Girls Development Academy

NoGoal said:
The posters who are in a euphoric state because Girls DA is launching this fall. Have any of you read the B2003 Academy thread? If not read page 12 and 13.....subs are not frequently used.
http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/academy-season.267/page-13

Some of the parents are going to miss ECNL and the sub rule per half. lmao!
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If Girls DA players are training 4-5 days a week. This means the players will be more fit and able to play the whole game. Meaning, there is no need to sub the starters. I'm getting it now....it's a whole new way of thinking.

Lots of girls will be riding the pine!
 
chargerfan said:
You hit the nail on the head. It is all about developing the top 1%, and keeping them and their parents happy. Everyone else is just shelling out serious money and time to say their daughter plays DA.
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DA is making sense. US Soccer is creating a system to train future national team players. If your daughter is not national team material (or not interested in that level of play and commitment), GDA may not be the right place for her.

I am interested to see if GDA is the only option for a girl interested in playing at the collegiate level. There are some amazing colleges that play D3. Will D3 only be interested in GDA? We are in uncharted territory.
 
NoGoal said:
If Girls DA players are training 4-5 days a week. This means the players will be more fit and able to play the whole game. Meaning, there is no need to sub the starters. I'm getting it now....it's a whole new way of thinking.
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Have you been drinking again?
 
clueless parent said:
DA is making sense. US Soccer is creating a system to train future national team players. If your daughter is not national team material (or not interested in that level of play and commitment), GDA may not be the right place for her.

I am interested to see if GDA is the only option for a girl interested in playing at the collegiate level. There are some amazing colleges that play D3. Will D3 only be interested in GDA? We are in uncharted territory.
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Yeah right, Girls DA was created to ID 22 future rostered Sr national team players. If that's the case, then I am right about club soccer especially Girls DA being ponzi scheme. lmao!
 
clueless parent said:
DA is making sense. US Soccer is creating a system to train future national team players. If your daughter is not national team material (or not interested in that level of play and commitment), GDA may not be the right place for her.

I am interested to see if GDA is the only option for a girl interested in playing at the collegiate level. There are some amazing colleges that play D3. Will D3 only be interested in GDA? We are in uncharted territory.
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I fail to see what their plan is with DA that wasn't in place before with ECNL. It's the same clubs and the same coaches. The top girls will continue to be the top girls, and receive the most playing time, to the detriment of the bottom of the bench. I don't foresee much changing. They are responding to a girls soccer culture that has become about club and coach egos, parents' crazy ideas about their daughter being national team worthy and their willingness to give up a lot of time and money to make that happen.

Plenty of non-ECNL girls play in college, and plenty of non-DA girls will play in college. Talent is talent is talent. I guess I am just not too concerned with this "uncharted territory" as I am much more concerned with my daughter's academic future than her soccer one. If she's lucky enough to play in college, I will be cheering her on like crazy from the sidelines, but my goal for her is only a fantastic education that will help her land a good job.
 
NoGoal said:
Yeah right, Girls DA was created to ID 22 future rostered Sr national team players. If that's the case, then I am right about club soccer especially Girls DA being ponzi scheme. lmao!
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Let this figure stew for a minute. If, Girls DA is for the LUCKY 24 future Sr team players. In which the players are cycled in and out of the team. Let's say and it's not unreasonable to say the team roster will turned over every decade. It means ONLY 2.4 players per calender year have a shot making the Sr team.

There are 16,000 D1 women college players playing per year. A player making the Sr team is .00006%
 
NoGoal said:
Yeah right, Girls DA was created to ID 22 future rostered Sr national team players. If that's the case, then I am right about club soccer especially Girls DA being ponzi scheme. lmao!
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"....designed to accelerate the development of world-class female players"

Sr team or aboard? this seems like more of a narrow focus vs boys but same things are noted but w/ stronger tie to MLS teams on the boys side?.

How many women professional org are there involved initially in the girls DA? Both our locals are: LA Galaxy and LAFC (Slammers)

Developing homegrown player for our domestic league is something they publicize on the boys side.

For the GNT or YNT; Something like Scouts ID-->Age group training center's each two months (X) --->Quarterly Pools (48)---->Team Camp (36) Games or scrimmages--->Call back players X3 (20) + 18 (New each quarter)---> Final team end of season

Since those are nation wide the number of players for one area tends to be small quantities especially when you get to the camps but maybe SC will have a disproportion? Couple 2-3 from each age group?

