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DA is not for everyone but does work well for those that don't want to play HS and are serious about soccer.
I do agree with you that it is nice to have options. I would add that, "ECNL is not for everyone but does work well for those that want to play HS and are serious about soccer."

This season my DD chose to stay ECNL but also trains at times during the week with the DA team. She also does private lessons to boot. She's pretty serious about soccer but also enjoys a bit more freedom playing under the ECNL banner....see HS. The P5 and high mid-major college coaches that have recruited her only seem to care about her continued enjoyment of the game along with her continuing efforts to improve her technical abilities and tactical understanding of the game. She is well-balanced and happy and most importantly is enjoying the beautiful game. This is her journey and I know everyone's is different so I'm just putting emphasis on the "options" portion of your comment which I wholeheartedly agree with but expanding your "serious about soccer" to include ECNL.

Best of everything to you and your player!
 
I do agree with you that it is nice to have options. I would add that, "ECNL is not for everyone but does work well for those that want to play HS and are serious about soccer."

This season my DD chose to stay ECNL but also trains at times during the week with the DA team. She also does private lessons to boot. She's pretty serious about soccer but also enjoys a bit more freedom playing under the ECNL banner....see HS. The P5 and high mid-major college coaches that have recruited her only seem to care about her continued enjoyment of the game along with her continuing efforts to improve her technical abilities and tactical understanding of the game. She is well-balanced and happy and most importantly is enjoying the beautiful game. This is her journey and I know everyone's is different so I'm just putting emphasis on the "options" portion of your comment which I wholeheartedly agree with but expanding your "serious about soccer" to include ECNL.

Best of everything to you and your player!
Well said...
 
Oh, I got it. You are an unpaid intern at US Soccer hyping up GDA.
I was wondering why you so cray cray. Hey, coffee ain't going to be brewing by itself. Go make some.

It's a big experiment. If the name was Jim Bob's Soccer Federation I wouldn't give a damn. I also understand that this isn't getting us to the top level of soccer/futbol in the world on the mens side.

Only having a true culture that is over the top crazy about the sport like the way we are with Football will do that. Why? It will bring the money to the game. That will bring the best athletes to the game. That will bring the best coaches. Our top athletes like to get paid, have nice cars, fine women and fame. That isn't what you get as a soccer player here. That's why half the parents of the top players in the game at D1 aren't encouraging their daughters to play the game. They don't see the need for the $ you get out of it. It's just not practical.

All these youth systems will be different in 10 years from now. I'm not married to them nor am I blissfully ignorant to the flaws. I have 3 years left for her and 6 years left for him and like Dre said, "Fuck Soccer you can have it back!". Real talk, my kids have brought a love for this game that will never die. I appreciate the game in a way I never thought was possible when I was a fresh 18 year old in the pubs of France wondering what the hell are you guys going nuts for. I get it now and me getting it comes with the understanding that most Americans don't get it like that and possibly never will. If my kids weren't good athletes and didn't get a chance to play at these high levels I wouldn't appreciate the hard work, dedication, technical ability and just plain desire to push through all the politics and bs to play a game you love for soccer. I understood it for football, baseball and basketball, but not soccer and now I do.

Just when it comes to people whining about high school soccer - that holds no merit for me. I don't find that level of the game instrumental in helping girls get to the top like it once did. The state of the Womens game allowed us the lee way to flourish through what goes on there in the past, but when you look at the focus, dedication and money other countries are putting into the game at the youth level that mimic what they have successfully done on the mens side - the gap has closed and we need to adjust.

Will the DA be the way? Not sure. It just seems more people are angry about the changes being forced than the actual system itself. Watch Beach FC DA girls play and it's hard not to be impressed and say that's some pretty stuff (no my kid doesn't play for them). There are other avenues to the path of success if you don't like the DA.

ECNL still exists for those that don't like the DA. All the other leagues are still there. If you aren't a fan, than speak with your money and have your kid play elsewhere. If enough people do that AND US Soccer deems it is a failed venture, the DA will disappear or be swallowed up and you can party to the lights go out. In the end, I'm going to do what's right for my kids. Do what's right for yours and stop acting as if there are no other paths.

The only thing personal here (beyond the attacks that you keyboard warriors enjoy lobbying at me and others who don't share your viewpoint), is assisting my kids in reaching their goals. I also enjoy watching and assisting other good people reach their goals. We all have different paths. Do you and I'll do me.
 
