Lambchop
GOLD
Blues wants it all. DA, Pilot 03, ECNL, and DPL. It doesn't seem to be happening, time will tell.
DPL-Pilot Teams
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Lambchop
GOLD
It refers to soccer.
Lambchop
GOLD
Southwest has - DPL - 03 Pilot (same as Frontier division) (mostly DA 03 players from this year, with a few additions)
Southwest has DPL
Southwest has DA
Southwest has ECNL
cerebro de fútbol
SILVER
Not true. That’s why it’s called DPL 03 Pilot and not DA 03 Pilot. The DA 03 Pilot is only in the Frontier Division.
Same boat here. Friends who should be in the know have no confirmation of a change. Time will, in fact, tell. But I find it odd to see posters who were once ecstatic at Blues' participation (because it supposedly gave DPL legitimacy) now celebrating the prospect of Blues not participating. Strange days.
Slammerdad
SILVER
While I believe that anytime you add the Blues to the mix in general (being tournament, leagues, even scrimmages) you up the legitimacy and respect of the competition level. Love them or hate them, they have provided a model of how to run a successful girls program. From their uniforms, to their play style, they always seem to have something special. I think with that said, it's hard always looking up at them so when they are cut down (I remember when they lost access to the Saddleback Church fields, it seemed people were happy), I think people revere in seeming them anguish a little bit. Not really fair to the girls and the teams and I personally respect their program and enjoy their soccer. (Although I conceed that when a Blues team loses, I believe another Angel gets its wings)....
I think they should be included as you state for legitimacy of the Pilot. Ridiculous for them to be left out.
But Blues needs to be forthright as well that unless something has changed since last week, they will not be included.
SimpleSoccer
BRONZE
So apparently the reason Blues are not in anymore is they weren’t willing to commit to the Pilot team being their strongest 03 team.
The league invited all the DA clubs to participate due to there being no 03DA age group for 2018-19 but said that it would have to be built as the clubs A team. If the club had 03 players playing up in DA, no problem, but if they were encouraging the best 03s to play in a different gaming circuit (eg ECNL) then they wouldn’t be allowed to enter. Of course no club or coach can demand a player gives up high school soccer and play on the Pilot team but it was a matter of it needing to be promoted as the top 03 team within the club.
Slammers from the very beginning chose not to do it and had always planned on the best 03s not on the 02DA team next season playing in ECNL. Blues were originally going to be in but then didn’t want to make the necessary assurances to the league.
This would seem to make sense from what people have said on here and what was originally posted on the Blues website regarding coaching assignments. If AR has brought the majority of his Strikers ECNL group to the Blues and they are going to be the ECNL team at the club, then TB’s 03DA are making up the majority of the 02DA next season which meant BH’s current ECNL team was going to become the Pilot team. That means it definitely wasn’t going to be the A team looking at the results & standings of the current ECNL Southwest Conference.
Only questions now would be why Blues held off telling the parents for so long despite the league informing them a couple of weeks ago and what will happen to the players who were signed to the Pilot team?
The league invited all the DA clubs to participate due to there being no 03DA age group for 2018-19 but said that it would have to be built as the clubs A team. If the club had 03 players playing up in DA, no problem, but if they were encouraging the best 03s to play in a different gaming circuit (eg ECNL) then they wouldn’t be allowed to enter. Of course no club or coach can demand a player gives up high school soccer and play on the Pilot team but it was a matter of it needing to be promoted as the top 03 team within the club.
Slammers from the very beginning chose not to do it and had always planned on the best 03s not on the 02DA team next season playing in ECNL. Blues were originally going to be in but then didn’t want to make the necessary assurances to the league.
This would seem to make sense from what people have said on here and what was originally posted on the Blues website regarding coaching assignments. If AR has brought the majority of his Strikers ECNL group to the Blues and they are going to be the ECNL team at the club, then TB’s 03DA are making up the majority of the 02DA next season which meant BH’s current ECNL team was going to become the Pilot team. That means it definitely wasn’t going to be the A team looking at the results & standings of the current ECNL Southwest Conference.
