You hit on a key point here in my opinion. I think it's important to consider that you're getting 2nd team coaches with ECRL, which aren't always the greatest depending on the club. With GA your often looking at a club's top coaches, with names like Swanson at West Coast, Lalor at Albion and Walker at City for example. Not to mention more of a club's attention and resources. Coach, team, league, club, in that order.
GA, ECRL is there a difference??
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You hit on a key point here in my opinion. I think it's important to consider that you're getting 2nd team coaches with ECRL, which aren't always the greatest depending on the club. With GA your often looking at a club's top coaches, with names like Swanson at West Coast, Lalor at Albion and Walker at City for example. Not to mention more of a club's attention and resources. Coach, team, league, club, in that order.
SoccerFan4Life
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1. ECNL
2. Top tier ECRL teams
3. GA
4. Bottom tier ECRL/discovery teams/ all other semi academy programs.
So you're saying that all GA teams can beat bottom tier ECRL teams. Sorry this is not the case. There might be a couple of "good" GA teams in the Southwest division but theres a larger number of poor GA teams. Also all GA teams are going to get picked over by ECNL clubs year over year.
Maybe, but it still probably depends on age group and coaches for me. I should also say that I don't think being on the ecrl team is a real advantage to making that club's ecnl team. The ecnl coach will take the best player if they have a spot to fill next year, regardless of what club they play for this year.
Well, in southwest, there aren't a "large number" of ga teams period. Don't kid yourself, many of those ecrl teams are bad and have even worse coaches. And similar to ga getting picked over by ecnl, so will ecrl...both leagues are going to have a problem keeping top players in SoCal.
I agree with everything that you've stated. However getting picked to play on a ECNL team when you're ECRL should be a goal when you're playing ECRL. Also ECNL changed the rules this year and ECRL players can play ECNL games any time of year. GA players would have to register as Discovery if they wanted to do ECNL/RL and theres only 4 per age group.
SoccerFan4Life
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Plenty of ECRL teams (especially for girls) that are just money making machines for the club. The talent is not as good as some discovery teams. It’s very tough for an ECRL player to make it to ECNL. ECNL teams will recruit from other ECNL or GA teams before they go to ECRL. I know of many situations where clubs had to get an ECRL team added regardless of the talent.
It would be interesting to see some stats at the end of the year on the number of ecrl players who got any meaningful minutes in ecnl this year. I am sure there will be some, but think it will be pretty rare.
That would surprise me on the girls side.
Yes, ecRL vs GA. The question was never ecNL vs GA.
I think it depends on the club and the area. If you are ECRL you are second team with all that comes with. You do not get the best the club has to offer and are treated as very replaceable. If you are GA you do get the very best coaches and resources the club has to offer and are treated very well. Development wise I would pick GA over ECRL for those reasons. In Vegas LVSA appears to be the strongest club and they are GA. Their teams would be competitive in SW ECNL.
So in the 2009 age group Las Vegas Surf has a GA team and a Discovery team? I believe the Discovery team just won the Blues Cup beating the Blues 09 ECNL team.
VegasParent
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LV Surf is not in GA, DPL, ECNL, or ECRL.
VegasParent
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On the girls side LVSA is strong in only one age group right now, 03/04. The 07's were good but the top 2 players are now playing full time for a SW ECNL team. The rest of the age groups are average or less and definitely not the strongest in Vegas.
I just remember last year LVSA absolutely destroying teams in DPL. They got GA this year and figured they would do the same. According to YSR they are top in most Girls age groups for this year. Guess we will see.
silverback
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One of the main reasons the coach left was ECNL/RL > GA
Wasn't it more ECNL>GA?
Wasn’t it more $
I don't know much about the circumstances, but I'm confident that it was not about the $. DA folding and more say in/control over club/team decisions seems far more likely.
Before bringing on Mike W Sharks leadership (Shannon M + others) was at a crossroads. Rumor is that ECNL told the club to stop sucking so much or you're out. If this is true Mike held all the cards in the negotiation because if they didn't bring someone like him on leadership was screwed. I'm sure $$$ and control were provided as part of the deal. For Mike as long as he has enough control there's no downside. He's proven that he's able to produce winning teams at multiple clubs. He gets to play at the highest level and can control his own destiny. If you look at the situation objectively DMCV Sharks have always been a diamond in the rough. ECNL, central SD location, surrounded by parents with $$$. What's held them back is poor coaching and leadership. With Mike W as the Girls DOC both will be addressed over time.
I'm sure a large number of players jumped from Albion to Sharks following their coach. But I'm also fairly certain it was because of the opportunities an ECNL club offers.
futboldad1
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The reason they are top ranked on YSR is precisely because they blew out very poor dpl opposition…..ysr rewards blowouts and wins of any nature so after U-13 it becomes increasingly unreliable as strength of schedule for say Heat ECNL is way tougher to get wins and blowouts………
Also the above post about sharks being warned about being so bad so get better or they lose ecnl is true……