Girls Development Academy

chargerfan said:
USSDA made a statement to the DA clubs to stop promoting DAII, as it is not sanctioned by USSDA. It doesn't sound like there is any sort of real plan for this league anyways, beyond a few clubs having discussions about it.
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This is correct. As of a phone call on earlier this week DA II died. US Soccer made it very clear they were not supporting it, not sanctioning it and would have no part of it. Think about it, boys DA has been in existence for almost 10 years. If US Soccer wanted a DA II program they would have implemented it on the boys side years ago. Several of the bozos from clubs heavily promoting DA II were whining over it. MD, BR, NG all begged and pleaded because they had promised their families something that never existed. Asking US Soccer "what are we supposed to tell our families now?" US Soccer said "Not our problem you spoke out of turn". These guys are the main offenders of making empty promises thinking they could push US Soccer in to doing what they wanted. Truth be told, they probably chased US Soccer away with all of their ridiculous ideas and requests. They can all be overbearing, whiny and have a strong sense of entitlement for no reason.
I must admit I thought DA II would eventually happen. In fact the clubs wanting DA II are still planning to meet to try and salvage the promises they falsely made. Several problems with this non-existent program....
1. They want a fall/spring league. This means Cal South won't sanction it because it takes the teams out of National Cup. They can't play National Cup and Spring League games, there aren't enough play dates AND this league would conflict directly with CRL which is the feather in Cal South's cap.
2. They could sanction it through US Club but that means no USYS National Cup. Only NPL/US Club Cup (leaves ALOT to be desired).
3. There are no other DA II programs anywhere else so no showcase, no playoffs, no exposure = no motivation for the players or families to buy in to this flat program.
4. So for teams that have a fall/spring league with no hopes of playoffs, National Cup or showcases, what's left?
5. Players won't be registered through US Soccer like the bozo brigade promised so they can't say the are "DA" players. This was always lipstick on a pig anyways. You either ARE or you AREN'T a DA player. Trying to disguise it by calling it DA II league with high school doesn't make you a DA player.
So they are going to try and figure out the escape plan. They will try and figure out how to make it happen but that will be a massive challenge. Honestly, the B team players are better off on the path they are currently on. Play fall league, play high school, play National Cup, qualify in to CRL, play showcase events summer and spring (because now with the DA teams OUT of those events there is more room for the B teams) and work to find the best college showcase opportunities possible. There are plenty of showcases out there where college coaches show up. Playing in a DA II doesn't provide any type of exposure directly from the league so why change the model?
It all boils down to a massive unsubstantiated sales pitch and undeliverable promises by DOC's who are trying to make more $$$ and keep players who don't make DA teams from leaving to go play for other clubs.
It will be interesting to see what the bozo brigade comes up with next.
 
dreamz said:
This is correct. As of a phone call on earlier this week DA II died. US Soccer made it very clear they were not supporting it, not sanctioning it and would have no part of it. Think about it, boys DA has been in existence for almost 10 years. If US Soccer wanted a DA II program they would have implemented it on the boys side years ago. Several of the bozos from clubs heavily promoting DA II were whining over it. MD, BR, NG all begged and pleaded because they had promised their families something that never existed. Asking US Soccer "what are we supposed to tell our families now?" US Soccer said "Not our problem you spoke out of turn". These guys are the main offenders of making empty promises thinking they could push US Soccer in to doing what they wanted. Truth be told, they probably chased US Soccer away with all of their ridiculous ideas and requests. They can all be overbearing, whiny and have a strong sense of entitlement for no reason.
I must admit I thought DA II would eventually happen. In fact the clubs wanting DA II are still planning to meet to try and salvage the promises they falsely made. Several problems with this non-existent program....
1. They want a fall/spring league. This means Cal South won't sanction it because it takes the teams out of National Cup. They can't play National Cup and Spring League games, there aren't enough play dates AND this league would conflict directly with CRL which is the feather in Cal South's cap.
2. They could sanction it through US Club but that means no USYS National Cup. Only NPL/US Club Cup (leaves ALOT to be desired).
3. There are no other DA II programs anywhere else so no showcase, no playoffs, no exposure = no motivation for the players or families to buy in to this flat program.
4. So for teams that have a fall/spring league with no hopes of playoffs, National Cup or showcases, what's left?
5. Players won't be registered through US Soccer like the bozo brigade promised so they can't say the are "DA" players. This was always lipstick on a pig anyways. You either ARE or you AREN'T a DA player. Trying to disguise it by calling it DA II league with high school doesn't make you a DA player.
So they are going to try and figure out the escape plan. They will try and figure out how to make it happen but that will be a massive challenge. Honestly, the B team players are better off on the path they are currently on. Play fall league, play high school, play National Cup, qualify in to CRL, play showcase events summer and spring (because now with the DA teams OUT of those events there is more room for the B teams) and work to find the best college showcase opportunities possible. There are plenty of showcases out there where college coaches show up. Playing in a DA II doesn't provide any type of exposure directly from the league so why change the model?
It all boils down to a massive unsubstantiated sales pitch and undeliverable promises by DOC's who are trying to make more $$$ and keep players who don't make DA teams from leaving to go play for other clubs.
It will be interesting to see what the bozo brigade comes up with next.
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I am consistently amazed at how connected and aware everyone is on this forum. This info doesn't affect me personally but several close friends. At no point has ANY DOC Said this what a shame in the middle of tryout season.
Thank you for taking the time @dreamz
Something tells me some people's cell phones may be ringing a lot today at various clubs
 
