Is club soccer a waste of time/money for youngers (under 10 yo)?

crush said:
I know a Doc who makes well over $250,000 a year at his non-profit. This includes privates and consulting fees. Non-Profit only means their is no profit to share. No, you spend all the money each year to show a non-Profit. I'm good with Directors making good money if they do a good job. If they lie, bribe and then blackmail a dad to STFU or else, then no pay is deserved and someone else who cares for the girls can be the Director. Thanks for calling me a Bum, a Dumb and a Socialist. I have been called other things but never these three in a row and never have I been accused of being a Socialist. I must have hit a nerve with you coach. I'm just a dad who told a few dads & docs a few years ago that they will not get away with their lies, yelling and screaming at little girls and telling them all sorts of BS. I did my time and now on Sunday I get to be free. I will not miss the Docs or the TMs. June 5th is big forgiveness day. You think the last four years has been all peachy with these people? You know the customer very well and you know what they want. I forgive you and will look to spend my time helping my wife's parents and then go help the poor and those in need.
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Most Club directors make 250k+via the "Non Profits" they've setup.

I know of one that makes 250k+ never shows up for club events + has a second job as "VP of Relations" at different club.
 
crush said:
Golden Gate, is that you in disagrees again? I never said free soccer by the way, paytoplayisgood. I think paying someone like you or others like you to get my kid play time and college deals is my issue. I paid good people money to coach my dd at Arsenal, Legends, Blues, Surf and Strikers. Sometimes it was free but most of the time I paid for a coach. The GDA brought the "pay to play" and Pay more at my privates" to play more than the other players because you paid more. The more you pay, the more you get play time with some Docs. I will say overall, I got what I paid for and I am very happy. I only had issues really with two Docs, that is the truth. Some coaches yelled but that's an easy fix if someone is willing to listen to females and ask if they like being yelled at or coached and taught with respect. You should do a survey with your GA Club. A Director of a girls program calling a little girl "puny." Why, what mean words you have. My, what lies you have." Yes, others kind of lied with a little bit of this and that but not big lies like the two and those liars also came with threats after I exposed them. You actually are starting to act like one of the one's I dealt with.
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Crush, just ignore golden gate. I actually enjoy your inputs, dry humor and sarcasm. I hope u keep contributing to this forum after your daughter ages out.
I know there are still honest clubs around. Care to share which ones you think are honest?
 
Jamisfoes said:
Crush, just ignore golden gate. I actually enjoy your inputs, dry humor and sarcasm. I hope u keep contributing to this forum after your daughter ages out.
I know there are still honest clubs around. Care to share which ones you think are honest?
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PM me after June 5th and I will share more. Best advice: Find a good coach at a club and take it one day at a time. I think dealing with Docs is not my cup of Tea so you might want to talk with others. Maybe others on here can help how to navigate pay to play. The Docs got hired years ago to take something small to something big and boy did they. They took club soccer from one flight to four flights and leagues everywhere and everyone can be Elite now if you pay to play. That is what I'm trying to say. Some even pay with their conscious and have to go to bed knowing their dd played over the other kids because they paid more to see their kids play. You need to find a coach who charges for coaching only and not play time or "extra privates" to show how much your willing to pay along the way. This is where my big rub comes from and I piss off the Docs making all the money. Plus many of them manipulate young females and not so smart parents like me and I don;t like that. Listen to this Doc and read what he is saying. "You better pay minimum of $4,000 dumb dumb dad because paying to play is good for me. Pay more, and I will hook you up with play time and deals on the other side. I am the way and all things come through me. If you try to leave as a 15 or 16 year old for a safer place, then I email the colleges coaches and say I can;t recommend this player anymore because their not willing to pay what it takes to play at the next level." Something like that.
 
