LA County Revising Sports Guidelines on Tuesday 8/24 - per LA Times

Sorry the reason for my question is because Long Beach and Pasadena have their own health departments.

Yeah, Calabasas does too....it didn't spare us from the school shut downs or other La County decrees. The only exception is if it's an autonomous health department and they actively decide to ignore the county.
 
I disagree completely. We won't have a shut down again anytime soon, election or no election. We are much more vaccinated than other parts of the continental US (READ: the South/Southeast) and hospitals are no where near capacity (I work at a major one and we have numbers for all hospitals in LA County)
I'm sorry, didn't Newsom already shut down soccer for like a year and a half? So, why wouldn't he just do it again? Seems to be his canned response to anything covid. I won't even touch the food industry. I really hope soccer continues since with a little precaution on the parents side, it is safe to play outdoors in the wind and sun.
 
We're seeing the direct impact in high school sports BTW. A week ago Newbury Park HS had to cancel its game because 1 player came back positive. Eagle Rock was supposed to play San Pedro tonight but San Pedro was unable to get a sufficient amount of cleared players. ViewPark v. Hollywood also cancelled due to not getting enough cleared players.
Wasn't the LA County DPH youth sports guidance delayed until Sept 1? So, those would have to because of either other health orders or from the local school district or school policies.
 
Wasn't the LA County DPH youth sports guidance delayed until Sept 1? So, those would have to because of either other health orders or from the local school district or school policies.

Yeah, this is from school policies. The list is getting pretty long. I've seen 12-14 cancellations fly by (most for testing) since yesterday. That's what the soccer season will look like if this holds.
 
The county should at least let players submit vaccination in lieu of the 48 hour test.

Easier to comply, and does more good. The 48 hour test requirement is going to kill organized sports for low income kids.

It's hard enough to field a team without asking parents to make weekly trips to get tested. And, if they all carpool to get tested, then you're doing more harm than good.
Getting vax is like wearing a holy condom.
 
If this does indeed extend to recreational sports (Club, AYSO, Little League, etc) how many families will likely just pull their kid from the program rather than forking out hundreds of more dollars for stupid tests?
yes and in the end the team gets screwed and the family justifiably should be able to get their money back
 
If your player is already getting tested for school, that test will cover their participation for matches on the weekend as long as they are tested within 72 hours, so plan on getting tested on Wednesday or Thursday depending on their upcoming match schedule.

Vaccinated players who test positive have a much shorter quarantine time and can immediately start getting retested.

Coaches will check once per week and have to submit info up to the club who passes it along.

Teams coming from OC to play LA county teams will need to be tested. It is possible that LA county teams traveling to OC may not need to be tested but you have to test for training anyways so who cares.

LA county has local health districts where the testing is free. You do not need to pay to get tested.

Please do not feed your child horse paste.
 
Not to get into politics, but this isn't really true. IIUC, the reason why the counties can still issue these restrictions is because California's state of emergency declaration is still in effect. Newsom was urged to lift it when he lifted the state tier system back early summer, but declined to do so, to give the counties the flexibility to do stuff like this (mask mandates too)

This is incorrect. Health and Safety Code section 120175 provides counties with authority to implement mask mandates and pretty much any other restriction they believe are needed to prevent spread of Covid-19 regardless of whether the state has declared an emergency. Those who want Newsom recalled originally claimed he was usurping the ability of cities and counties to decide what is best for them, but now it seems they're upset because he won't prohibit them from deciding what is best for them. In other words, they want local jurisdictions to have flexibility to do what they they think is best only until those jurisdictions don't do what they want. When the latter happens, they would prefer an authoritarian governor, just one trying to dictate what they want instead.
 
This is incorrect. Health and Safety Code section 120175 provides counties with authority to implement mask mandates and pretty much any other restriction they believe are needed to prevent spread of Covid-19 regardless of whether the state has declared an emergency. Those who want Newsom recalled originally claimed he was usurping the ability of cities and counties to decide what is best for them, but now it seems they're upset because he won't prohibit them from deciding what is best for them. In other words, they want local jurisdictions to have flexibility to do what they they think is best only until those jurisdictions don't do what they want. When the latter happens, they would prefer an authoritarian governor, just one trying to dictate what they want instead.

You have to read that section with the rest of the code and the powers granted local officers. They include quarantine and the destruction of certain live stock and goods but not regulation of sports, testing, or IIRC masks. That's only possible because of the state of emergency the governor has issued....the argument at the time was that California's health code was outdated and was written with diseases like measles in mind, so certain extraordinary steps needed to be taken by the state and county which weren't thought of before when the statute was written.

p.s. I for one never said cities and counties should decide....I did argue states should decide, not the feds, but that's different....as soccer show you can't have Beverly Hills come up with a different testing requirement than Pasadena and then expect kids/parents to know how to comply
 
So, genuine question. Do we need to test them on BOTH Wednesday and again on Thursday if they have a Saturday and Sunday game? If I test my daughter on Wednesday, the 72 hour limit will lapse for Sunday’s game? And rapid testing appointments are not as easy to find as the regular tests.
Our first LA county league games are a back to back weekend, so trying to plan ahead.

If your player is already getting tested for school, that test will cover their participation for matches on the weekend as long as they are tested within 72 hours, so plan on getting tested on Wednesday or Thursday depending on their upcoming match schedule.
 