As you may or may not know the overall DA allows you to play high school if you are a freshman this year. Here is the U.S. Webinar that states this. https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/pshiqv8vittgn5z5auffkhazp5ek9eeq
Some clubs went by this rule and some did not. The ones that honored this rule found that many of their girls were going to take a break and play high school. These clubs were surprised by this and felt they may not be able to field a competitive team during this time frame so they resorted to questionable tactics to keep the girls from going to high school. I've heard many things from you won't be allowed back on the team; to the guilt trip of, "I'm disappointed to hear that some of you are considering high school, i thought you were better that"; High school soccer is no good; HS coaches are no good; we will talk to your college coaches; etc...


Yeah that's not cool at all. I did know about the waiver being allowed this season, but only know one kid that took advantage of it and am glad she had a great season. Thanks for expanding on that.
 
I do agree with you that it is nice to have options. I would add that, "ECNL is not for everyone but does work well for those that want to play HS and are serious about soccer."

This season my DD chose to stay ECNL but also trains at times during the week with the DA team. She also does private lessons to boot. She's pretty serious about soccer but also enjoys a bit more freedom playing under the ECNL banner....see HS. The P5 and high mid-major college coaches that have recruited her only seem to care about her continued enjoyment of the game along with her continuing efforts to improve her technical abilities and tactical understanding of the game. She is well-balanced and happy and most importantly is enjoying the beautiful game. This is her journey and I know everyone's is different so I'm just putting emphasis on the "options" portion of your comment which I wholeheartedly agree with but expanding your "serious about soccer" to include ECNL.

Best of everything to you and your player!

Great post GoWest
 
It's a big experiment. If the name was Jim Bob's Soccer Federation I wouldn't give a damn. I also understand that this isn't getting us to the top level of soccer/futbol in the world on the mens side.

Only having a true culture that is over the top crazy about the sport like the way we are with Football will do that. Why? It will bring the money to the game. That will bring the best athletes to the game. That will bring the best coaches. Our top athletes like to get paid, have nice cars, fine women and fame. That isn't what you get as a soccer player here. That's why half the parents of the top players in the game at D1 aren't encouraging their daughters to play the game. They don't see the need for the $ you get out of it. It's just not practical.

All these youth systems will be different in 10 years from now. I'm not married to them nor am I blissfully ignorant to the flaws. I have 3 years left for her and 6 years left for him and like Dre said, "Fuck Soccer you can have it back!". Real talk, my kids have brought a love for this game that will never die. I appreciate the game in a way I never thought was possible when I was a fresh 18 year old in the pubs of France wondering what the hell are you guys going nuts for. I get it now and me getting it comes with the understanding that most Americans don't get it like that and possibly never will. If my kids weren't good athletes and didn't get a chance to play at these high levels I wouldn't appreciate the hard work, dedication, technical ability and just plain desire to push through all the politics and bs to play a game you love for soccer. I understood it for football, baseball and basketball, but not soccer and now I do.

Just when it comes to people whining about high school soccer - that holds no merit for me. I don't find that level of the game instrumental in helping girls get to the top like it once did. The state of the Womens game allowed us the lee way to flourish through what goes on there in the past, but when you look at the focus, dedication and money other countries are putting into the game at the youth level that mimic what they have successfully done on the mens side - the gap has closed and we need to adjust.

Will the DA be the way? Not sure. It just seems more people are angry about the changes being forced than the actual system itself. Watch Beach FC DA girls play and it's hard not to be impressed and say that's some pretty stuff (no my kid doesn't play for them). There are other avenues to the path of success if you don't like the DA.

ECNL still exists for those that don't like the DA. All the other leagues are still there. If you aren't a fan, than speak with your money and have your kid play elsewhere. If enough people do that AND US Soccer deems it is a failed venture, the DA will disappear or be swallowed up and you can party to the lights go out. In the end, I'm going to do what's right for my kids. Do what's right for yours and stop acting as if there are no other paths.

The only thing personal here (beyond the attacks that you keyboard warriors enjoy lobbying at me and others who don't share your viewpoint), is assisting my kids in reaching their goals. I also enjoy watching and assisting other good people reach their goals. We all have different paths. Do you and I'll do me.

It would appear not everyone shares your opinion on high school, including some of top college coaches in the country. With that said, everyone is entitled to their opinion and who am I to say whose is right.... Time will tell.

https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...er-blundered-badly-on-high-school-soccer.html
 
I disagree. Soccer is not new in America and next to football is the highest youth participation sport. We are broke and it's has more to do with Capitalism and our economic/political culture than our sports culture.

Capitalism or the ability to change your status with your abilities honed to their maximum plays a part in all sports all over the world. Cubans and Dominicans play baseball because it gets them out of poverty. Most of the girls of the parents in this forum are playing to get scholarships at these universities so the education allows them to live better lives. There are some who can play the game at the highest level like yours did MAP and won't, but not many.

