Is club soccer a waste of time/money for youngers (under 10 yo)?

crush said:
He sounds real and sounds like a Doc I dealt with. Not American in "moo." That's what "pay to play" means in DA States. I lived it and watched it before me very eyes. That's why they call me a "bum", "dumb dumb", "full of bullshit" "on meds" "talks in the third person" "had multiple avatars" "Coo Coo" "go spend more time with your 18 year old dd who is flying out of my nest". I can go on and on. This paytoplayisgood Doc has no kids and is clueless. What he should say is, "go spend more time with your wife." That would make more sense and I would agree and that is a big reason I'm leaving. Plus both of her parents have Alzheimer's and it only gets worse and they need our help and help is on the way. I had one Doc test my dd and her ethics with the US Training Center. He picked the wrong girl and family to pull some monkey business. Look, I am the most competitive dude around. I'm so competitive and old school, I have to win fair and square or lose and learn the right way. I think paying to be on the team and paying extra to get minutes and paying to start 25% of the best of the best games with the best players ever assembled in a league is what the rich are all about. Plus, if you donate to the club, buy a thousand golf balls, go to all the camps and do privates, then you to will be developed as a "pay to play" player I should be able to express my dislike about the "pay to be on the team" "pay to play" "pay to play more" "pay even more and get?" Look, not every Doc collects money like this to make his living or play in the game he coaches, but that is so messed up for the other kids. I had a dad tell me about this and I saw with my own eyes.
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I just don't get the concept that joining a soccer club must be free. Like how do you expect coaches to get paid, field rentals, league fees, ref fees, etc to get done? Youth soccer must have a cost in order to participate. If you are good enough, you can have a chance at getting aid. in my daughters team, one girl is a standout and comes from a low income so we give them cheaper fee to play. Otherwise she will leave and go to some local weaker team.
 
paytoplayisgood said:
I just don't get the concept that joining a soccer club must be free. Like how do you expect coaches to get paid, field rentals, league fees, ref fees, etc to get done? Youth soccer must have a cost in order to participate. If you are good enough, you can have a chance at getting aid. in my daughters team, one girl is a standout and comes from a low income so we give them cheaper fee to play. Otherwise she will leave and go to some local weaker team.
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Doc with kid? No one said free soccer is good for the Doc. Yes, crush said soccer should be free for little kids but coach will get paid in other ways or by others, not the poor parents. When you take your play to the next level, look to pay a good coach good pay for good coaching, not bribes to get minutes, the position of your choice and then more goodies if you pay and play the right way. Money talks in this sport. Paying a coach to play is not good. Pay coach to learn the game= good. Pay to play in the game and pay extra is naughty and opens up to naughtier behavior after hours. You did see the Movie Forrest Gump? Remember what Miss Gump had to do to get Forrest into school? I do know a few Docs looking for more than money for play time.
 
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I only came back to the forum to talk with the Docs because they wouldn't want to all meet to clear things up, moo. The Docs are always here you guys. I hope everyone can figure that out by now. We do need a good "Yelp 4 Coaches." and "Yelp for Clubs" so people don;t PM me asking me about this club or this coach. Have rules of reviewing each coach and club and or doc and or all of them, so the coach or club can respond to each review, regardless if it's positive or negative or just a reviews of the obvious. No coach is getting perfect 5 star positive reviews from all parents he coaches. A good coach will piss off a parent or two each year. I would like to start giving out crush reviews for all the coaches my dd has played for. I will keep "how they dealt with politics" out of the scoring because it was a hot mess for all of us and we all need mulligans. I got super emotional after the third lies from Docs and took it out on the coaches most of the time. No crush reviews for Docs, only coaches and only about how they taught my dd and all that good stuff. Were they honest? Did they lie more than twice? Did they add players when they said they wou;dn't during the season? Did they charge for privates and did that cause problems? Did they talk about how great they were and all their connections? Did they respect my dd and treat her special, like a fine piece of china?
 