dreamz said:
Truth be told, they probably chased US Soccer away with all of their ridiculous ideas and requests.
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While I cannot comment on the veracity of your update, I do disagree with this conjecture. US Soccer is not interested in helping these clubs with their B teams, and you cannot chase away someone who as never there.

Instead of further diluting the competition in Socal by forming yet another new league, why not put their egos aside for a moment, and as a group pick an existing league to compete in? CSL may not work because they would have to earn their bracket placement every year. So go to SCDSL. They helped create and already manage that league, so how about Beach, Legends, RSC and the rest keep their prior SCDSL promises and commitments, instead of doing their best to make it a league full of "C" teams playing 11v11 scrimmages.
 
dreamz said:
This is correct. As of a phone call on earlier this week DA II died. US Soccer made it very clear they were not supporting it, not sanctioning it and would have no part of it. Think about it, boys DA has been in existence for almost 10 years. If US Soccer wanted a DA II program they would have implemented it on the boys side years ago. Several of the bozos from clubs heavily promoting DA II were whining over it. MD, BR, NG all begged and pleaded because they had promised their families something that never existed. Asking US Soccer "what are we supposed to tell our families now?" US Soccer said "Not our problem you spoke out of turn". These guys are the main offenders of making empty promises thinking they could push US Soccer in to doing what they wanted. Truth be told, they probably chased US Soccer away with all of their ridiculous ideas and requests. They can all be overbearing, whiny and have a strong sense of entitlement for no reason.
I must admit I thought DA II would eventually happen. In fact the clubs wanting DA II are still planning to meet to try and salvage the promises they falsely made. Several problems with this non-existent program....
1. They want a fall/spring league. This means Cal South won't sanction it because it takes the teams out of National Cup. They can't play National Cup and Spring League games, there aren't enough play dates AND this league would conflict directly with CRL which is the feather in Cal South's cap.
2. They could sanction it through US Club but that means no USYS National Cup. Only NPL/US Club Cup (leaves ALOT to be desired).
3. There are no other DA II programs anywhere else so no showcase, no playoffs, no exposure = no motivation for the players or families to buy in to this flat program.
4. So for teams that have a fall/spring league with no hopes of playoffs, National Cup or showcases, what's left?
5. Players won't be registered through US Soccer like the bozo brigade promised so they can't say the are "DA" players. This was always lipstick on a pig anyways. You either ARE or you AREN'T a DA player. Trying to disguise it by calling it DA II league with high school doesn't make you a DA player.
So they are going to try and figure out the escape plan. They will try and figure out how to make it happen but that will be a massive challenge. Honestly, the B team players are better off on the path they are currently on. Play fall league, play high school, play National Cup, qualify in to CRL, play showcase events summer and spring (because now with the DA teams OUT of those events there is more room for the B teams) and work to find the best college showcase opportunities possible. There are plenty of showcases out there where college coaches show up. Playing in a DA II doesn't provide any type of exposure directly from the league so why change the model?
It all boils down to a massive unsubstantiated sales pitch and undeliverable promises by DOC's who are trying to make more $$$ and keep players who don't make DA teams from leaving to go play for other clubs.
It will be interesting to see what the bozo brigade comes up with next.
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This is spot on except that it NEVER existed in the first place other than being another acronym for marketing. You even got the lead track suit wearing bozo brigade right but I would put their culpability in the reverse order. NG has been going around acting like the great champion of DA 2 with MD right behind him. Let's see what they say now. Bring on the Kool-aide!
 
