Wrong. Tony Ornato is the one that allegedly told her the story (although he denies it). Ornato is not SS. I haven't seen any evidence that the committee will call any rebuttal witnesses. Their is plenty of real evidence to skewer Trump on without some testifying to a rumor. The whole process looks corrupt when you rely on hearsay instead of first hand accounts that are readily available. Just the facts ma'am.
Insurrection hearings
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Hüsker Dü
DA
Those in the room at that point were only the most ardent and thoroughly vetted trump loyalist (those with knee pads). Those type don’t talk . . . until they get kicked to the curb as the defamation campaign begins.
And Ornato was not in the car with Trump. So her account is 3rd hand.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Trump has shown us who he is for decades. As far as those who wish to believe different, that is on them. He’s the same guy, being president only made it worse.
That's why its unnecessary to use 3rd hand accounts and prohibit rebuttal witnesses. It undermines the substantive evidence and the credibility of the hearings when you rely on rumor and 3rd hand reports.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Don’t worry Trump isn’t going to jail. The wealthy and connected hardly ever do. Trump will continue his battle against the “cabal”, the “liberal media” and “the storm” is still on the horizon!
Not my point, but it seems like a waste if a criminal referral doesn't come out of this. If the point of the hearings is that Trump is a bad dude I don't think it has changed anyone's opinion either way based upon the manner in which the hearings have been conducted (ie trying him in a Court of Public Opinion). It would have been much less divisive and more productive if they just turned their findings over to the FBI.
thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
Adam " Espola " Schiff posts his own directive.
thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
You possibly will.
thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
Absolutely impossible to do what that LIAR stated through " Hearsay " yesterday.
Desert Hound
DA
We don't allow hearsay testimony in court for a very good reason. It is unreliable.
If the committee had good evidence of something they would not push out crap like this. Further in their hearing there was no cross of this person.
And no espola it is now not up to the agents to testify.
If this were not a dog and pony show, the committee should have verified the testimony of this person before airing it as evidence.
They are proceeding in a manner of a kangaroo court.
I know you may like predetermined outcomes, but most people prefer a fair and open process.
And more importantly it is amazing this is the D focus. A crap load of economic issues that they are not doing anything about, but prefer to spend time on someone who has been out of office for 18 months. This is why Nov will not be kind to the Ds. They fiddle while Rome burns.
If the committee had good evidence of something they would not push out crap like this. Further in their hearing there was no cross of this person.
And no espola it is now not up to the agents to testify.
If this were not a dog and pony show, the committee should have verified the testimony of this person before airing it as evidence.
They are proceeding in a manner of a kangaroo court.
I know you may like predetermined outcomes, but most people prefer a fair and open process.
And more importantly it is amazing this is the D focus. A crap load of economic issues that they are not doing anything about, but prefer to spend time on someone who has been out of office for 18 months. This is why Nov will not be kind to the Ds. They fiddle while Rome burns.
The hits just keep coming.
Trump lawyer insists Cassidy Hutchinson did NOT write handwritten note
Donald Trump's ex-lawyer Eric Herschmann said he penned the note that Cassidy Hutchinson said she wrote on January 6, which was shown as evidence during Tuesday's explosive hearing.
Just FYI she testified that this happened in the Beast limo which apparently wasn't in service that day. Apparently they were in a SUV that didn't have partitions. Nevertheless, this is an easy issue to resolve. Just let the SS agents that were there testify. If the committee doesn't do that its clear proof of a dog and pony show that's not interested in the truth.
Happened again
SILVER ELITE
pretty good take - the same goes for the current resident...a bit more degraded (physically and mentally) and a lot more harmful to the average American. hate as you want on trumpy, most were better off then than now, mean tweets from the toilet and all.
trumpy is who he is, many were hoping he would at least show 5% presidential attributes that could carry him through. Still turned out to be a clown...with that said, less of a clown than the current degraded clown sitting in the chair, surrounded by other clowns.
Hüsker Dü
DA
You underestimate the damage Trump did. One must dig past the on the surface, transactional images portrayed. Do you think the Trump tax plan, his insistence on keeping the interest rate low, his tariffs/“trade war”, coupled with his market manipulation helped get us where we are now? All his fault? Of course not. Culpability?
Happened again
SILVER ELITE
You make everything about trump, silly goose. Please do your homework before you talk about stuff like this. Do tax cuts drive inflation? Did corporate investement increase as a result of corporate tax reduction? Did multinational companies choose to invest in the US vs offshore as a result of tax relief? did wages rise higher than inflation? geez.....not everything is your boogerman's fault. Cutting tarriffs now would help, but we aren't doing it from a position of power. Why weren't they lifted immedietedly?
was your boogerman a knucklehead? sure. The current senior citizen in power is incapable of not being a hollow politician and doesn't understand how to govern. He's used sitting on the senate floor and debating stuff. At least he has cue cards now I guess.
Anyway, in 10 years you will be blaming trumpy boy for your problems. I was just in your state, sucks to own a gas car. The weather was lovely though, which is a great thing - central coast is the real deal, except for gas prices.
fourteenknots
BRONZE
The very idea that our president acted so irresponsibly against his secret service agents is ludicrous.
Of course it didn’t happen.
It’s not like he knew the proud patriots on the Ellipse were armed with deadly weapons and were waiting for his command to storm the Capitol. Now if THAT were true, I’d be the first to call for his indictment.
Espola and Husker also pushed "Trump the Chump" peed on people in Moscow. I don't have time to go back and read all their BS but karma is coming. What a time to be alive. I am the healthiest I have ever been in. I got sick for one day the other day. First time in a very long time a fel a head cold and aches in my head. Zink and sunlight and lot's of water healed me. @everyone on here at the forum. Take the SNL actor at his word and do not go for more juice.