Girls Development Academy

Mullet said:
Winning a World Cup is what makes one marketable not a NCAA Championship.
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Nope try again. Winning has nothing to do with being marketable. Being marketable is not success driven but rather relies on many other factors in order to monetize. If the act of winning a World Cup was the key than the members of the last two US Soccer teams would all be marketable, and would be financially stable. They are not. Players like Whitney Egen would still be playing and not back in school.
 
Mullet said:
Not for much longer. European clubs are just expanding their pro academy model to the women’s game.

And EVERYTHING is a money grab. We live in a Capitalist society. Bottled water is a money grab.
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Laughable. Some European clubs are just starting to invest some money into pro women’s teams. Not youth. Go talk to the 14 year old in Manchester England and ask her about how much investment there is in her Academy team. Go to Ajax and see how many young girls are training compared to boys sides. You believe to much of what you read.
 
Mullet said:
Yup, and the other college players parlay their college “branding” into a Youth club coaching gig.

The college game is a terrific experience but if a player has serious chops as MP does, then go pro. Frankly she disagrees with yo, as much as she was supportive and hung around when the rubber hit the road she chose development.

And if NWSL is the 3rd worst pro league in the world then College is a distant fourth. We will not stay on top in World Soccer pushing college as a path when Europe isn’t.
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Sorry but my kid will be parlaying her BA degree, Masters, school pedigree (read Alumni) and natty ring for a six figure income after she plays a few years in the pros "for the love of the game" and the experience.
 
Mullet said:
Yup, and the other college players parlay their college “branding” into a Youth club coaching gig.

The college game is a terrific experience but if a player has serious chops as MP does, then go pro. Frankly she disagrees with yo, as much as she was supportive and hung around when the rubber hit the road she chose development.

And if NWSL is the 3rd worst pro league in the world then College is a distant fourth. We will not stay on top in World Soccer pushing college as a path when Europe isn’t.
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The fact you used the words developement and chops is telling.
 
CopaMundial said:
In two instances, it was direct from the DOC to parents from two separate clubs. No one has any power at this point, except USSF. That's as obvious as it gets. I'm just trying to understand their decisions, because it's obvious Lies are told from the top down, that's the only truth out there.
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Ok then, keep having these inside DOC conversations. DOC are always honest they never ever are less than trustworthy, never will they ever say one thing than do the opposite.
 
Nutmeg said:
The fact you used the words developement and chops is telling.
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The fact that you think a pretty stadium means development.

Based on your criteria of what is important the Cowboys should always win the Super Bowl.

The thing is MP agrees with me and not you.

And just let it die because this is severely derailing this thread.
 
Mullet said:
The fact that you think a pretty stadium means development.

Based on your criteria of what is important the Cowboys should always win the Super Bowl.

The thing is MP agrees with me and not you.

And just let it die because this is severely derailing this thread.
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Ok superstar Soccer guy, anything you say. I will let the NWSL players I just left know that you have the insider info on what to do.
 
Nutmeg said:
Ok then, keep having these inside DOC conversations. DOC are always honest they never ever are less than trustworthy, never will they ever say one thing than do the opposite.
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I didn't say DOCs don't lie. I said EVERYONE lies and it starts with USSF and their ever changing mind and ideas of what is supposedly good for the future of the youth soccer landscape in America. All of it at the expense of the players. And these aren't inside DOC conversations. It was general talk and knowledge amongst many clubs that '03 would remain age pure, following the last meeting. If that wasn't the general info given to many clubs, DOCS, coaches, etc., just a few months ago, then we wouldn't all be shocked right now and even discussing it!!! Period.
 
Mullet said:
Yup, and the other college players parlay their college “branding” into a Youth club coaching gig.

The college game is a terrific experience but if a player has serious chops as MP does, then go pro. Frankly she disagrees with yo, as much as she was supportive and hung around when the rubber hit the road she chose development.

And if NWSL is the 3rd worst pro league in the world then College is a distant fourth. We will not stay on top in World Soccer pushing college as a path when Europe isn’t.
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Pugh left UCLA not for the development, but for the money. If you recall, the US WNT players just reworked their USSF player contract last year. Once the new player contract was announced, Pugh announced she was turning pro a week later. Pugh was already on the US WNT, but was not being paid...thus, being college eligible.
 
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Mullet said:
Good. The rest of the world thinks playing soccer in College is silly.

College sports has only proven to be a true developmental platform and pathway for uniquely American sports.
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That’s true for the men’s game. The women’s goes through college soccer. Fleming (Canadian WNT) and many other international players line the women college soccer rosters.
 
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Mullet said:
And I’m sorry but the challenge in college simply isn’t the same. She is practicing with and against National team players from all over.

