That's like me saying, "The problem is always the wife." Let's try and start over Coach.
Gets demoted?
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yeah , the 4 year olds are hilarious having just gone through this with mine . 1/2 the kids were crying in a parents lap, climbing the fence , or just flat out refusing to go back on the field
but, these clubs would not be having 2017 birth year teams if there were not customers for this
I would have had my dd out there, i won't lie. I got her out at 5 years old for AYSO. Moved up to Rec at 6 and then got recruited by every club in Temecula at 7
My dd team was undefeated in AYSO. I coached the rec team and we got killed. It was co-ed and I got tricked into coaching. I told the head guy that if he needed any help with set up and he looks at me and and says, "we need a coach." Like many have said, you dont have to be on a winning team to get recruited by the scouts I would have had my dd out there, i won't lie. I got her out at 5 years old for AYSO. Moved up to Rec at 6 and then got recruited by every club in Temecula at 7
yeah this was basically 4 year olds play some fun games then break out into 3v3
there was a mini-Messi out there . So that’s who the 2017 surf team is for
I did the AYSO coaching with my daughter for a season, I enjoyed it , but I was so worried about parents feeling like I was favoring my daughter that I think I subbed her out more than any other player on the team. I also got annoyed at this one coach who insisted on having throw ins with 5 year olds instead of just kicking the ball back in. You have any idea how often the ball is out of bounds in a 5 year old game lol?
Oh boy, you just made me laugh....lol. My team was the last team put together. I had a little boy named CJ who had these big glasses and could barely run and was afraid of the ball. Then I had a special needs girl who would go full close line of the other teams players. She was a great kid but did not like it when someone took the ball away from her. My dd was still trying to figure out the great game and towards the end of the season, a big time coach from Arsenal South emailed me and the rest is history. I will say I had to go up against the top team and Mr. Dad Coach. This guy was a smartass and thought he knew the game better then the other dads. His team was stacked! We had to play his team twice and twice it was over before the first 5 minutes. He showed mercy after 10-0. What got under my skin and my ego was when he told me he could run one of our practices to help us improve. Well, the second time we played them we play super hard and let the girl go all out and I taught CJ that the ball was from an alien planet and dude went crazy. We still lost. Coach dad told me to get my players under control and I just smiled and we told the kids to play harder. Dude pulled his kids off the field because the girl on our team was going nuts. This is true story. I told the guy to relax and stop being so intense and he got all mad.
SoccerFan4Life
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It's such a mental and emotional rollercoaster for most kids. It's easier to get demoted when they are very young.
Whey my little girl was 7 she was demoted from a low level flight 2 team to a flight 3 team that was just forming. She was sad but at that age they just wanted to play. We found a great coach that focused on her footwork. Now she is on a flight 1 team and guesting with the ECRL team. Lesson Learned: I will not move her up unless she is dominating at her current level to avoid bench play and demotions in the future.
Whey my little girl was 7 she was demoted from a low level flight 2 team to a flight 3 team that was just forming. She was sad but at that age they just wanted to play. We found a great coach that focused on her footwork. Now she is on a flight 1 team and guesting with the ECRL team. Lesson Learned: I will not move her up unless she is dominating at her current level to avoid bench play and demotions in the future.
All is fair in love and basketball.. I mean soccer!
"We have good news girls, you all made the club. Welcome to the family."
Eagle33
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It is sad, but many parents are that stupid, specially the ones with the first child playing soccer. The excitement that their child made a big club is all they need at that moment. I've had a conversation with a parent like this in the past and it went like this:
-my kid went to a tryout at (insert the name here) and have been offered a spot, we are so excited!
-what level team?
-don't know
-who is the coach?
-don't know....wait a second, not sure why we didn't ask about that
-still considering the spot?
-not sure anymore.....
Liverpool?
That's why some clubs go 7 teams deep at certain age groups.
It might be a smart move. Cover your bets. My pal's kid loved his new coach and was all excited but then the new coach bailed before he was coach and now the new coach of this new team is full of players that this new coach is bringing. He had another offer but went all in because he bought into the brand and not reality. It sucks and dad is not happy
GoldenGate
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I think you need to take a step back and accept the fact that soccer clubs are businesses. The only stupid parents are the ones who believe there is something wrong with a club making money or trying to bring in enough players to field complete teams. Sometimes financial success requires making offers to 20-30 kids in order to get the 15 or so that are needed to field a second team. It is also impossible for a club to know where it is going to put kids, or even whether it will have enough to form a second team at all, until it has determined who is going to accept an offer, so they often rightfully err on the side of caution.
Honestly, it's pretty nutty that you're upset about the prospect of your kid playing for a club that is financially successful, but by all means feel free to find the shitty unstable ones that are having a hard time filling one roster instead of two. In reality, and we've all seen this 100x, you are really worried because you are worried your kid isn't good enough to make the A team and you don't want to run the risk your kid will end up on the B team. But that's not the club's problem, and shame on you for being upset with a club for trying to to what is best for the kids overall (rather than just yours) by making room for everyone who wants to play soccer. The soccer landscape is littered with plenty of small clubs that are desperate for players to play on their A team, so go find one of those.
Yes shame on me for thinking a tryout is for talent identification. If you are taking everybody, don't call it a tryout.
Jamis, watch out man. I see your new and I got your back bro. This Golden Gate is something else. He was "End of the Line" and then became "EOTL." Dom, our head Admin tech and owner of this place banished him from the forum earlier in the year but he came back as GG. Other aliases he goes by; The Long Game, Espola, Husler the Husker Du and I think maybe Dad4 and Evil Goalie.
GoldenGate
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I can see you are a really intelligent fellow who isn't fooled by clubs using the term "tryout" as part of their nefarious plot to ruin the future of as many children as possible. Clearly, they used that term to intentionally dupe people into paying them money in exchange for kids being able to play on a soccer team. So mean of them.
Don't try to pretend you're upset about semantics. If you don't think they were evaluating which kids are best suited for the different level teams they are trying to put together, ok, good luck in your future endeavors. Also don't assume the club knew it was taking everyone at the outset. Like many clubs, they probably decided they had enough kids at tryouts to make a new team work and had enough flexibility as a big club to take all the kids who tried out. Why are you even angry that a club is finding a spot for everyone who wants to play? Anyone who isn't a petty selfish douche would look at a club finding a place for everyone who wants to play as a decision that deserves a lot of praise. Why do you even care that a club is going to field a team of bad soccer players playing bad soccer? We all know the answer has nothing to do with the noun they selected for their flyer, and everything to do with your lack of confidence that your child will make the top level team and your concern that they will "get stuck" playing with kids who aren't good enough for you but, in reality, are probably right around your child's actual objective ability level.
SoccerFan4Life
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My younger boys couldnt get into a club around- 2010 to 2011 years ( 7 to 8 years of age). Back then I recall that club didnt really start until after 9 or 10 years of age. It feels like around the year 2014 through now, anyone can get into a club. I am already seeing announcements for the kids born in 2016 age group.