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crush said:
Doc with kid? No one said free soccer is good for the Doc. Yes, crush said soccer should be free for little kids but coach will get paid in other ways or by others, not the poor parents. When you take your play to the next level, look to pay a good coach good pay for good coaching, not bribes to get minutes, the position of your choice and then more goodies if you pay and play the right way. Money talks in this sport. Paying a coach to play is not good. Pay coach to learn the game= good. Pay to play in the game and pay extra is naughty and opens up to naughtier behavior after hours. You did see the Movie Forrest Gump? Remember what Miss Gump had to do to get Forrest into school? I do know a few Docs looking for more than money for play time.
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None of your business. All that matters is that the club gets enough money coming in to help pay our coaches, fields, league fees, and my wallet. The development of one or two girls means nothing if the club isn't profitable.
 
jimlewis said:
My money is its one of Crush's new logins and is having a conversation with himself in order to tell his stories of the past.
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Thanks for nothing Jim. This Doc came on here and started calling me names like "bum" and "Socialists" now I got you accusing me of talking to myself so I can share my dd story one more time before I leave for good. I can;t catch a break. I will say Dom will have none of that and he knows if you have extra accounts to talk to yourself. I do not and would never do such a thing. 24 hours and no more nothing from crush. Only PMs.
 
jimlewis said:
My money is its one of Crush's new logins and is having a conversation with himself in order to tell his stories of the past.
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Hey Jim, I can say I got 3 PMs saying two are Golden Gate for sure and just ignore him and one is not sure and think it might be a Doc. My money is it's GG and I think GG is a Doc. Your money has been taken and gone because you are wrong. Let him share about how he charges his customers extra for extra play time while other kids who paid less play less.
 
crush said:
Hey Jim, I can say I got 3 PMs saying two are Golden Gate for sure and just ignore him and one is not sure and think it might be a Doc. My money is it's GG and I think GG is a Doc. Your money has been taken and gone because you are wrong. Let him share about how he charges his customers extra for extra play time while other kids who paid less play less.
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what is GG? and also what is golden gate
 
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My impression, and I could be wrong because I'm new to this, is that most youth coaches even at the club level make very little money. So that's why there's there are the extra clinics and such.

I'd hate to be on a team where I knew some parents were paying extra to get more play time for their kids though.
 
SJNoob said:
My impression, and I could be wrong because I'm new to this, is that most youth coaches even at the club level make very little money. So that's why there's there are the extra clinics and such.

I'd hate to be on a team where I knew some parents were paying extra to get more play time for their kids though.
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I 100% understand where you're coming from.

Wait until you find out how things really work.

Sometimes the more you know the less you want to know.
 
crush said:
I went down the Rabbit Hole and ran into some interesting folks.
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Theres no rabbit hole.

There is situations where players/parents get involved with something they think is "competitive". But they later find out that pay to play doesnt stop at the entry gate.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Theres no rabbit hole.

There is situations where players/parents get involved with something they think is "competitive". But they later find out that pay to play doesnt stop at the entry gate.
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This is so sad and pathetic. I'm assuming you're blaming your kid not being as good or having as much playing time on other parents spending money on privates with their coaches?
You're the worst parent out there. Just say my kids not good enough to play, or im not willing to get more training for him/her. Or the coach doesn't see as much potential in my kid. Always excuses..
 
jimlewis said:
This is so sad and pathetic. I'm assuming you're blaming your kid not being as good or having as much playing time on other parents spending money on privates with their coaches?
You're the worst parent out there. Just say my kids not good enough to play, or im not willing to get more training for him/her. Or the coach doesn't see as much potential in my kid. Always excuses..
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Haha loving it.

No my kid starts every game + theres no $$$ making it happen.
 
SJNoob said:
My impression, and I could be wrong because I'm new to this, is that most youth coaches even at the club level make very little money. So that's why there's there are the extra clinics and such.

I'd hate to be on a team where I knew some parents were paying extra to get more play time for their kids though.
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I have been doing this a LONG time, and I have never heard of anyone paying extra to get their kid playing time. Sure the private lesson thing is a little shady with one coach (who I would never allow my daughter to play for), but he is an outlier.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Theres no rabbit hole.

There is situations where players/parents get involved with something they think is "competitive". But they later find out that pay to play doesnt stop at the entry gate.
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It was to me. Four years ago I came here to ask my questions and I found a lot of holes.
 
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