High School Forfeits

[Carlsbad7]

FWIW this is being messaged to the community as a grade eligibility issue, not an MLSN player.

Looks like you need to be 19 before June 15th for Junior and Senior teams and 17 before Aug 31st for Freshman and Sophmore teams. But there's lots of waivers.

Either way this would translate into a player being over 3-4 years older than the youngest player per grade if someone was cheating

 

[MochaRulz]

Looks like you need to be 19 before June 15th for Junior and Senior teams and 17 before Aug 31st for Freshman and Sophmore teams. But there's lots of waivers.

Either way this would translate into a player being over 3-4 years older than the youngest player per grade if someone was cheating

The eligibility issue was related to grades not age.

Administrative Error Forces San Diego County High School Boys Soccer Team To Forfeit State Playoff Game And Championship

Bonita Vista High School’s boys varsity soccer team has been forced to forfeit its CIF State playoff game and surrender its San Diego Section champion

www.sandiegoville.com

 

[Grace T.]

Eric reports Chatsworth forfeits due to ineligible player (outside league). Irvine University moves onto the regional final by default.

 

[FutsalIsFurReal]

My son's school has some MLSN players who just didn't play HS soccer. I assume that's the case for most players in that situation.

On a related note, I don't see why teams below Varsity (and especially Frosh teams) don't just forfeit all their games up-front, play the games anyway, and let their kids practice/play externally also. The season results don't matter for anything (no playoffs, and Frosh game results aren't even tracked anywhere in my son's school case); there's no good reason to prevent those kids from playing externally during the HS season, if the official results of the games don't matter for anything. It's only Varsity where the results matter at all, for playoffs and school rankings, and such.

Because it would be unethical...something that never stopped you, of course. Dusting off your old "pre-forfeit" scam. You'll always be con artist, but at least now everyone knows.

 

[espola]

My son's school has some MLSN players who just didn't play HS soccer. I assume that's the case for most players in that situation.

On a related note, I don't see why teams below Varsity (and especially Frosh teams) don't just forfeit all their games up-front, play the games anyway, and let their kids practice/play externally also. The season results don't matter for anything (no playoffs, and Frosh game results aren't even tracked anywhere in my son's school case); there's no good reason to prevent those kids from playing externally during the HS season, if the official results of the games don't matter for anything. It's only Varsity where the results matter at all, for playoffs and school rankings, and such.

If a game is forfeited in advance, there might be some difficulty getting referees for the game.

 

[sigmabody]

If a game is forfeited in advance, there might be some difficulty getting referees for the game.

That's a reasonable point; there might be some logistical complications. My thought was just that it seems silly in some cases to "lock out" players from playing externally during the whole season, particularly in cases where they are playing for a team where the results have no meaning or consequence (and aren't even recorded, in some cases), and where the actual practice/game schedule is substantially shorter than the whole season.

As an example, my son's HS Frosh team played 5 games (total), ended their practices and season about a month before the last day of competition (which is even before playoffs), and basically had a month and a half of nothing, when the club team was still on HS season break and not practicing. Meanwhile a same-age club team, with non-HS players, was still participating in a winter league, practicing, and playing games. While I think there was value in the HS team experience, I also think it would benefit the kids more if they could not worry about playing club games also during the season, with the up-front understanding that since the HS team results are immaterial, forfeiting on paper (maybe after the game is played) would be totally fine. That would seem to allow the best opportunities for the kids, at least.

 

[Carlsbad7]

I can tell you exactly why you cant play scheduled games (more than one in a row aka "friendlies"). When theres no repercussions for players actions, what are you going to do? Double kick them out? There has to be something that players want in the future that keeps current behavior in check.

I always liked this scene. Its something every guy can relate to.