I realized the hard way that youth soccer is a business. A hard nose, ruthless, backstabbing, egotistical, take care of yourself first business. Whole club teams defect to go WIN and college coaches get fired for unsuccessful seasons. That's business.

On the girls side, we have the athletes to stay at the top of the game. A lot of these soccer players could and some do rock at softball, basketball, etc.... Thing is they really are playing for love of the game and friendship and a desire to be the best at what they do because the pro leagues of other sports aren't enticing them away. They don't make too much more playing any other sport, so you may as well play what you love the most and that gets you into college.

On the boys side, it's a whole different scenario. We are the 4th option for athletes at the pro level. More people watch pro soccer than hockey here, but hockey players make more money. There are no bad pro athletes in any of these leagues, but let's not pretend our status wouldn't be different if the money was in MLS and we could bring in guys like Kobe, LeBron, Paul George, etc..... We would be France. Look at what they put on the field. That is what soccer would look like if our best athletes played the game. Skilled, fast, strong, exciting and winners. A lot of people complaining about where we stand as a soccer country internationally would be left out.
 
It would appear not everyone shares your opinion on high school, including some of top college coaches in the country. With that said, everyone is entitled to their opinion and who am I to say whose is right.... Time will tell.

https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...er-blundered-badly-on-high-school-soccer.html

I know a high school coach I respect a lot whose boy plays with mine and girl plays the year under mine in the DA and he hates the high school soccer rule. I know a lot of people disagree. Most do when change comes. Like you said.. time will tell.
 
Doesn't high school soccer also cost a lot of money nowadays depending on the school?

Ours in the IE cost about $175 total for the entire season. Pennies compared to club. We make it to CIF every year (won regionals 4 years ago) and soccer is huge at our school. I would say the training is mediocre at best and no one that I know at our school does it for the training. They play for the fun and team environment (and of course the pre-game dinners that the girls love). I've heard several academy players saying they're leaving due to the 4 days/week practice and sub rules. ECNL seems to be a better path for me and my girls but since West Coast is dropping ECNL, not sure what do now. West Coast is saying DA2 is the substitute for ECNL but I don't see that from the quality of competition ECNL brings to the table compared to playing "B" academy teams.
 
I don't agree with your comment that most girls regret not playing HS. Your kid is in college along with her peers. DA did not exist when they were in HS so playing HS was the norm. So unless you have another kid currently playing HS I think times have changed and you may not have the current perspective. From a parent perspective I loved HS. Friday night games with packed stands. Newspaper articles. It feeds a parent's ego. From my dd perspective she was extremely frustrated by the quality of play (even though we won league) and the quality of training. She won't be playing HS during here senior season and is looking forward to having a break since DA shuts down for about 5 weeks during December/January. I have asked my dd whether this has been discussed with her current DA players and she tells me that really no one misses HS. Personally I think its the parents that miss it more.


You are wrong regarding my situation. I was the one trying to convince my player not to play high school soccer. I went to maybe 10 high school games my players whole career. Her junior year she started the season as the team manager and absolutely hated it. She ended up asking the coach to let her play (and didn't tell me until after he said yes!).

No matter who the player is at some point they have to hang up the cleats. My player is ecstatic to have played with the girls that she grew up with, none of which were good enough to play on her on her club or ODP team.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
I do agree with you that it is nice to have options. I would add that, "ECNL is not for everyone but does work well for those that want to play HS and are serious about soccer."

This season my DD chose to stay ECNL but also trains at times during the week with the DA team. She also does private lessons to boot. She's pretty serious about soccer but also enjoys a bit more freedom playing under the ECNL banner....see HS. The P5 and high mid-major college coaches that have recruited her only seem to care about her continued enjoyment of the game along with her continuing efforts to improve her technical abilities and tactical understanding of the game. She is well-balanced and happy and most importantly is enjoying the beautiful game. This is her journey and I know everyone's is different so I'm just putting emphasis on the "options" portion of your comment which I wholeheartedly agree with but expanding your "serious about soccer" to include ECNL.

Best of everything to you and your player!

Great post! As one who has a player in college this is a great path to success. At the end of the day they are teenage girls. My kid and I mainly talked about Coachella and school so far this week. Not soccer and she is on a mission to be 100% by July.
Meet them enjoy the journey that is the best way to make it last. Continued good luck to you and your player.
 
Here is what I am pretty sure that I do know....You are an idiot, you haven't been anywhere, and likely haven't done anything. That is what comes through to me in your posts. Like I said pretty clear. You don't know what you don't know. If you were to go back and read my posts, you would see that I am one of the few that has said that one of the things that USSF is doing wrong is trying to copy someone else's identity, that if USSF just embraced who Americans are, and built a system around that culture, they would have better results. One of the glorious things about this country is it's culture. Coming from another culture, I like millions of others here appreciate the culture and see the benefits that it brings to not only soccer but to all their sports and athletes. Develop our own style!! But if you think that is what USSF is doing, and that the system is NOT broke, you have spent too much time sucking the DA pole.

