Interesting letter from SoCal League, re referee issues

[Grace T.]

I watch the EPL constantly and there's no hesitation to call a foul in the middle of the field if there's a hard jersey grab and it's nowhere near a clear breakaway or shot on goal. Simply a player stopping a counter attack. It does get called and frequently earns a yellow. It's not what I would consider "serious" as in an injury risk but it's 101% deliberate.

“Hard” is doing a lot of work there.

In any case it’s likely a yellow for spa (if not red for dogso) which they do look out for, rather than reckless or serious foul play cards. You can’t have spa or dogso on a corner, nor on a corner can you call an ordinary non misconduct foul without the ball being in play.

 

[Carlsbad7]

Refs are illegal immigrants and getting exploited? LOL

If a business cant exist without illegal immigrant labor multiple groups are being exploited. Citizens wages are being exploited via lower rates paid to illegals. In general citizens social services networks are being exploited because taxes arent being paid on wages. Illegals are being exploited because they have no other options to make money. The exploitation part comes in because illegals wouldn't choose to make less money than citizens if they had other options.

This is just another example of soccer choosing to do something that enables poor business practices. Participants refuse to change in ways what would enable more ethical business practices. They then pretend things cant be changed yet I showed multiple ways to do this.

Read this book. It will open your eyes. It doesn't specifically call out the ethical issues around hiring illegals. But it does cover business ethics in a youth soccer club context and the writing is pretty good.

Stephen Griffin - Youth Sports, Fraud, Business Ethics

Front Row Seat: Greed and Corruption in a Youth Sports Company explores business ethics; accounting and legal matters; and the author's own path to redemption.

stephengriffinauthor.com

 

[Slobodan]

“Hard” is doing a lot of work there.

In any case it’s likely a yellow for spa (if not red for dogso) which they do look out for, rather than reckless or serious foul play cards. You can’t have spa or dogso on a corner, nor on a corner can you call an ordinary non misconduct foul without the ball being in play.

A lot of work? Grace, there are jersey grabs to slow and there are jersey grabs to stop. We all know them when we see them.

I would argue wrapping your arms around a forward, on a corner kick, is MORE than a SPA. Doesn't matter if the ball is in play or not.

 

[Carlsbad7]

A lot of work? Grace, there are jersey grabs to slow and there are jersey grabs to stop. We all know them when we see them.

I would argue wrapping your arms around a forward, on a corner kick, is MORE than a SPA. Doesn't matter if the ball is in play or not.

If a team knows that their opponent is going to grab players jerseys why let the jerseys be grab-able?

In American football lineman jerseys are skin tight specifically so opponents cant grab them.

I know the answer is skin tight jerseys wouldn't look cool in soccer. Which is why teams dont have them. Just pointing out another hypocrisy in soccer that keeps everyone complaining but nothing really changes.

 

[Jamisfoes]

Yes, they most certainly do:
https://www.ayso1ref.com/aysoussf/
https://www.aysovolunteers.org/forms-referee-administration/

It goes the other way too. AYSO ref is recognized by Cal South.

 

[Jamisfoes]

If a team knows that their opponent is going to grab players jerseys why let the jerseys be grab-able?

In American football lineman jerseys are skin tight specifically so opponents cant grab them.

I know the answer is skin tight jerseys wouldn't look cool in soccer. Which is why teams dont have them. Just pointing out another hypocrisy in soccer that keeps everyone complaining but nothing really changes.

I would make jerseys very easy to rip and have a policy that parents are responsible to pay for a replacement. That will stop jersey grabbing very quickly.

 

[rainbow_unicorn]

If a business cant exist without illegal immigrant labor multiple groups are being exploited. Citizens wages are being exploited via lower rates paid to illegals. In general citizens social services networks are being exploited because taxes arent being paid on wages. Illegals are being exploited because they have no other options to make money. The exploitation part comes in because illegals wouldn't choose to make less money than citizens if they had other options.

This is just another example of soccer choosing to do something that enables poor business practices. Participants refuse to change in ways what would enable more ethical business practices. They then pretend things cant be changed yet I showed multiple ways to do this.

Read this book. It will open your eyes. It doesn't specifically call out the ethical issues around hiring illegals. But it does cover business ethics in a youth soccer club context and the writing is pretty good.

Stephen Griffin - Youth Sports, Fraud, Business Ethics

Front Row Seat: Greed and Corruption in a Youth Sports Company explores business ethics; accounting and legal matters; and the author's own path to redemption.

stephengriffinauthor.com

Maybe you should focus more on your kids development

 

[Carlsbad7]

Maybe you should focus more on your kids development

Hahaha this is your response

 

[Slobodan]

If a team knows that their opponent is going to grab players jerseys why let the jerseys be grab-able?

In American football lineman jerseys are skin tight specifically so opponents cant grab them.

I know the answer is skin tight jerseys wouldn't look cool in soccer. Which is why teams dont have them. Just pointing out another hypocrisy in soccer that keeps everyone complaining but nothing really changes.

Skin tight jerseys on soccer players would look a helluva lot better than offensive lineman. But on things like corners, where you're allowing arms wrapped around a striker, that needs to stop and stop now.

They're a lot more snug than they used to be.