Will the pools be ~85 for the DA like the boys, no way I would venture to quess for the girls. 10 yrs from now maybe?
 
NoGoal said:
Yeah right, Girls DA was created to ID 22 future rostered Sr national team players. If that's the case, then I am right about club soccer especially Girls DA being ponzi scheme. lmao!
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Actually, you are right. Not about the Ponzi scheme, but about the primary goal of the DA.
 
NoGoal said:
Let this figure stew for a minute. If, Girls DA is for the LUCKY 24 future Sr team players. In which the players are cycled in and out of the team. Let's say and it's not unreasonable to say the team roster will turned over every decade. It means ONLY 2.4 players per calender year have a shot making the Sr team.

There are 16,000 D1 women college players playing per year. A player making the Sr team is .00006%
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. I think your math is off. Your number is 1 in 1.67 Million. When you add the percentage sign you need to move the decimal two spots.
 
I can't help but agree with you chargerfan. The change is only with regard to who is running the show, I think. My DD has not been part of the ECNL (because of us, logistics, etc.), so if she decides to go DA, we will experience a difference. Totally unchartered waters for us. The only thing we ARE certain of is the fact that our DD will go to a great school, regardless. As a family, we are not relying on soccer to get her there. If this is the more direct path to her dream of playing at the highest level, great. Sometimes there are sacrifices that are necessary to achieve ones dreams. Personally, I hate that those sacrifices are HS sports, as does she. So, the ultimate decision is hers.
 
Kicknit22 said:
I can't help but agree with you chargerfan. The change is only with regard to who is running the show, I think. My DD has not been part of the ECNL (because of us, logistics, etc.), so if she decides to go DA, we will experience a difference. Totally unchartered waters for us. The only thing we ARE certain of is the fact that our DD will go to a great school, regardless. As a family, we are not relying on soccer to get her there. If this is the more direct path to her dream of playing at the highest level, great. Sometimes there are sacrifices that are necessary to achieve ones dreams. Personally, I hate that those sacrifices are HS sports, as does she. So, the ultimate decision is hers.
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Dos Equis said:
Actually, you are right. Not about the Ponzi scheme, but about the primary goal of the DA.
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I think the ultimate goal of raising the level of play across the country even for girls who don't make the national team is a good thing. If you love soccer and are passionate about it, you might understand. Every sport is expensive. Some families even move to different states to provide their athlete the best coaching and facilities. Nothing new here. Maybe it is the AYSO thinking where everyone plays, costs are low and therefore the same thing should continue. AYSO is a good place to start with the little ones to see if their interests are with soccer. There are many sports available for kids to participate in if that is what you want and your child wants. At some point you make an educated decision with your child on their future in the game and if it is worth it. No need to keep bashing a new path for soccer. Change is inevitable. The US women have been at the top of the soccer world for a long time but the rest of the world is catching up. Nothing wrong with change.
 
Lambchop said:
I think the ultimate goal of raising the level of play across the country even for girls who don't make the national team is a good thing. If you love soccer and are passionate about it, you might understand. Every sport is expensive. Some families even move to different states to provide their athlete the best coaching and facilities. Nothing new here. Maybe it is the AYSO thinking where everyone plays, costs are low and therefore the same thing should continue. AYSO is a good place to start with the little ones to see if their interests are with soccer. There are many sports available for kids to participate in if that is what you want and your child wants. At some point you make an educated decision with your child on their future in the game and if it is worth it. No need to keep bashing a new path for soccer. Change is inevitable. The US women have been at the top of the soccer world for a long time but the rest of the world is catching up. Nothing wrong with change.
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Very well put Lamb.
 
NoGoal said:
Let this figure stew for a minute. If, Girls DA is for the LUCKY 24 future Sr team players. In which the players are cycled in and out of the team. Let's say and it's not unreasonable to say the team roster will turned over every decade. It means ONLY 2.4 players per calender year have a shot making the Sr team.

There are 16,000 D1 women college players playing per year. A player making the Sr team is .00006%
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Kicknit22 said:
Very well put Lamb.
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We have been involved in competitive level basketball and baseball, both which can lead to very lucrative playing careers, but youth soccer takes the cake as far as delusion of parents. I think it's because soccer isn't a sport we grew up with so we feel we need to hand over thousands of dollars to a guy with adidas gear and a cool accent to "develop" them. There are definitely good coaches and good clubs out there that are really developing, and it is a shame they are losing players whose parents think they need to leave to find the next best thing.
 