Just think HOW MANY KIDS play sports in LA Co. Now ALL of these kids will need to have tests on Wed and/or Thursday of EVERY week.

Wonder how long those lines are gonna be……
 
Just think HOW MANY KIDS play sports in LA Co. Now ALL of these kids will need to have tests on Wed and/or Thursday of EVERY week.

Wonder how long those lines are gonna be……

HS soccer games can be just about any day of the week but most have a mon - wed - fri type schedule. Add in weekend club games and one test of week won't cover the 72hrs so going to have to get creative or do mutiples per week.

Schools might find ways to schedule the games & tests to accommodate but they won't know or care club sports scheduling.
 
You have to read that section with the rest of the code and the powers granted local officers. They include quarantine and the destruction of certain live stock and goods but not regulation of sports, testing, or IIRC masks. That's only possible because of the state of emergency the governor has issued....the argument at the time was that California's health code was outdated and was written with diseases like measles in mind, so certain extraordinary steps needed to be taken by the state and county which weren't thought of before when the statute was written.

p.s. I for one never said cities and counties should decide....I did argue states should decide, not the feds, but that's different....as soccer show you can't have Beverly Hills come up with a different testing requirement than Pasadena and then expect kids/parents to know how to comply

You are wrong. In fact, virtually every local jurisdiction cites section 120175 in the ordinances themselves as a basis for their authority to implement them in the first place. As for livestock and destruction of property, that section requires that a local health officer must quarantine livestock or destroy property when instructed to do so by the state, but that has no impact on a local health officer's authority or duty to take steps deemed necessary to limit spread under section 120175. There is absolutely nothing in "the rest of the code" that limits a local health officer's authority to combat communicable diseases to destroying livestock and goods under that section, and it is disingenuous to claim otherwise. Or can you quote a statute or a court that says you are right?

And sure one city in LA County can impose a different requirement than another city in LA County, just like one state can issue a different requirement than another state, or one county can issue a different requirement than another county. There is nothing that says a city can't implement ordinances because people might come to their city and not know what they are. In fact, one reason to have ordinances is to protect a local citizenry from yahoos trying coming to their town and acting like idiots.
 
HS soccer games can be just about any day of the week but most have a mon - wed - fri type schedule. Add in weekend club games and one test of week won't cover the 72hrs so going to have to get creative or do mutiples per week.

Schools might find ways to schedule the games & tests to accommodate but they won't know or care club sports scheduling.

probably moot now if eric is right (see above)
 
What? Looks like they backed down.

Board of supervisors had enough feedback to put a agenda item/vote today on this matter.

"Los Angeles County will modify the Health Officer Order to update youth sports testing requirements for vaccinated and unvaccinated athletes, staff, coaches and volunteers.

The County continues to recommend weekly testing for unvaccinated participants in youth sports. The following applies to teams and sport activities based in Los Angeles County and relaxes some screening testing:
  • Indoor Moderate or High Risk Sports for children of all ages, staff, coaches and volunteers. A weekly negative test result is required for all participants who are not fully vaccinated, including children who are playing, staff, coaches, and volunteers;weekly school testing fulfills this obligation.

  • Outdoor Moderate or High Risk Sports for youth 12 and older, staff, coaches and volunteers. A weekly negative test result is required for all participants 12 and older who are not fully vaccinated, including children who are playing, staff, coaches, and volunteers;weekly school testing fulfills this obligation.

  • No screening testing required for children under 12 playing Outdoor Sports; weekly school testing fulfills this recommendation.
  • Fully vaccinated youth participating in outdoor sports are not required to test weekly unless there is a positive case among players, coaches and/or staff. If there is a positive case, all players, coaches, staff and volunteers (regardless of vaccination status) are required to have a weekly negative test result for two weeks from exposure to the case and must test negative prior to competitions.
 
Board of supervisors had enough feedback to put a agenda item/vote today on this matter.

"Los Angeles County will modify the Health Officer Order to update youth sports testing requirements for vaccinated and unvaccinated athletes, staff, coaches and volunteers.

The County continues to recommend weekly testing for unvaccinated participants in youth sports. The following applies to teams and sport activities based in Los Angeles County and relaxes some screening testing:
  • Indoor Moderate or High Risk Sports for children of all ages, staff, coaches and volunteers. A weekly negative test result is required for all participants who are not fully vaccinated, including children who are playing, staff, coaches, and volunteers;weekly school testing fulfills this obligation.

  • Outdoor Moderate or High Risk Sports for youth 12 and older, staff, coaches and volunteers. A weekly negative test result is required for all participants 12 and older who are not fully vaccinated, including children who are playing, staff, coaches, and volunteers;weekly school testing fulfills this obligation.

  • No screening testing required for children under 12 playing Outdoor Sports; weekly school testing fulfills this recommendation.
  • Fully vaccinated youth participating in outdoor sports are not required to test weekly unless there is a positive case among players, coaches and/or staff. If there is a positive case, all players, coaches, staff and volunteers (regardless of vaccination status) are required to have a weekly negative test result for two weeks from exposure to the case and must test negative prior to competitions.
Since most la public and private schools are testing weekly anyways, this means zero impact on most la students. It will basically function as a vaccine mandate for the coaches (might be a problem for ayso which is also the most likely to actually enforce it). Other problem may be for some teams from Ventura county that don’t have weekly testing and have to come into la to play (don’t know situation in oc but not all districts in vc are testing and in my sons former team maybe 60% vaxxed).
 
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