Striker17 said:
I am consistently amazed at how connected and aware everyone is on this forum. This info doesn't affect me personally but several close friends. At no point has ANY DOC Said this what a shame in the middle of tryout season.
Thank you for taking the time @dreamz
Something tells me some people's cell phones may be ringing a lot today at various clubs
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Yes Good summary @dreamz. For those of us involved with ussda for a while now we could tell this would be a non-started & the few clubs pushing it where not going about it with the most honorable of attentions.

What amazes me is/was the amount of posters who continued to basically be mouth pieces for clubs since Dec of last year and just blindly repeated information that was not accurate. Next time please do some research or diligent and provide reference material: press releases, links to actual real web sites run by the orgs your refereeing to instead of speculating or repeating adnauseam. I'm sure most had good intentions but if you're going to represent have more respect and accurate real info to give out, when you mislead by accident or not just correct those over-sites, apologize,and move on so people know you have some integrity.
 
younothat said:
Yes Good summary @dreamz. For those of us involved with ussda for a while now we could tell this would be a non-started & the few clubs pushing it where not going about it with the most honorable of attentions.

What amazes me is/was the amount of posters who continued to basically be mouth pieces for clubs since Dec of last year and just blindly repeated information that was not accurate. Next time please do some research or diligent and provide reference material: press releases, links to actual real web sites run by the orgs your refereeing to instead of speculating or repeating adnauseam. I'm sure most had good intentions but if you're going to represent have more respect and accurate real info to give out, when you mislead by accident or not just correct those over-sites, apologize,and move on so people know you have some integrity.
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Thank you! The biggest reason we didn't consider DA was because we weren't getting answers to questions we had. Maybe I am cynical and inquisitive by nature, but there is still a lot that makes me want to sit back and see how it all unfolds before making that commitment. If these DOCs are willing to lie about a made up league, what other lies are telling? Some parents are just like trump followers- believing everything they are told without doing their own research!
 
Striker17 said:
I am consistently amazed at how connected and aware everyone is on this forum. This info doesn't affect me personally but several close friends. At no point has ANY DOC Said this what a shame in the middle of tryout season.
Thank you for taking the time @dreamz
Something tells me some people's cell phones may be ringing a lot today at various clubs
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So unethical
 
dreamz said:
Honestly, the B team players are better off on the path they are currently on. Play fall league, play high school, play National Cup, qualify in to CRL, play showcase events summer and spring (because now with the DA teams OUT of those events there is more room for the B teams) and work to find the best college showcase opportunities possible. There are plenty of showcases out there where college coaches show up. Playing in a DA II doesn't provide any type of exposure directly from the league so why change the model?
It all boils down to a massive unsubstantiated sales pitch and undeliverable promises by DOC's who are trying to make more $$$ and keep players who don't make DA teams from leaving to go play for other clubs.
It will be interesting to see what the bozo brigade comes up with next.
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Girls DA will be the #1 gaming league in SoCal for sure.

There is an option for the B team players though. The girls who don't make a DA roster, should then tryout for an ECNL team. There are few top clubs nationwide (refer to NorCal) who have turned down Girls DA affiliation, meaning ECNL will have A teams in the league still.

They have established college showcases with a playoff system that will still attract college coaches, because Girls DA will not be able to fill all of the college recruiting needs....especially with U15/16 and U17/18 dual age banded teams. If your DD is on the younger side and know she won't play much on the U15/16 age banded team, thus less college exposure. It would be wiser having her play on a ECNL U15 team, start and been seen by college coaches instead.