Only questions now would be why Blues held off telling the parents for so long despite the league informing them a couple of weeks ago and what will happen to the players who were signed to the Pilot team?
I have zero knowledge on any of this. But my guess is that they are trying to figure out an alternative that gives the players what they were promised.
Or they are waiting until it is too late to move to another club and these players won’t have any choice but to stick around and play the hand they are dealt.
Maybe Blues should take the DPL Pilot off their website until everything is worked out? And should this be under DP League and not DA? http://www.scblues.com/
What exactly would they be passing up by sticking around?
Lime and blue uniform?
The chance to be on the full DA team next year?
Maybe they like the coach?
Maybe they want to play HS soccer at J Serra? Or Aliso Niguel?
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Getting on an ecnl team or another pilot team or playing hs soccer? A lot is at stake for these players.
cerebro de fútbol
SILVER
Seems to me that if DPL "lets" the Blues have an o3 Pilot Team, none of the girls will make Blues 03/04 DA team the following year.
Like I said earlier in this thread it's all about the $$$$.
All of BHs kids already played HS. They all agreed to give it up for the pilot. So it wasn’t about HS. They got screwed. Screwed from trying out at other DA or pilot teams. Heck the 02-03 pats DA team should be a disaster once again. Most of those kids could play on that team. But DR has probably already made the same mistake he made before this season.
1) ECNL: The players I know already tried to make an ECNL roster.
2) DPL-Pilot at Other Clubs: I'm not aware of a big exodus of Slammers 03 players for DPL Pilot clubs (or disastrous DA teams). Can't presume anything different would have occurred here.
3) HS: Seems unlikely a HS coach would deny a good player a chance to join who has only just now become available to play.
If you know an actual player on this roster who has these things at risk, I'll stand corrected.
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DPL saying, “No” doesn’t do much for DPL.
Why do we need DPL?
Why do we need ECNL?
Maybe we need DA for a consistent training methodology for the top players.
But why not just play Flight 1/Premier and attend showcases?
Aren’t the teams that are in DA most of the teams that started SCDSL? You’d think they would want to protect their cash cow league.
Now you have teams like OC Surf with a DA team. A DPL team. And a flight 1 team. For anything over age 12. Seems they at least have a strategy for their pathway to the top. Will be curious to see how all of these teams fair this Fall.
Why do we need ECNL?
Maybe we need DA for a consistent training methodology for the top players.
But why not just play Flight 1/Premier and attend showcases?
Aren’t the teams that are in DA most of the teams that started SCDSL? You’d think they would want to protect their cash cow league.
Now you have teams like OC Surf with a DA team. A DPL team. And a flight 1 team. For anything over age 12. Seems they at least have a strategy for their pathway to the top. Will be curious to see how all of these teams fair this Fall.
In the end, every family is a paying customer. The more options the better. If you kid can play any level, you decide. There’s been so much whining about HS. No kid I know that played DA this year, cared about missing HS. I already know several 02s bailing on HS to play DA. I also know many kids who are thriving at ECNL who also play HS who are perfectly happy.
Fight one soccer is pretty sloppy. Balls are all over the air, flying around out of bounds. Lots of sloppy challenges. For some, it’s a good place. For others, it may not be attractive.
All of these choices is a wonderful thing. Is club soccer over saturated? You betcha. But people keep signing up and playing. Clubs keep adding teams.
So everyone should be happy.
Fight one soccer is pretty sloppy. Balls are all over the air, flying around out of bounds. Lots of sloppy challenges. For some, it’s a good place. For others, it may not be attractive.
All of these choices is a wonderful thing. Is club soccer over saturated? You betcha. But people keep signing up and playing. Clubs keep adding teams.
So everyone should be happy.