Girls Development Academy

NoGoal said:
Good read for the ulittle parents.
http://www.soccerwire.com/blog-posts/games-thrones-ecnl-vs-girls-development-academy-cold-war-rages/

Let the battle for the almighty club dollar begin!
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Instead of working together ussf (DA) , usclub (ecnl) , and usys (cal south) are competing against each other for the same "elite" pool of player in their own separate "elite" leagues with different philosophies and players mandates.

I'm not sure how any of this benefits players. parents and clubs taking sides about which is the better league. #Local problems of the privileged few

All the above orgs are closed systems without promotion or regulations that heavily they favor the establishment over everything else.

The smaller grassroots community clubs have little or no chance to get in so they struggle to retain players after a certain age.

If the established clubs don't perform or develop players they still retain membership in these leagues, the auditing that is supposed to be done for both ussf and usclub is sorely lacking or not good enough.

Having another "elite" league doesn't improve the quality or style of play. parents might be happier because they think that membership gets them something...

Better coaching, technical training, and more competitive play are what players need and these league might help in that area but the top down approach leaves a lot of players out of the equation and that's what needs to change.
 
younothat said:
Instead of working together ussf (DA) , usclub (ecnl) , and usys (cal south) are competing against each other for the same "elite" pool of player in their own separate "elite" leagues with different philosophies and players mandates.

I'm not sure how any of this benefits players. parents and clubs taking sides about which is the better league. #Local problems of the privileged few

All the above orgs are closed systems without promotion or regulations that heavily they favor the establishment over everything else.

The smaller grassroots community clubs have little or no chance to get in so they struggle to retain players after a certain age.

If the established clubs don't perform or develop players they still retain membership in these leagues, the auditing that is supposed to be done for both ussf and usclub is sorely lacking or not good enough.

Having another "elite" league doesn't improve the quality or style of play. parents might be happier because they think that membership gets them something...

Better coaching, technical training, and more competitive play are what players need and these league might help in that area but the top down approach leaves a lot of players out of the equation and that's what needs to change.
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While I would agree with much of what you say, you are incorrect in characterizing USYS/Calsouth as a closed system. Their tournaments (state/national cup) are open, and primary leagues (CRL/National League) are structured so any team can qualify or earn an invitation to participate in play-ins. There is subjectivitiy in the annual invites, but it is not closed.

While all three groups are guilty of hubris, and to often equate what is best for them as being what is best for youth soccer, what U.S. Club Soccer (ECNL) and U.S. Soccer (DA) take to another level is their desire to close the system and pick the winners.

I applaud U.S. Soccer for focusing on improving coaching standards, advocating player technical development at younger ages, as well as trying to make elite soccer more accessible by lowering the cost through needs based scholarships. However, I am not a big fan of them wanting to control and limit competition. Creativity and innovation are more often born in small start-ups than within a large entity, where challenging the status quo is rarely encouraged nor rewarded.
 
MakeAPlay said:
All of the NorCal ECNL clubs pulled out of the DA. In NorCal it is going to be a bunch of less successful clubs (other than PSV Union) leading development. What a crazy turf war.[/
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younothat said:
Instead of working together ussf (DA) , usclub (ecnl) , and usys (cal south) are competing against each other for the same "elite" pool of player in their own separate "elite" leagues with different philosophies and players mandates.

I'm not sure how any of this benefits players. parents and clubs taking sides about which is the better league. #Local problems of the privileged few

All the above orgs are closed systems without promotion or regulations that heavily they favor the establishment over everything else.

The smaller grassroots community clubs have little or no chance to get in so they struggle to retain players after a certain age.

If the established clubs don't perform or develop players they still retain membership in these leagues, the auditing that is supposed to be done for both ussf and usclub is sorely lacking or not good enough.

Having another "elite" league doesn't improve the quality or style of play. parents might be happier because they think that membership gets them something...

Better coaching, technical training, and more competitive play are what players need and these league might help in that area but the top down approach leaves a lot of players out of the equation and that's what needs to change.
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Unothat, I submit that GDA does have promotion and relegation.

The non-ECNL clubs that are "in" have been promoted to the most elite level available in the country. Clubs like Beach, Legends, Pats, LAPFC have been promoted de facto...

Also GDA has relegated some clubs...the ECNL clubs that were not invited to GDA have been relegated de facto as well...

Since clubs can apply to GDA it seems that from time to time clubs may be included and excluded based upon results and the financial fitness of the applicants...just speculation on my part but their platform seems to allow for promotion and culling in a way that was not so clear w the ECNL oligopoly...
 
soccerobserver said:
Unothat, I submit that GDA does have promotion and relegation.