In case there is any question as to your ignorance, just look at your quote "Just like the US Women did from day one." If you think for one second that the success of the women's team is due anything USSF and their system did for them or because the women had a system of "keeping what works for us and tossing the rest", you really don't understand soccer in general, or the history of women's soccer period. Title IX has done more for women's soccer in this country than USSF ever has done, or ever will do. To this day, there are still more countries without a women's team than the number that do. So yes, without taking anything away from the WNT, they have done very, very well for themselves (again, on their own and without much support from USSF) but they have also been playing with a loaded deck. Now that that other countries have increased their involvement and participation in women's soccer, you see the women struggling much more. So when you see, or hear poster's complain that they better get better at development and SELECTION, you now know what they are talking about. University's, High Schools and leagues like ECNL have done all the heavy lifting and as soon as the women reach their pinnacle, DA announces that they have to take over to make it great. Oh brother!! Try getting up off your knees for a minute and looking around you. It's a big, beautiful world with many paths to where you want to go. Yours is not the only one.

Oh, by the way....in this country, it's called Soccer.
This time it was a funny bitch-slapping. Well done and back to back.
 
Ours in the IE cost about $175 total for the entire season. Pennies compared to club. We make it to CIF every year (won regionals 4 years ago) and soccer is huge at our school. I would say the training is mediocre at best and no one that I know at our school does it for the training. They play for the fun and team environment (and of course the pre-game dinners that the girls love). I've heard several academy players saying they're leaving due to the 4 days/week practice and sub rules. ECNL seems to be a better path for me and my girls but since West Coast is dropping ECNL, not sure what do now. West Coast is saying DA2 is the substitute for ECNL but I don't see that from the quality of competition ECNL brings to the table compared to playing "B" academy teams.

What club do these players say the academy schedule is too much? Are these 04s?
 
What club do these players say the academy schedule is too much? Are these 04s?

I spoke to parents at Legends, Pats, and West Coast. Yes mostly 04s and some 03s. Oh, I forgot to mention that 75% of the parents I spoke to say the 4 back-to-back practices (usually Mon-Thurs) is brutal on the girls and many are injured due to overwork and not enough recovery. I have yet to speak to one parent that agrees or approves with the 4 practices. Most say 3 is max. My girl guested with west coast a few times due to 5 injured players. Fortunately, they are all back now. Being an ECNL parent with 2 practices I can say not one of our girls has ever been injured from overuse but I think 2 practices is too few and would prefer 3. If we could only meet in the middle somewhere...
 
I spoke to parents at Legends, Pats, and West Coast. Yes mostly 04s and some 03s. Oh, I forgot to mention that 75% of the parents I spoke to say the 4 back-to-back practices (usually Mon-Thurs) is brutal on the girls and many are injured due to overwork and not enough recovery. I have yet to speak to one parent that agrees or approves with the 4 practices. Most say 3 is max. My girl guested with west coast a few times due to 5 injured players. Fortunately, they are all back now. Being an ECNL parent with 2 practices I can say not one of our girls has ever been injured from overuse but I think 2 practices is too few and would prefer 3. If we could only meet in the middle somewhere...

DA is not for everyone. My DD is doing very well......same schedule she had prior to DA because she used to do privates, groups and futsal. I’m surprise to hear some are saying the 4x practice is brutal because everyone shows up to training, even injured players when they can’t practice
 
I spoke to parents at Legends, Pats, and West Coast. Yes mostly 04s and some 03s. Oh, I forgot to mention that 75% of the parents I spoke to say the 4 back-to-back practices (usually Mon-Thurs) is brutal on the girls and many are injured due to overwork and not enough recovery. I have yet to speak to one parent that agrees or approves with the 4 practices. Most say 3 is max. My girl guested with west coast a few times due to 5 injured players. Fortunately, they are all back now. Being an ECNL parent with 2 practices I can say not one of our girls has ever been injured from overuse but I think 2 practices is too few and would prefer 3. If we could only meet in the middle somewhere...

HS teams practice 5 days a week when not playing games. When they start playing games they usually play two games a week with practices on the other three days along with possible games on Saturdays prior the start of league. If they complain about practice 4 days and usually just one game a week then HS has more than this. Also away games usually take all afternoon/evening since the quite often have to be present for the other levels of play.
 
This game is more reflective of how soccer should be played (by both teams) even at a younger age (2004 GDA). Kudos to the coaches for teaching these girls to play the right way.

First Half:
Second Half:
 
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