These clubs probably saw that having dual age bands at U15/16 and U16/17 meant less revenue. Here is why, having 2 separate U15 and U16 A teams with 22 rostered players each = 44 players. Dual age band is only 22 players....thus cutting half of their revenue stream. Girls DAII would have been a good bridge and marketing tool to prevent the players from leaving for ECNL teams.
 
Why isn't US Soccer, if they are so interested in development, taking more control over the coaching at the younger ages. Isn't that when development really happens- u8 to u12? I have seen some really bad coaching at those ages, and a lot of times kickball rules the day because it's easy to coach and can lead to wins.
 
chargerfan said:
Why isn't US Soccer, if they are so interested in development, taking more control over the coaching at the younger ages. Isn't that when development really happens- u8 to u12? I have seen some really bad coaching at those ages, and a lot of times kickball rules the day because it's easy to coach and can lead to wins.
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They care thus the small sided mandates and other things for the ulittles that's been implemented but yeah they could do more with the coaching

The cost of DA is high 2x what normal 2 day a week clubs train & play fall season for so that one other reason.

On the boys side the new 18' SC NPL run by US club has many da clubs in that one and supposedly that's for "B" teams like the EGSL is for girls in the spring. Instead of the CS Nt/St cup they play the usclub playoffs after the spring season ends so maybe that could be a options for the girls b teams: play your normal fall league...transition to EGSL or something like that for spring?
 
chargerfan said:
Thank you! The biggest reason we didn't consider DA was because we weren't getting answers to questions we had. Maybe I am cynical and inquisitive by nature, but there is still a lot that makes me want to sit back and see how it all unfolds before making that commitment. If these DOCs are willing to lie about a made up league, what other lies are telling? Some parents are just like trump followers- believing everything they are told without doing their own research!
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Don't start talking shit on Trump.
 
chargerfan said:
Why isn't US Soccer, if they are so interested in development, taking more control over the coaching at the younger ages. Isn't that when development really happens- u8 to u12? I have seen some really bad coaching at those ages, and a lot of times kickball rules the day because it's easy to coach and can lead to wins.
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What makes you think they're interested in development? Have you watched the USWNT in the last few years? Elite level kickball. Don't be fooled by the badge. US Soccer wouldn't know a development pathway if it was presented on national TV in a gift wrapped box.
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
What makes you think they're interested in development? Have you watched the USWNT in the last few years? Elite level kickball. Don't be fooled by the badge. US Soccer wouldn't know a development pathway if it was presented on national TV in a gift wrapped box.
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I was kinda trying to make the point that if they were actually interested in development, they would get involved at ulittles. I tend to agree with everything you are saying.
 
bababooey said:
Pooka: you bring up a good question about GDA in an area that is underserved. Think about it from US Soccer's standpoint....is it better to offer multiple organizations the GDA program in So Cal where there are multitudes of players and coaches along with a history of producing star players or try to offer GDA in all locations? In an ideal world, there would be a GDA club within 15 miles of every female soccer player in America, but that is not going to happen. Let's be honest, ECNL was not serving all of the U.S. either. There are many parts of the U.S. where a female soccer player would have to travel great distance to get to an ECNL club.

As for So Cal embracing GDA, did you expect anything different? It is the shiny new toy in the soccer landscape. That alone will spark a lot of interest. But, it will be paramount for the GDA to produce results like ECNL did since its inception to keep the "elite" players and their parents interested in the product. I suspect the marketing tactic of getting girls to the YNT teams easier will work for many players and parents.
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Hey sorry I haven't been on in a while. The difference is although ECNL wasn't in every city, you could still discovery play if parents were willing to drive. DA has cut that. So my kid ( who has played with or against every elite 03 in socal, in several formats, and can and should remain with that group) is now shut out. That's my issue. Or it was. I e since gotten over it lol. My DD looked at our options and made a choice. I'm lucky she'll be an 8th grader next year so we can see how this all shakes out.
 
chargerfan said:
Thank you! The biggest reason we didn't consider DA was because we weren't getting answers to questions we had. Maybe I am cynical and inquisitive by nature, but there is still a lot that makes me want to sit back and see how it all unfolds before making that commitment. If these DOCs are willing to lie about a made up league, what other lies are telling? Some parents are just like trump followers- believing everything they are told without doing their own research!
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