Girls Development Academy

[Kicker4Life]

Baba- You cannot see the forest through the trees. Your dd did NOT join a DA II team. It never existed. It was just marketing, especially by one track suit wearing coach in particular to get more $$. For your club to promise you DA II was a lie, unethical and completely lacks integrity.

You are right that we should all focus on the coach and training. But to get here you need to have trust in the club. How could you trust a coach at a club that made you a false promise? What do all the girls do that were on the bubble of the DA I team but opted for DA II to get playing time. Now they are squeezed out. If my dd was not already in HS and did not make DA I, I would find the best coach regardless of level and sit this year out while they filter through the garbage. As other posters have said, the time could be spent on privates. Remember people, integrity matters, at least for some of us.

So then tell me....what is the difference between labeling a Team DAII versus Reserve? What about the use of Pre-ECNL? What if the best Coaching environment is a team labeled DAII, should we avoid it because of he nomenclature?

Our club has a DAII team and was straight forward about the status of the proposed DAII league. I would have to say that it is only a false promise if a promise was made.

I will agree that there is more to be looked at when making a decision about playing for a team than the suffix attached to it.

 

[LadiesMan217]

No I don't work for ENCL and actually like DA. It was good for my family and DA is not the one putting out this garbage.

I work for my kids finding the best fit, where they will be happy, healthy and thrive. Dishonesty is a huge red flag to me.

And while I am not a fan of some things Surf has done lately, they did not make the false DA II promise since they already have ENCL. They probably could have recruited more players with a DA II, but did not. They at least limit the number of teams in each age group.

Which club(s) made a false DA II promise and what was promised that was false?

 

[chargerfan]

Which club(s) made a false DA II promise and what was promised that was false?

I was looking through the DA material various clubs have posted to see exactly what was promised. One thing that really stood out is that there is no mandate for DA coaches to have a least a B license until 2021. That's 4 years from now!

 

[LadiesMan217]

I was looking through the DA material various clubs have posted to see exactly what was promised. One thing that really stood out is that there is no mandate for DA coaches to have a least a B license until 2021. That's 4 years from now!

Yeah, the B license thing until 2021 caught me off guard because US Soccer is (or was) saying otherwise. The Internet of Lies.

 

[Real Deal]

Um still looking for that ECNL club in the Westside/South Bay and/or mid-city LA area....
Come on ECNL! You'd have instant revenue with the kids who don't want the DA restrictions, even before you factor in DAII (aka SCDSL flight 1 as the case may end up being).

 

[LadiesMan217]

www.usdaii.com is dark right now (was up a few days ago). LAGSD marketing guy is the owner of the domain .

 

[Kicker4Life]

Um still looking for that ECNL club in the Westside/South Bay and/or mid-city LA area....
Come on ECNL! You'd have instant revenue with the kids who don't want the DA restrictions, even before you factor in DAII (aka SCDSL flight 1 as the case may end up being).

That would be an astute move by ECNL if they have indeed revoked EAGLES AND RSC's status as posted on another thread.

 

[NoGoal]

The game is evolving. How can you not see that? The time where any team can be extremely dominant like we were is coming to an end, and tbh, for the good of women's soccer. Because, even in the men's game, which had years and years to evolve and grow stronger before the women's game was even invented, there are no teams that are extremely dominant and never expected to win. ANY team can lost. That's what makes it the beautiful game. It's the beginning of a new era for women's soccer. If you can't appreciate it, even though the US lost, then leave the subject alone.

Your funny, I've preached it almost a decade ago that the US Soccer needs to evolve. I see it, problem is you don't comprehend that for the most part US Soccer coaches don't have the training, coaching philosophy, develop and style of play the Japanese, French, and Spanish do. You are leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves. Refer to the US Mens National team after a decade of Boys DA.

Example: it's like a teacher trying to teach Calculus with knowledge of only Algebra to straight A students.

Want the US game to truly evolve hire a French or Spanish head coach to lead the change and NOT an English coach (Ellis).

 

[Real Deal]

That would be an astute move by ECNL if they have indeed revoked EAGLES AND RSC's status as posted on another thread.

What?? Seriously? So glad our kids get to be stuck in the middle of what looks to be some giant turf war.
Maybe "someone" can make me a birth certificate that says my kid is either 2011 or 1999 so I can avoid it all.