Lambchop said:
I think the ultimate goal of raising the level of play across the country even for girls who don't make the national team is a good thing. If you love soccer and are passionate about it, you might understand. Every sport is expensive. Some families even move to different states to provide their athlete the best coaching and facilities. Nothing new here. Maybe it is the AYSO thinking where everyone plays, costs are low and therefore the same thing should continue. AYSO is a good place to start with the little ones to see if their interests are with soccer. There are many sports available for kids to participate in if that is what you want and your child wants. At some point you make an educated decision with your child on their future in the game and if it is worth it. No need to keep bashing a new path for soccer. Change is inevitable. The US women have been at the top of the soccer world for a long time but the rest of the world is catching up. Nothing wrong with change.
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Sure the landscape changes, but what do you think Girls DA will change? I understand their marketing and valued added philosophy is development with 4-5 training sessions per week? Do you think US Soccer evolves into a possession style? It's really about development over wins (read Boys DA 2003 thread). They will pick less athletic, but more technical players over superior athletic players made into soccer players? Non-National team players will be sign a 6 figure income, if drafted by NWSL teams?

Seriously, I would like to know your thoughts.
 
NoGoal said:
Sure the landscape changes, but what do you think Girls DA will change? I understand their marketing and valued added philosophy is development with 4-5 training sessions per week? Do you think US Soccer evolves into a possession style? It's really about development over wins (read Boys DA 2003 thread). They will pick less athletic, but more technical players over superior athletic players made into soccer players? Non-National team players will be sign a 6 figure income, if drafted by NWSL teams?

Seriously, I would like to know your thoughts.
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The USMNT U20 team just won the CONCACAF! Most are products of the boys DA!
Congratulations to our young men on their victories.
 
Hey NG, I am not answering for Lambchop here, but I wanted to offer up my thoughts. As Chargerfan put it, not much different from what ECNL was providing prior to this power play by US SOCCER. However, the big "change" is the elevated demand of commitment expected. 4-5 days a week and NO outside sports. I think the style of play will always be shifting as it always has. As far as the "type" of player they will be looking for, I can only hope that there will be less of a cookie cutter approach to identifying. As a father to 2 daughters that love this sport, I am encouraged by the changing landscape. Most would agree that the sport is gaining popularity in this country and throughout the world. The fight for equal pay of today's women will only benefit the next generation of young ladies. I, for one, am rooting for them.
 
Lambchop said:
The USMNT U20 team just won the CONCACAF! Most are products of the boys DA!
Congratulations to our young men on their victories.
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Concacaf? Um....the Mens National team already beat concacaf teams....USA Mens team have qualified for the World Cup going since 1990. The 2 best countries in the Concacaf are USA and Mexico. So don't get all jazzed about our U20 menas team winning Concacaf.

BTW, Girls YNT and the Sr team already beat Concacaf teams as well.

Next?
 
Kicknit22 said:
Hey NG, I am not answering for Lambchop here, but I wanted to offer up my thoughts. As Chargerfan put it, not much different from what ECNL was providing prior to this power play by US SOCCER. However, the big "change" is the elevated demand of commitment expected. 4-5 days a week and NO outside sports. I think the style of play will always be shifting as it always has. As far as the "type" of player they will be looking for, I can only hope that there will be less of a cookie cutter approach to identifying. As a father to 2 daughters that love this sport, I am encouraged by the changing landscape. Most would agree that the sport is gaining popularity in this country and throughout the world. The fight for equal pay of today's women will only benefit the next generation of young ladies. I, for one, am rooting for them.
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I'm sorry, but if your DD wasn't already training 4-5 days a week since U10. Then your DD is already behind. My DD and many others I know....have been doing it for years already without US Soccer needing to dictate down. These players were training 2 days with their club team, 1-2 day of training on their own....e.g. ball to the wall skills drills/shooting. 1 day of speed and agility training started at 12 yrs old.

So what is supposedly different? My DD's club coach already told me...the US Soccer philosophy is 2-3 days of training, mixed in with 1 day of conditioning and 1 day of board/video work.m

As for YNT camp invites, how will it be different than watching ECNL showcase games substitute now for Girls DA showcase games. Also, throw in the typical DOC recommending their best players to the YNT scouts/head coaches.
 
I find it ironic that I'm sounding more and more like Zoro (a former uolders poster). I use to disagree with him years ago when I was a ulittle parent.
 
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