G05 CAS Rankings

Yeah, every week there are a dozen or so games that have scores go unreported for 3 or 4 days. Often the same teams.
 
stork71 said:
Probably would help if the home team manager reports their games in a reasonable time so the weekly rankings would reflect this past weekends games. The reporting process takes less than 2 minutes from start to finish.
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Raises hand. So the home team is responsible for reporting the score? Need to bug our coach tonight as our Saturday score hasn't been put in.
 
socalkdg said:
Raises hand. So the home team is responsible for reporting the score? Need to bug our coach tonight as our Saturday score hasn't been put in.
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The coach doesn't do it... the team manager does..at least that's how both clubs we have been at did it. There is an app. Phoneitin takes less than a minute.
 
Ranking and rating teams based on results rather than technical and tactical superiority is the problem in this country. Especially with respect to the very youngest of players.
 
genesis said:
Ranking and rating teams based on results rather than technical and tactical superiority is the problem in this country. Especially with respect to the very youngest of players.
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Which three or four teams at this age group do you think have the best technical and tactical superiority?
 
TangoCity said:
Which three or four teams at this age group do you think have the best technical and tactical superiority?
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Thank you for your difficult question. Kind of like does this outfit make me look fat. Nevertheless I open myself to criticism based on my opinions. First let me say I have seen many teams that lack the talent (goal scoring) of the major powers yet they emphasize the attempt to pass the ball to one another. Example: Real So Cal, no slight intended. Being generous: at various degrees, LA Galaxy, Surf, Strikers, Blues, Beach. It also happens to be that they are the teams with the most talented players and thus get the best results. While these are accurately among your highest ranked teams, I don't care to look at the rankings so I am not exactly sure, differentiating among this handful of teams is a matter of how one sees the game. After all, what is "good" soccer? I am of the opinion that percentage of possession should be taken into consideration when ranking teams. How can one rank a players understanding of a nutmeg? Now I have to get over to Aleppo and see if there is anything I can do.
 
I understand what genesis is saying. Using my daughters club team as an example, we have played one team this year that I thought is better than us, but our record in league is 2-2-2. We have trouble finishing. In both ties and one of the losses we out shot the other teams on average 12-6, but we are only scoring 1-2 goals a game. We lack a great striker. The team plays support, is working on using the keeper on defense, and will try to string 3-4 passes together. I'm happy with the direction of the team, everyone plays at least half the game with a 15 person roster, players are moved around to different positions, the girls are learning and improving, but our record may not ever show us doing as well as I feel we are doing.
 
LOL at arguing over these rankings. What makes a good team? Winning. Why is that so hard to swallow? These rankings aren't trying to deduce the best clubs, or the best coaching staffs, they're simply ranking the teams currently playing each other. I can only imagine the discussions you could have re college football on this topic - sure, Alabama wins, but is Saban teaching the game properly? Will his D-linemen thrive in the NFL or are they just winning because they're bigger than everyone else right now? And yeah, sure, they score a lot of TD's but there are definitely a lot of great teams that play well but don't have great receivers - should we rank them lower just because they don't have those go-to guys?
 
Sped said:
LOL at arguing over these rankings. What makes a good team? Winning. Why is that so hard to swallow? These rankings aren't trying to deduce the best clubs, or the best coaching staffs, they're simply ranking the teams currently playing each other. I can only imagine the discussions you could have re college football on this topic - sure, Alabama wins, but is Saban teaching the game properly? Will his D-linemen thrive in the NFL or are they just winning because they're bigger than everyone else right now? And yeah, sure, they score a lot of TD's but there are definitely a lot of great teams that play well but don't have great receivers - should we rank them lower just because they don't have those go-to guys?
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Completing agree, but arguing over the rankings is half the fun. Who has this team played, that 2 loss team is better than the undefeated team, that conference should get 2 teams in, not just one. Then you have the NFL draft to also justify how good these schools are at producing top players. Players go to schools not just for the record, but for how well players are developed and make the NFL. Cal Bears are 40-52 last 7 1/2 years, but have 41 players in the NFL, ranking 15 overall.
 
socalkdg said:
Completing agree, but arguing over the rankings is half the fun. Who has this team played, that 2 loss team is better than the undefeated team, that conference should get 2 teams in, not just one. Then you have the NFL draft to also justify how good these schools are at producing top players. Players go to schools not just for the record, but for how well players are developed and make the NFL. Cal Bears are 40-52 last 7 1/2 years, but have 41 players in the NFL, ranking 15 overall.
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Club soccer has college recruiting to tell you how well players are developed.
 