 

[Real Deal]

Your funny, I've preached it almost a decade ago that the US Soccer needs to evolve. I see it, problem is you don't comprehend that for the most part US Soccer coaches don't have the training, coaching philosophy, develop and style of play the Japanese, French, and Spanish do. You are leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves. Refer to the US Mens National team after a decade of Boys DA.

Example: it's like a teacher trying to teach Calculus with knowledge of only Algebra to straight A students.

Want the US game to truly evolve hire a French or Spanish head coach to lead the change and NOT an English coach (Ellis).

Don't worry I'm sure the loss means "big changes" will be coming to girls youth soccer.

 

[timbuck]

Your funny, I've preached it almost a decade ago that the US Soccer needs to evolve. I see it, problem is you don't comprehend that for the most part US Soccer coaches don't have the training, coaching philosophy, develop and style of play the Japanese, French, and Spanish do. You are leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves. Refer to the US Mens National team after a decade of Boys DA.

Example: it's like a teacher trying to teach Calculus with knowledge of only Algebra to straight A students.

Want the US game to truly evolve hire a French or Spanish head coach to lead the change and NOT an English coach (Ellis).

What is the setup for womens soccer in other countries around the age of 18?
For men, playing in college in Europe is like being in the D or E team (maybe lower). In the US, (for now anyway), getting a college scholarship is the end game for most players (and their parents).
The womens game here in the US is the same. Play high level youth soccer, get into college to play soccer. Graduate and get a real job. For the .001%'ers of females, they can make a living playing.
If other countries are developing the womens game the way they have the mens game, then we should expect to fall behind the rest of the world.

 

[NoGoal]

Your funny, I've preached it almost a decade ago that the US Soccer needs to evolve. I see it, problem is you don't comprehend that for the most part US Soccer coaches don't have the training, coaching philosophy, develop and style of play the Japanese, French, and Spanish do. You are leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves. Refer to the US Mens National team after a decade of Boys DA.

Example: it's like a teacher trying to teach Calculus with knowledge of only Algebra to straight A students.

Want the US game to truly evolve hire a French or Spanish head coach to lead the change and NOT an English coach (Ellis).

And I almost forgot the 1st 2 goals by France was typical US Soccer tactics, high pressure in the opponents defensive half of the field, get the turnover and score with their speedy forward. 2nd goal was an over the top ball to a speedy forward. Ironic isn't it!

 

[NoGoal]

What is the setup for womens soccer in other countries around the age of 18?
For men, playing in college in Europe is like being in the D or E team (maybe lower). In the US, (for now anyway), getting a college scholarship is the end game for most players (and their parents).
The womens game here in the US is the same. Play high level youth soccer, get into college to play soccer. Graduate and get a real job. For the .001%'ers of females, they can make a living playing.
If other countries are developing the womens game the way they have the mens game, then we should expect to fall behind the rest of the world.

I don't know how other countries set-up their womens soccer program. I have to imagine it's the same process as their mens though and it's NOT pay to play (sorry Girls DA is pay to play).

Besides having better coaches in France and Japan in the womens game. Europe has an advantage with their pro mens clubs financially backing their female teams.

 

[chargerfan]

Yeah, the B license thing until 2021 caught me off guard because US Soccer is (or was) saying otherwise. The Internet of Lies.

Does anyone have an answer to this? Is it this year, or 2021? It seems like a lot is still TBD.

 

[chargerfan]

www.usdaii.com is dark right now (was up a few days ago). LAGSD marketing guy is the owner of the domain .

Thanks to US Soccer telling DA clubs to stop promoting DAII!

 

[ThtGoaldnKeeper]

Your funny, I've preached it almost a decade ago that the US Soccer needs to evolve. I see it, problem is you don't comprehend that for the most part US Soccer coaches don't have the training, coaching philosophy, develop and style of play the Japanese, French, and Spanish do. You are leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves. Refer to the US Mens National team after a decade of Boys DA.

Example: it's like a teacher trying to teach Calculus with knowledge of only Algebra to straight A students.

Want the US game to truly evolve hire a French or Spanish head coach to lead the change and NOT an English coach (Ellis).