Who in the college game is even comparable to playing against Marta? Or playing against Marta and Alex Morgan in the same game? Please stop, College is great but MP is far more challenged where she is now. You really should look at the rosters a little more closely.
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Ummmm, have you been watching any women’s college soccer? Obviously you haven’t seen Catarina Macario play at Surf or now at Stanford. Catarina is a Brazilian born player like Marta! Ashley Sanchez and Jessie Fleming at UCLA are both skillful and fun to watch. All 3 will be drafted in the NWSL 1st round.

Alex Morgan, lol....any fast 5’8” forward in the Pac12 or ACC has similar athletic chops as Alex Morgan. Hallie Mace at UCLA comes to mind.

Oh yeah, USC last year had 5 players drafted by the NWSL.
 
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NoGoal said:
Ummmm, have you been watching any women’s college soccer? Obviously you haven’t seen Catarina Macario play at Surf or now at Stanford. Catarina is Brazillian born player like Marta! Ashley Sanchez and Jessie Fleming at UCLA are both skillful and fun to watch. All 3 will be drafted in the NWSL 1st round.

Alex Morgan, lol....any fast 5’8” forward in the Pac12 or ACC has similar athletic chops as Alex Morgan. Hallie Mace at UCLA comes to mind.
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Fleming and Sanchez are fun to watch, but Macario is absolute quality!!! Does anyone know if she will play for the US or Brazil on the National Level going forward?
 
MakeAPlay said:
You cash in on a brand once you have results to back it up. At this point outside of high school she has no results to point to. If you haven't seen little girls lined up to get autographs then you haven't been to a top college game. If you don't think that her game would improve playing at UCLA then you haven't watched them play and I will leave it at that. UCLA lost to the Seattle Reign 3-2 without Pugh, Sanchez or Fleming and they were leading 2-1 with 20 minutes left in the game. I get that you have your opinion but at least WATCH before you say anything. As the saying goes, "God gave us two ears and one mouth for a reason. We should do twice as much listening as talking." I will add that you should watch a team before you comment. If you did you would know that even with her she wasn't going to be the main player on the team and she was far from dominant in training.
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Pretty hard to watch a game that isn’t on TV.
NoGoal said:
Ummmm, have you been watching any women’s college soccer? Obviously you haven’t seen Catarina Macario play at Surf or now at Stanford. Catarina is Brazillian born player like Marta! Ashley Sanchez and Jessie Fleming at UCLA are both skillful and fun to watch. All 3 will be drafted in the NWSL 1st round.

Alex Morgan, lol....any fast 5’8” forward in the Pac12 or ACC has similar athletic chops as Alex Morgan. Hallie Mace at UCLA comes to mind.
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Jesus, nobody watches women’s college soccer. That’s why the idea of “building your brand” by staying in college is ludicrous.
 
Mullet said:
Pretty hard to watch a game that isn’t on TV.
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. It’s not hard....Pac-12 network and ACC ESPN3 app.

Mullet said:
Jesus, nobody watches women’s college soccer. That’s why the idea of “building your brand” by staying in college is ludicrous.
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Building a brand, lol...you are flip-flopping. 1st you say Pugh left, because of development and now it’s for her branding. Which is it?
 
NoGoal said:
. It’s not hard....Pac-12 network and ACC ESPN3 app.


Building a brand, lol...you are flip-flopping. 1st you say Pugh left, because of development and now it’s for her branding. Which is it?
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I’m mocking the building a brand argument. That is not a flip flop
 
NoGoal said:
. It’s not hard....Pac-12 network and ACC ESPN3 app.


Building a brand, lol...you are flip-flopping. 1st you say Pugh left, because of development and now it’s for her branding. Which is it?
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I could also find “Droan Racing” on TV too. I’m glad you guys all love the women’s college game but only alum, friends and family care about it.
 
CopaMundial said:
Fleming and Sanchez are fun to watch, but Macario is absolute quality!!! Does anyone know if she will play for the US or Brazil on the National Level going forward?
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Let me know where my kids can buy their posters. I want to support “the brand” ya know.
 
Nutmeg said:
Your talking about men. For women the top 10 programs in College are a legit platform for most Europeans, south and North American players. The U21 U23 DA talk is a money grab and nothing more. The cost benefit analysis of a college degree vs entry level pro salary is no where close for women players.
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Playing women's pro soccer in the US and getting a college degree are not mutually exclusive. NWSL is not full time - many players have other jobs. You can go to school and play pro, either concurrently or consecutively.

NWSL conditions and pay are just as good as when the NFL and NBA started. Maybe better. We are under the illusion that a newly formed league should operate like other established pro sports in the US when those sports took decades to achieve their popularity and stable finances.
 
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