crush said:
PM me after June 5th and I will share more. Best advice: Find a good coach at a club and take it one day at a time. I think dealing with Docs is not my cup of Tea so you might want to talk with others. Maybe others on here can help how to navigate pay to play. The Docs got hired years ago to take something small to something big and boy did they. They took club soccer from one flight to four flights and leagues everywhere and everyone can be Elite now if you pay to play. That is what I'm trying to say. Some even pay with their conscious and have to go to bed knowing their dd played over the other kids because they paid more to see their kids play. You need to find a coach who charges for coaching only and not play time or "extra privates" to show how much your willing to pay along the way. This is where my big rub comes from and I piss off the Docs making all the money. Plus many of them manipulate young females and not so smart parents like me and I don;t like that. Listen to this Doc and read what he is saying. "You better pay minimum of $4,000 dumb dumb dad because paying to play is good for me. Pay more, and I will hook you up with play time and deals on the other side. I am the way and all things come through me. If you try to leave as a 15 or 16 year old for a safer place, then I email the colleges coaches and say I can;t recommend this player anymore because their not willing to pay what it takes to play at the next level." Something like that.
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lol, Yep, that sounds about right.
 
crush said:
PM me after June 5th and I will share more. Best advice: Find a good coach at a club and take it one day at a time. I think dealing with Docs is not my cup of Tea so you might want to talk with others. Maybe others on here can help how to navigate pay to play. The Docs got hired years ago to take something small to something big and boy did they. They took club soccer from one flight to four flights and leagues everywhere and everyone can be Elite now if you pay to play. That is what I'm trying to say. Some even pay with their conscious and have to go to bed knowing their dd played over the other kids because they paid more to see their kids play. You need to find a coach who charges for coaching only and not play time or "extra privates" to show how much your willing to pay along the way. This is where my big rub comes from and I piss off the Docs making all the money. Plus many of them manipulate young females and not so smart parents like me and I don;t like that. Listen to this Doc and read what he is saying. "You better pay minimum of $4,000 dumb dumb dad because paying to play is good for me. Pay more, and I will hook you up with play time and deals on the other side. I am the way and all things come through me. If you try to leave as a 15 or 16 year old for a safer place, then I email the colleges coaches and say I can;t recommend this player anymore because their not willing to pay what it takes to play at the next level." Something like that.
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lol trying to ip ban me. crush every time I check this site you are online. What are you doing with your free time. Probably should spend time with your daughter instead of wasting your life on a soccer forum
 
paytoplayisgood said:
lol trying to ip ban me. crush every time I check this site you are online. What are you doing with your free time. Probably should spend time with your daughter instead of wasting your life on a soccer forum
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Chilling at the beach with my wife. I work from my smart phone. It makes me a living and I am so grateful. My dd just had her last day of school and its time for her to celebrate. We will talk tomorrow for dad and dd bagel shack. I feel like a successful father. The 2022s had it hard Doc and I will be gone posting publicy after Jume 5th. I got so many PMs of love today and 95% are positve. 4 years ago, 95% was hate filled with assholes treatening me and telling me ti SFTU or else. You want $4,000 from a single mom who makes $80,000 a year. Thats 5% of her income. Plus privates for play time. Bring the price down coach
 
Aliso Beach right now coach of paytoplayisgood for me, the Doc. My phone is so smart it takes pictures, keeps all texts ans emails from the last 6 years and allows me to work from anywhere, like the beach.
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crush said:
Chilling at the beach with my wife. I work from my smart phone. It makes me a living and I am so grateful. My dd just had her last day of school and its time for her to celebrate. We will talk tomorrow for dad and dd bagel shack. I feel like a successful father. The 2022s had it hard Doc and I will be gone posting publicy after Jume 5th. I got so many PMs of love today and 95% are positve. 4 years ago, 95% was hate filled with assholes treatening me and telling me ti SFTU or else. You want $4,000 from a single mom who makes $80,000 a year. Thats 5% of her income. Plus privates for play time. Bring the price down coach
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I need money. im actually considering raising our club fees as the parents will still pay to be on our club. DPL fees will go up by 500. ga fees will go up by 1k most likely. Non ga dpl fees will go up 300 dollars. why would you be on your phone at the beach?
 
paytoplayisgood said:
I need money.
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Yes, I understand you need money. $4,000 a year to join your team, right? How much do you charge for privates? My phone is my office. It follows me everywhere. It pings me a certain song when I get a PM. I love PMs and the information I'm getting is worth gold. Trust me, no one wants to deal with Docs like you.
 