I was not simply talking about the US game... I'm talking about women's soccer as a whole. I am saying that women's soccer is evolving, and, contrary to what seems to be your belief, that statement applies to all other countries. When I say women's soccer is evolving, I am not referring to the style of play or coaching or development of US players. Which I am not denying that there needs to be a serious change when it comes to out youth system. However, when I refer to women's soccer starting to evolve and change, I'm talking about how in the France vs USA game, one of the French forwards attempted a laces down volley off a cross. That's never been attempted before on such a large stage. That is REVOLUTIONARY. It's always been just doing what you can to score, so in another situation, they might have tried to take a touch and shoot or side volley it. The speed of play, the depth, the talent, the creativity: it is getting closer and closer to, for lack of a better reference, the men's game. It's talking about how intense and fast the games were in the She Believes Cup. Women's soccer as a whole, not a single program that varies from country to country, but as a game shared and is evolving through each of these countries, is changing. When I say that "even though the US lost", I mean that the way the game is evolving, there should not be a completely dominant team or country, and I definitely am not talking about "leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves".
Because here is the thing YOU do not comprehend. I don't care how you feel about US Soccer and their coaches. While I myself hold a very high level of respect for the foundation and those at the highest level in it, ultimately, I care about soccer, for it is all I do. Yes, US Soccer has issues it needs to fix, but all you seem to be is a critic typing his opinions on a forum that is, for the most part, insignificant. You are not the one out there putting in the work, trying to keep up with this evolving sport. Trying to change the game not for yourself but for the bigger picture. For the future. You sit on here and take pride in arguing with people here and always being right. Do not insult my intelligence. I don't just want the "US game to evolve" I want soccer to evolve because in the end, the game is what matters. Not where the players are from, because that is not soccer. THAT is not the game that brings the world together. Like I said before, if you can't have the objectivity to see and appreciate that the change in the game is good, and not only that but the fact that Ellis and the WNT sparked this change in their initial dominance and then their efforts to evolve their own game (though this is a very shaky time in the world of US Soccer from the National team down to the club level), I suggest you leave the subject alone

 

[NoGoal]

I was not simply talking about the US game... I'm talking about women's soccer as a whole. I am saying that women's soccer is evolving, and, contrary to what seems to be your belief, that statement applies to all other countries. When I say women's soccer is evolving, I am not referring to the style of play or coaching or development of US players. Which I am not denying that there needs to be a serious change when it comes to out youth system. However, when I refer to women's soccer starting to evolve and change, I'm talking about how in the France vs USA game, one of the French forwards attempted a laces down volley off a cross. That's never been attempted before on such a large stage. That is REVOLUTIONARY. It's always been just doing what you can to score, so in another situation, they might have tried to take a touch and shoot or side volley it. The speed of play, the depth, the talent, the creativity: it is getting closer and closer to, for lack of a better reference, the men's game. It's talking about how intense and fast the games were in the She Believes Cup. Women's soccer as a whole, not a single program that varies from country to country, but as a game shared and is evolving through each of these countries, is changing. When I say that "even though the US lost", I mean that the way the game is evolving, there should not be a completely dominant team or country, and I definitely am not talking about "leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves".
Because here is the thing YOU do not comprehend. I don't care how you feel about US Soccer and their coaches. While I myself hold a very high level of respect for the foundation and those at the highest level in it, ultimately, I care about soccer, for it is all I do. Yes, US Soccer has issues it needs to fix, but all you seem to be is a critic typing his opinions on a forum that is, for the most part, insignificant. You are not the one out there putting in the work, trying to keep up with this evolving sport. Trying to change the game not for yourself but for the bigger picture. For the future. You sit on here and take pride in arguing with people here and always being right. Do not insult my intelligence. I don't just want the "US game to evolve" I want soccer to evolve because in the end, the game is what matters. Not where the players are from, because that is not soccer. THAT is not the game that brings the world together. Like I said before, if you can't have the objectivity to see and appreciate that the change in the game is good, and not only that but the fact that Ellis and the WNT sparked this change in their initial dominance and then their efforts to evolve their own game (though this is a very shaky time in the world of US Soccer from the National team down to the club level), I suggest you leave the subject alone

You are getting excited about a women one timing a shot off a crossbar.....I've seen it happen in club ages.

Such a long diatribe. "I suggest you leave the subject alone" Yawn, FYI....I'm not the only one with the same opinion. Read up and while at it...create a username and post it in this forum that they should leave the subject alone too. Haha!