Sped said:
LOL at arguing over these rankings. What makes a good team? Winning. Why is that so hard to swallow? These rankings aren't trying to deduce the best clubs, or the best coaching staffs, they're simply ranking the teams currently playing each other. I can only imagine the discussions you could have re college football on this topic - sure, Alabama wins, but is Saban teaching the game properly? Will his D-linemen thrive in the NFL or are they just winning because they're bigger than everyone else right now? And yeah, sure, they score a lot of TD's but there are definitely a lot of great teams that play well but don't have great receivers - should we rank them lower just because they don't have those go-to guys?
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Why rank, with your logic we can just look at league results and use that as a ranking. Let's rank all the players from top to bottom on our particular team that will be fun to speculate, even though we have heard the parental rankings on our sideline when so and so makes a mistake. That would be fun. I have seen the top drawer rankings, ranking kids from 1 to 100. Come on people what healthy reason is there to do this other than to inflate a parent's ego. Hey did you hear our team is ranked number three in California and we just beat the national champions, that must make us number one. Kid yourselves if you will but this ranking stuff is part of the problem I often hear people complaining about, unless of course we are number one.
 
genesis said:
Why rank, with your logic we can just look at league results and use that as a ranking. Let's rank all the players from top to bottom on our particular team that will be fun to speculate, even though we have heard the parental rankings on our sideline when so and so makes a mistake. That would be fun. I have seen the top drawer rankings, ranking kids from 1 to 100. Come on people what healthy reason is there to do this other than to inflate a parent's ego. Hey did you hear our team is ranked number three in California and we just beat the national champions, that must make us number one. Kid yourselves if you will but this ranking stuff is part of the problem I often hear people complaining about, unless of course we are number one.
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Wait, I'm not clear - do you like the rankings or no?
 
socalkdg said:
I understand what genesis is saying. Using my daughters club team as an example, we have played one team this year that I thought is better than us, but our record in league is 2-2-2. We have trouble finishing. In both ties and one of the losses we out shot the other teams on average 12-6, but we are only scoring 1-2 goals a game. We lack a great striker. The team plays support, is working on using the keeper on defense, and will try to string 3-4 passes together. I'm happy with the direction of the team, everyone plays at least half the game with a 15 person roster, players are moved around to different positions, the girls are learning and improving, but our record may not ever show us doing as well as I feel we are doing.
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Again, the rankings are simply a reflection of who's winning. It's not a value judgment on your team, coach or club. My kid's got a great team, but there are 2 kids who don't belong. They lose games because of them. That doesn't negate the great soccer the rest of the girls play, but it does necessarily impact their win/loss record. And if you're playing our team, you don't care if the girls are growing, improving etc., you just want to know how they stack up and what your odds are.
 
Sped said:
Again, the rankings are simply a reflection of who's winning. It's not a value judgment on your team, coach or club. My kid's got a great team, but there are 2 kids who don't belong. They lose games because of them. That doesn't negate the great soccer the rest of the girls play, but it does necessarily impact their win/loss record. And if you're playing our team, you don't care if the girls are growing, improving etc., you just want to know how they stack up and what your odds are.
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Part of me sometimes thinks some of the kids don't belong on our team, and if we had a quality striker, we would have a better record, but then I remember that they have just turned 11, and that the growth and development they will experience in the next two years could completely reshape which players contribute and which ones don't. I've noticed a trend with many of the teams I've watched that have good records, they all have 1-2 players that provide almost all their scoring. Our team still rotates players with 7-8 different girls playing forward in a game.

I rotate girls a lot on the AYSO team I coach, but during this past tournament the girls played a more specific roll than in the past.

It will be interesting to look at the rankings while watching how the CSL League Cup pans out.
 
My congratulations to the Galaxy parents for getting DA. It would have been a travesty if, moving forward, our girls and other teams had been prevented from competing against your girls as an LAGalaxy team.
 
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