.
 
diamondintherough said:
I will "admit" my daughter is at Ladera. She has played for both the "golf pro" and "engineering sales guy". God forbid the guys have day jobs. Pretty sure that's a given for any coach, unless they're living under a freeway. DS holds his national B coaching license and the two of them combined know more about coaching and teaching real soccer then any clueless parent whose only goal is their 8 year old winning every weekend. They coach possession style soccer (not kickball) that every other club coach "teaches", and they get good results.

I agree that the club could stand to be run more efficiently, however, none of you have any real intel on what is actually happening with LR Surf & SCDSL or the "top 3's salaries". LR Surf will be accepted into SCDSL...so much speculation here & misinformation being spit, but hey, it's fun to talk trash all while hiding behind a computer.
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Perfect example of completely brainwashed Ladera parent. Thank you for sharing.
 
Eagle33 said:
Perfect example of completely brainwashed Ladera parent. Thank you for sharing.
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Awwwww, that's cute.

It's not brainwashing when I watch my daughter's team play good possession soccer and kick the crap out of Strikers OC, SD Surf, South Slammers, West Coast, Pats MV & the Blues.
 
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