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/uswnt-v-france-she-believes-march-7-pre-pbp-post.2039380/page-6

 

[ThtGoaldnKeeper]

You're so childish, and I am not saying that US soccer doesn't need to improve, as I already said. I don't need to "read up". Can you ever consider what someone else is saying? Or even listen? Yawn, FYI.... making your point doesn't always have to have an insult next to it :/ and I'm not the only one with the same opinion. If you need me to type it again - I'm not saying that US Soccer doesn't have its problems. Like you said about the pay to play system, it prohibits a lot of talent the opportunity to play. It screwed me over for quite a long time. So I agree with you, however, I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT US SOCCER IN THE FIRST PLACE. and you don't seem to be grasping that concept.
On the other hand, for anyone who is wondering, in Europe the men side start extremely young, being recruited to play, train, and live in academies that can range from being extremely close, to in another country. The follow strict training regimens and if they can't keep up as they get older, they are let go of. If you don't know college is free in most European countries, so they can go into college, but most opt to go pro, and they are bought by clubs like a professional player. The women's soccer is much less supported over there, whilst they do have more more financially leeway because the men's' teams supports them financially.

 

[NoGoal]

I was not simply talking about the US game... I'm talking about women's soccer as a whole. I am saying that women's soccer is evolving, and, contrary to what seems to be your belief, that statement applies to all other countries. When I say women's soccer is evolving, I am not referring to the style of play or coaching or development of US players. Which I am not denying that there needs to be a serious change when it comes to out youth system. However, when I refer to women's soccer starting to evolve and change, I'm talking about how in the France vs USA game, one of the French forwards attempted a laces down volley off a cross. That's never been attempted before on such a large stage. That is REVOLUTIONARY. It's always been just doing what you can to score, so in another situation, they might have tried to take a touch and shoot or side volley it. The speed of play, the depth, the talent, the creativity: it is getting closer and closer to, for lack of a better reference, the men's game. It's talking about how intense and fast the games were in the She Believes Cup. Women's soccer as a whole, not a single program that varies from country to country, but as a game shared and is evolving through each of these countries, is changing. When I say that "even though the US lost", I mean that the way the game is evolving, there should not be a completely dominant team or country, and I definitely am not talking about "leaving this so called evolution of the beautiful game to coach who are figuring it out themselves".
Because here is the thing YOU do not comprehend. I don't care how you feel about US Soccer and their coaches. While I myself hold a very high level of respect for the foundation and those at the highest level in it, ultimately, I care about soccer, for it is all I do. Yes, US Soccer has issues it needs to fix, but all you seem to be is a critic typing his opinions on a forum that is, for the most part, insignificant. You are not the one out there putting in the work, trying to keep up with this evolving sport. Trying to change the game not for yourself but for the bigger picture. For the future. You sit on here and take pride in arguing with people here and always being right. Do not insult my intelligence. I don't just want the "US game to evolve" I want soccer to evolve because in the end, the game is what matters. Not where the players are from, because that is not soccer. THAT is not the game that brings the world together. Like I said before, if you can't have the objectivity to see and appreciate that the change in the game is good, and not only that but the fact that Ellis and the WNT sparked this change in their initial dominance and then their efforts to evolve their own game (though this is a very shaky time in the world of US Soccer from the National team down to the club level), I suggest you leave the subject alone

Do you like this volley skill goal by Alex Morgan

And to add more shine. A video of women volley goals. Enjoy....

 

[NoGoal]

You're so childish, and I am not saying that US soccer doesn't need to improve, as I already said. I don't need to "read up". Can you ever consider what someone else is saying? Or even listen? Yawn, FYI.... making your point doesn't always have to have an insult next to it :/ and I'm not the only one with the same opinion. If you need me to type it again - I'm not saying that US Soccer doesn't have its problems. Like you said about the pay to play system, it prohibits a lot of talent the opportunity to play. It screwed me over for quite a long time. So I agree with you, however, I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT US SOCCER IN THE FIRST PLACE. and you don't seem to be grasping that concept.
On the other hand, for anyone who is wondering, in Europe the men side start extremely young, being recruited to play, train, and live in academies that can range from being extremely close, to in another country. The follow strict training regimens and if they can't keep up as they get older, they are let go of. If you don't know college is free in most European countries, so they can go into college, but most opt to go pro, and they are bought by clubs like a professional player. The women's soccer is much less supported over there, whilst they do have more more financially leeway because the men's' teams supports them financially.

Yawn, my stepfather grew up playing in the Borussia Dortmund (Germany) youth system until U18....my next door neighbor played for the Honduras National team and both shared with me their experience and how those countries ID players. Next!