ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

Fact said:
"Everyone who pays taxes and has had kids playing at an elite club level should ALL have EQUAL access to the YNT" ????? What about the kiddo that does not live within driving distance to an "Elite Club," cannot afford an elite club or just simply decides to play for a local club with a great coach? Over the years, I have seen many talented kiddos that don't even get looked at by ODP because their coach is not connected.

You're the classic I want my cake and eat it too. You as much admit that you moved your DD to Surf to create a super team to compete for the National Championship. I believe this is the age group of Jeremy's and Bryan's DD and while one was rightfully on the team, this team was manufactured around a certain player. That meant purposely taking away from the other power teams in Socal including Blues. That's were your DD and her teammates that moved to Surf became important; drain the talent at Blues to get past the Socal competition. And you went there for the dream, not the coach like should be the focus.

You must have wondered why certain players make the A team at Surf or why some kiddos get more playing time when skill level does not seem to mesh. Were you ever offered privates in exchange for making sure your player never came off the field? I am not sure what age group won the National Championship but that behavior was quiet prevalent at the younger age groups of Surf.

Unfortunately life is not fair and everyone has to decide what is best for them. Yes it sucks that Surf DA players that go to private schools like Francis Parker and Bishops play on the high school team. If I were friends with any such families, I would start to question my friendship with these less than scrupulous people. Maybe spend your time exposing these injustices or maybe in the grand scheme of things you can at least be proud of your DD for standing up for what she believes in and enjoy watching her play. The time goes by fast.
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@Fact, please stay away from me and my posts. TY. My first time meeting the famous Fact!!!!
 
Not posting this to bag on ECNL, same can probably be said for many DA teams.

From Soccer America Today, posting a Tweet from Eddie Johnson (former US pro):

"I'm literally watching the u-17 girls @theECNL college showcase here in Orlando Florida and I can't believe the level of play of girls in our country at 17 years old technically and tactically it's embarrassing and disappointing to the sport. I'm literally looking at these games and I don't know how these college coaches can watch and what are they looking for when the ball is in the air 95 percent of the time. Soccer is a creative game and requires intelligent players. There's nothing intelligent in watching a player smack the the ball as hard as they can up the field when they have time and space. This is shocking. I really feel bad watching all these clubs steal these parents hard earned money and aren't developing their kids properly."

-- Former U.S. international Eddie Johnson on the play at the January ECNL Showcase in Sanford, Florida, near Orlando, where he is a youth coach. (@eddie_johnson7)
 
sdb said:
Not posting this to bag on ECNL, same can probably be said for many DA teams.

From Soccer America Today, posting a Tweet from Eddie Johnson (former US pro):

"I'm literally watching the u-17 girls @theECNL college showcase here in Orlando Florida and I can't believe the level of play of girls in our country at 17 years old technically and tactically it's embarrassing and disappointing to the sport. I'm literally looking at these games and I don't know how these college coaches can watch and what are they looking for when the ball is in the air 95 percent of the time. Soccer is a creative game and requires intelligent players. There's nothing intelligent in watching a player smack the the ball as hard as they can up the field when they have time and space. This is shocking. I really feel bad watching all these clubs steal these parents hard earned money and aren't developing their kids properly."

-- Former U.S. international Eddie Johnson on the play at the January ECNL Showcase in Sanford, Florida, near Orlando, where he is a youth coach. (@eddie_johnson7)
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It certainly can be said of many DA teams and college programs unfortunately. It is embarrassing. Spot on Eddie Johnson.
 
RSD said:
It certainly can be said of many DA teams and college programs unfortunately. It is embarrassing. Spot on Eddie Johnson.
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The reality is that clubs here in the US do two things that hamper development.

1) winning over development. If you have a speedy forward kick the ball up to him/her and score all kinds of goals..meanwhile nobody is getting better but the club earns merit points for winning this and that. Kids need to spend more time kicking the ball or going to a wall or going to the park and play, thus increasing their technical and tactical understanding.

2) Too many drills. drills, drills, drills that don't translate into real game situations AND even more importantly, does not encourage creativity.

It's the unfortunate haps of living in a wining culture where winning is the ONLY reason to play. And while that may be true at older ages, it certainly doesn't or shouldn't trump development with the younger kids.
 
sdb said:
Not posting this to bag on ECNL, same can probably be said for many DA teams.

From Soccer America Today, posting a Tweet from Eddie Johnson (former US pro):

"I'm literally watching the u-17 girls @theECNL college showcase here in Orlando Florida and I can't believe the level of play of girls in our country at 17 years old technically and tactically it's embarrassing and disappointing to the sport. I'm literally looking at these games and I don't know how these college coaches can watch and what are they looking for when the ball is in the air 95 percent of the time. Soccer is a creative game and requires intelligent players. There's nothing intelligent in watching a player smack the the ball as hard as they can up the field when they have time and space. This is shocking. I really feel bad watching all these clubs steal these parents hard earned money and aren't developing their kids properly."

-- Former U.S. international Eddie Johnson on the play at the January ECNL Showcase in Sanford, Florida, near Orlando, where he is a youth coach. (@eddie_johnson7)
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He is correct, but as you said.. same can be said for DA teams. However, Eddie Johnson isn't watching the teams he should be watching. There are ECNL and DA teams that are very technical and play in an attractive, intelligent and successful way. I'm guessing he just hasn't seen them, but he needs to make it a point to.
 
Dubs said:
He is correct, but as you said.. same can be said for DA teams. However, Eddie Johnson isn't watching the teams he should be watching. There are ECNL and DA teams that are very technical and play in an attractive, intelligent and successful way. I'm guessing he just hasn't seen them, but he needs to make it a point to.
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To me it's a bit ironic EJ throws this out when to my knowledge he's NEVER coached a team. Only started doing individual training maybe in the last 1-2 years. No matter the playing level someone achieves, go coach a team for a few years then talk. Like anywhere in the world, it depends what you're watching. Go watch the top 2 ECNL and DA teams, I'm pretty sure you will see plenty of technical and smart players.
 
soccer4us said:
To me it's a bit ironic EJ throws this out when to my knowledge he's NEVER coached a team. Only started doing individual training maybe in the last 1-2 years. No matter the playing level someone achieves, go coach a team for a few years then talk. Like anywhere in the world, it depends what you're watching. Go watch the top 2 ECNL and DA teams, I'm pretty sure you will see plenty of technical and smart players.
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Your last statement is exactly my point. It's not even necessarily the top 2 teams. There are a number of teams that come from specific clubs that teach/play very technical football. It's not a huge list, but still, these teams/clubs focus on those aspects of development and have comitted to this style of play. Blanket statements are always dangerous and often make people look stupid.
 
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Dubs said:
Your last statement is exactly my point. It's not even necessarily the top 2 teams. There are a number of teams that come from specific clubs that teach/play very technical football. It's not a huge list, but still, these teams/clubs focus on those aspects of development and have comitted to this style of play. Blanket statements are always dangerous and often make people look stupid.
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Or it was, hey, come get real technical training to improve your game :)

I agree overall. Blanket statements don’t help. I always like to say, don’t complain unless you have a solution. If so, let’s hear it and have a good discussion!
 
soccer4us said:
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Or it was, hey, come get real technical training to improve your game :)

I agree overall. Blanket statements don’t help. I always like to say, don’t complain unless you have a solution. If so, let’s hear it and have a good discussion!
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Or at least if you're going to complain, it should come from an informed place.
 
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