Are they altering the sub rules to more than 3 instances per game?
Girls Development Academy
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Simisoccerfan
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The OC Surf posting on coach assignments seems to imply that DPL will no longer be running the 03 pilot and it will be a true DA pilot. I arrive at this conclusion since they have separate coaches named for the 03 DA Pilot and the 03 DPL team. I know our team announced the DA coaches for next year and has a 02 coach/team and a 03 coach/team. They have not announced the DPL coaches yet.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
DPL played unlimited subs up to the 18 that can be rostered but I believe they played no re entry in a half.
I believe that is the international rule and what the DA will stick to. If FIFA changes their rules, we are set to follow. Remember top priority is to find which kids play best in the International Setting on our National team.
Wow, that's an embarrassment of riches even for the Blues. AR's 2003 ECNL team and the Blues' 2003 DA team are both legit National Championship contenders in their respective leagues.
USA Soccer has DA pilot in other regions for GDA this year correct? It app
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Pure crap? lol....what’s wrong with you? Most DA 2001/2002 teams this year have just 2 or 3 2002s on the roster. O3 pilot DA in 2018-2019 will still be considered the A team!
Minus the their 2 or 3 best players. (I’m guessing more, from what I’m hearing) .... Maybe the 03 pilot will be more like a B+ team?
In my statement I was very clear that I'm okay with an age division split. What I'm saying is pure crap is that it isn't considered to be the normal division in DA. They don't get to go to all the showcases (no 2nd one like what they just attended in North Carolina), and will their game results be available on the US Soccer Academy website like all the other DA teams?
I have been on this forum spewing my opinion that "I love what the DA can do for the game, but DA isn't for a lot of girls" from the time we were playing vs everyone still in the Summer and we lost to a non DA/ECNL team and started getting ragged on. I stated then... DA is a whole different beast attempting to conquer goals that the high majority of teams in other leagues have no idea or concern about and certainly don't mandate. From passing out of and building from the back to how they want the ball to move up the field, etc...... Foreign concepts to most of our girls who have been the best athletes on in their teams in a WIN AT ALL COSTS environment that lacked this type of sophisticated development in most cases. This also means that the coaching needs to be at a higher level than before.
My other concern was the age grouping. I never liked it although I understood it. The sub rule didn't concern me as much if the rosters were 18 or less.
If a little ole obsessive soccer parent like me could see these issues coming in the largest, densest, most populous, most competitive part of the country called Southern California partaking in this venture , how couldn't the powers that be? Here is were the parents of olders come in and say we told you US Soccer would flub this up. Ding ding ding.
I think the DA is great and could be better if they actually took into consideration the children.... NOTICE THAT WORD - CHILDREN, they are looking to have participate in their program and recognize that it takes more than one year to break the bad habits of the lesser quality players (mentally, physically and combined) *disclaimer - lesser quality doesn't mean you suck. You suck means you suck. Lesser quality means you aren't ready for prime time in the current system and need developing and time to do so*.
You know what, may be they have and just didn't care as long as they got their 25-50 top players out of the program. Still, if your idea is to have those 25-50 top players flourish and continue to dominate on the world stage - they better be going against the most kick ass competition they can at home. That means makes the rules so the group has time to grow and adjust. Those that are ahead of the curve will be placed in advanced situations with older and better competition in the beginning anyways (see the two 03's on the Slammers 01/02 team or Solar 00/99 team). This allows for long term growth and better competition. That's how you build a system for long term growth and sustainability. Similar to how John Wooden did at UCLA, Coach K does at Duke, Pat Summit did at Tennessee and Gene A does at UConn in college basketball. The one constant is they have no more than 4 years (99% of the time) to develop these young human beings who are extremely talented and turn them into successful athletes within their particular system. All of their athletes are hand picked, same as the ones for the DA.
The difference is they rushed to put it into effect and didn't think about the product they want to produce is HUMAN BEINGS and most humans do not adjust quickly to new circumstances.
Like I've said, my kid is getting the looks, emails, invites, etc.... to universities, which is the main goal. This isn't a personal rant. My kid can play and and my kid still has a lot of dynamic growth and soccer development to come and be really good for however long she determines she wants to lace them up. I'm just watching the whole. Not just her team, but the whole and seeing kids struggle mightily and wonder how US Soccer didn't see this coming or if they simply didn't care?
Beyond that.... it's the law of the jungle buddy. Cool beans and good luck.
Also - here are the FIFA 2017/18 sub rules from their website. You can find the pdf here: http://www.fifa.com/search/?q=LAWS+OF+THE+GAME+2017-18
Okay, okay
In Norcal, the rumor is they already did. It will influence minimal to no movement for ECNL players to adandon their team for DA. Local US Training center invites are already biased toward DA. College is the end game and most Norcal parents aren’t that disillusioned to think their daughter is the .1%. Even parents whose daughters should actually be invited to local US trainings, maybe irritated, but not enough to abandon a coach, team, and journey they like for a pipe dream. The real showdown for who should be on the national team will be in college. Parents with ballers aren’t worried about it. Regardless of youth invites or not, those deserving will be hard to deny (i.e. Hallie Mace). Even if your end game is USNT, I doubt USSF will deny a pac-12 athletic freak and star a look because she didn’t come from a DA club.
FIFA rules are appropriate for professional and international games (although I believe the "3" may be bypassed in some situations). Limiting subs that severely for youth developmental or showcase situations is meaningless imitation that interferes with rational coaching decisions.
Fix?
shales1002
GOLD
That would be asinine. It's not the fault of the player about what their clubs or parents decide to do. I think we can all agree that are DDs are the ones caught in this tug of war. The only thing I see coming is the powers that be using SoCal to try to salvage GDA. Believe me when I say the only mad scramble would be from those who aren't the true unicorns. True unicorns know their value. Unicorns will be found and utilized regardless of league affiliation after all they are special.
Unfortunately the girls are caught in the fray. In Norcal, 80% of regional invites are from DA clubs - 70% from 1 DA club - despite strong ECNL league presence. No one is changing teams (that I'm aware of) because of it, but the bias is noticed. Maybe this will influence U8 parent hopefuls, but not olders. I look forward to seeing some of these girls play in D1. It'll be captain obvious by then. Our team beat the Thorns DA in a scrimmage a while back something to the order of 16-0 in the presence of a local US Soccer Scout and local college coaches. It didn't translate to regional NTC , but college coaches know where the talent is and will not be swayed by league affiliation.
Desert Hound
DA
That DA team has the second best record in their age group in NorCal DA Their coach invited national team scouts to the game along with a couple of PAC 12 coaches. More than half their team are in the regional NTC. After that 16-0 blastibg in front all those scouts/coaches, many of us were shaking our heads about how they had so many kids invited to NTC. Something is wrong with the US soccer’s player identification process.