crush said:
Yes, I understand you need money. $4,000 a year to join your team, right? How much do you charge for privates? My phone is my office. It follows me everywhere. It pings me a certain song when I get a PM. I love PMs and the information I'm getting is worth gold. Trust me, no one wants to deal with Docs like you.
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I have 4 parents currently that have paid 6500 a year for a guarantee of their daughter starting minimum half of the games
 
paytoplayisgood said:
I have 4 parents currently that have paid 6500 a year for a guarantee of their daughter starting minimum half of the games
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Fair enough. Thanks for being honest. I heard about some parents willing to pay a premium for premium starts. What about guarantee position, is that extra?
 
crush said:
Fair enough. Thanks for being honest. I heard about some parents willing to pay a premium for premium starts. What about guarantee position, is that extra?
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there was 1 girl who wasn't very good in a younger age group that the parents offered to pay more for a spot on the ga team but I rejected it since word got out to the other parents.
 
I cant decide if payforplayisgood is for real or some parent trolling everyone.

If real they're ethically corrupt + shouldn't be around children / youth sports. Pay for play is bad enough but everytime you accept a bribe for playtime or position one undeserving player is promoted and one deserving player is demoted.

This is exactly why a country the size of the US cant get a USMNT together to beat tiny often 3rd world countries.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
I cant decide if payforplayisgood is for real or some parent trolling everyone.

If real they're ethically corrupt + shouldn't be around children / youth sports. Pay for play is bad enough but everytime you accept a bribe for playtime or position one undeserving player is promoted and one deserving player is demoted.

This is exactly why a country the size of the US cant get a USMNT together to beat tiny often 3rd world countries.
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He sounds real and sounds like a Doc I dealt with. Not American in "moo." That's what "pay to play" means in DA States. I lived it and watched it before me very eyes. That's why they call me a "bum", "dumb dumb", "full of bullshit" "on meds" "talks in the third person" "had multiple avatars" "Coo Coo" "go spend more time with your 18 year old dd who is flying out of my nest". I can go on and on. This paytoplayisgood Doc has no kids and is clueless. What he should say is, "go spend more time with your wife." That would make more sense and I would agree and that is a big reason I'm leaving. Plus both of her parents have Alzheimer's and it only gets worse and they need our help and help is on the way. I had one Doc test my dd and her ethics with the US Training Center. He picked the wrong girl and family to pull some monkey business. Look, I am the most competitive dude around. I'm so competitive and old school, I have to win fair and square or lose and learn the right way. I think paying to be on the team and paying extra to get minutes and paying to start 25% of the best of the best games with the best players ever assembled in a league is what the rich are all about. Plus, if you donate to the club, buy a thousand golf balls, go to all the camps and do privates, then you to will be developed as a "pay to play" player I should be able to express my dislike about the "pay to be on the team" "pay to play" "pay to play more" "pay even more and get?" Look, not every Doc collects money like this to make his living or play in the game he coaches, but that is so messed up for the other kids. I had a dad tell me about this and I saw with my own eyes.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
I cant decide if payforplayisgood is for real or some parent trolling everyone.

If real they're ethically corrupt + shouldn't be around children / youth sports. Pay for play is bad enough but everytime you accept a bribe for playtime or position one undeserving player is promoted and one deserving player is demoted.

This is exactly why a country the size of the US cant get a USMNT together to beat tiny often 3rd world countries.
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The account was created last Sunday. There have been 14 messages posted from that account, all in this thread.

I suspect a troll.
 
Back to the OP. Paying a great coach and playing on a team is not a waste of time or money, regardless of age. 9-13 is prime time for girls. its the best time for girls to play. Paying the coach some side hustle and kissing his ass all season is what has must of us in a hissy. We all see it and it's called cheating where I come from or paying a middleman to cheat on behalf of your child. Look, we all get lucky sometimes but this pay to play, pay and stay so you can play and pay extra to play in the game is for the birds and is actually teaching our kids that it if you pay enough, you can play.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
I cant decide if payforplayisgood is for real or some parent trolling everyone.

If real they're ethically corrupt + shouldn't be around children / youth sports. Pay for play is bad enough but everytime you accept a bribe for playtime or position one undeserving player is promoted and one deserving player is demoted.

This is exactly why a country the size of the US cant get a USMNT together to beat tiny often 3rd world countries.
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Definitely a troll and definitely the same person as has been trolling under different account names since I've been on this site. Just click on his/her name and then click "ignore" It works like a charm. Life is too short.
 
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