The non-ECNL clubs that are "in" have been promoted to the most elite level available in the country. Clubs like Beach, Legends, Pats, LAPFC have been promoted de facto...

Also GDA has relegated some clubs...the ECNL clubs that were not invited to GDA have been relegated de facto as well...

Since clubs can apply to GDA it seems that from time to time clubs may be included and excluded based upon results and the financial fitness of the applicants...just speculation on my part but their platform seems to allow for promotion and culling in a way that was not so clear w ECNL...
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How many Boys DA clubs have been demoted? The director of the Boys DA is running things on the girls side too. I think that the number will shock you.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
How did ECNL develop your daughter? Surf is a great club with some real good coaches that I am sure developed your daughter; but, what did ECNL do other than provide the competition platform? I am trying to be educated in what ECNL offers - no lies just questions and observations.
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Who said that my daughter was developed by Surf?
 
MakeAPlay said:
Nice try. My daughter would disagree with you but okay. You are right ECNL did little it was all magic.
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My honest belief is Strikers and/or Surf did it. I think ECNL just gave the competitive platform. I am trying to be educated, not troll. What did ECNL specifically do? They have no minimum coaching standards etc. correct? If you know something please share...
 
LadiesMan217 said:
My honest belief is Strikers and/or Surf did it. I think ECNL just gave the competitive platform. I am trying to be educated, not troll. What did ECNL specifically do? They have no minimum coaching standards etc. correct? If you know something please share...
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It seems like playing with and against top talent would develop a player.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
My honest belief is Strikers and/or Surf did it. I think ECNL just gave the competitive platform. I am trying to be educated, not troll. What did ECNL specifically do? They have no minimum coaching standards etc. correct? If you know something please share...
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The ECNL provided the teammates and competition along with the more motivated and dedicated coaches that pushed my daughter to constantly hone her craft into what it is today. She was motivated to constantly work on improving every aspect of her game and to strive to be the best player on the pitch. The ECNL contained the majority of the elite players in the USA which constantly gave her the ability to measure herself against the best. Her performance in this cauldron focused her not only athletically but also academically (I told her I wouldn't spend the money without her getting straight A's). It developed her time management, it forced her to have to make grown up decisions (I have to skip the dance/movie/whatever because of a game). The ECNL did plenty to develop my player but like any major project it took a village (ECNL, her coaches, her parents, her teammates) in order to get her to where she is today and it will continue to be a group effort to get her to where she wants to go.
 
MakeAPlay said:
The ECNL provided the teammates and competition along with the more motivated and dedicated coaches that pushed my daughter to constantly hone her craft into what it is today. She was motivated to constantly work on improving every aspect of her game and to strive to be the best player on the pitch. The ECNL contained the majority of the elite players in the USA which constantly gave her the ability to measure herself against the best. Her performance in this cauldron focused her not only athletically but also academically (I told her I wouldn't spend the money without her getting straight A's). It developed her time management, it forced her to have to make grown up decisions (I have to skip the dance/movie/whatever because of a game). The ECNL did plenty to develop my player but like any major project it took a village (ECNL, her coaches, her parents, her teammates) in order to get her to where she is today and it will continue to be a group effort to get her to where she wants to go.
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Thanks. I understand your train of thought on how the ECNL developed your DD.
 
MakeAPlay said:
http://www.soccerwire.com/news/club...ademy-adds-17-new-clubs-for-2017-2018-season/

On the boys side there seems to be waaaay too many DA clubs. I see that Rebels was added. You have to seriously wonder if there is enough elite level talent in San Diego to support 5 academy clubs. US soccer talks about developing talent for the national team but the reality is that it is about control and access to a revenue stream. Madoff would be proud.
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Rebels was added at the U12 age group only. There is plenty of talent in San Diego at this level for multiple academy teams. When it comes to the national team recruitment, they aren't recruiting out of the U12 age group. But this does give them control over the development of the players that are coming out of the rebels geographical location, which will eventually feed into the academy clubs that have the age groups that they recruit from.
 
DefenseWins said:
Rebels was added at the U12 age group only. There is plenty of talent in San Diego at this level for multiple academy teams. When it comes to the national team recruitment, they aren't recruiting out of the U12 age group. But this does give them control over the development of the players that are coming out of the rebels geographical location, which will eventually feed into the academy clubs that have the age groups that they recruit from.
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I keep hearing that there is enough talent but I am talking elite level talent. I just am not convinced that there are 90 elite kids in any birth year in all of SoCal. I have a pretty high bar for what I consider elite.
 
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