D1 college soccer under threat

[younothat]

Question will be, if a player opts out of school this year, will he/she be able to keep the spot once everything returns to normal next year?
I would assume that training will be happening, even though the season is canceled.

Was arranging his dorm room when the PAC-12 cancel came down, enrolled so not opting out of college and they have been working out so just strongly leaning toward opting out of a competition for this season not college, redshirt path but maybe a little different

He trying to get clarification on the topic along the lines what that above article mentions. His scholarship won't be effected for this year at least according to his coach and advisers.

"The D-I Council has recommended for the NCAA’s Board of Governors to provide fall sport student-athletes who compete and then opt out of future participation or have a season cut short due to COVID-19: (1) an extension of their five-year period of eligibility; and (2) an additional season of competition if they participate in 50% or less of the maximum number of competitions allowed in each sport by Division I rules.

Members will further discuss additional Board of Governors requirements, including a prohibition on canceling, reducing or not renewing athletics aid for student-athletes who opt out of participation due to COVID-19 and required medical coverage for COVID-19 if a student contracts the virus through sports participation.”

Young man might be a little biggest concern was how small the dorm & the space: the bed in there is for "middle schoolers" he texted me the other day, used to a nice big comfy queen size higher end ortho bed, and all the other goodies he has a home. Adjustments son I told him, get used to it or bargain with the roomie to fit a bigger bed, not sure there room in there for queen plus another one, desks, and closets space of if you can bring in your own stuff?

@younothat might be a good move. Glad to see you dd is really weighing her options.

@gotothebushes thanks for the mention our older daughter is a medical student 3rd year doing well but going to be tough to get in all the clinical hours with how things are going.

Barely got in enough hours last go around after they were cut off for a few months. She decided to focus on college, her education, and civic mentoring she does with kids rather than play soccer in college. She thought long and hard about that decision and has been happy with it so I'm proud of her for making a difference and that decision. The work shes done with the kids this summer virtually has been very rewarding for her.

 

[gotothebushes]

Was arranging his dorm room when the PAC-12 cancel came down, enrolled so not opting out of college and they have been working out so just strongly leaning toward opting out of a competition for this season not college, redshirt path but maybe a little different

He trying to get clarification on the topic along the lines what that above article mentions. His scholarship won't be effected for this year at least according to his coach and advisers.

"The D-I Council has recommended for the NCAA’s Board of Governors to provide fall sport student-athletes who compete and then opt out of future participation or have a season cut short due to COVID-19: (1) an extension of their five-year period of eligibility; and (2) an additional season of competition if they participate in 50% or less of the maximum number of competitions allowed in each sport by Division I rules.

Members will further discuss additional Board of Governors requirements, including a prohibition on canceling, reducing or not renewing athletics aid for student-athletes who opt out of participation due to COVID-19 and required medical coverage for COVID-19 if a student contracts the virus through sports participation.”

Young man might be a little biggest concern was how small the dorm & the space: the bed in there is for "middle schoolers" he texted me the other day, used to a nice big comfy queen size higher end ortho bed, and all the other goodies he has a home. Adjustments son I told him, get used to it or bargain with the roomie to fit a bigger bed, not sure there room in there for queen plus another one, desks, and closets space of if you can bring in your own stuff?



@gotothebushes thanks for the mention our older daughter is a medical student 3rd year doing well but going to be tough to get in all the clinical hours with how things are going.

Barely got in enough hours last go around after they were cut off for a few months. She decided to focus on college, her education, and civic mentoring she does with kids rather than play soccer in college. She thought long and hard about that decision and has been happy with it so I'm proud of her for making a difference and that decision. The work shes done with the kids this summer virtually has been very rewarding for her.

Stories I love hearing!

 

[Simisoccerfan]

Okay NCAA has shutdown all fall championships. The good thing is that Mark spoke strongly about trying to have Fall sport championships in the Spring instead of taking the D2 and D3 route. If this doesn't happen and Spring is just a few games or no games everyone will have another year of elgibility. If it does happen and your kid sits out their Scholarship will be protected for this year. The key is most scholarships renew year by year and if your kid sits out what are the chances the coach makes changes to the scholarship offer for next year?

 

[eastbaysoccer]

If a coach takes away money it will be the year after next. Next year is safe. So if your dd is a junior all is good.

 

[espola]

If a coach takes away money it will be the year after next. Next year is safe. So if your dd is a junior all is good.

That's optimistic.

 

[eastbaysoccer]

State College, PA - Penn State Athletics Planning for Furloughs -

Penn State Athletics is preparing for furloughs across the department, Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics Sandy Barbour told department employees during a Zoom call on Wednesday afternoon.

www.statecollege.com

The aftermath that will hit ALL athletic departments soon. WCC doesn’t have football but lost money from the cancellation of the Basketball and continue
To lose money in housing and tuition.

 

[MakeAPlay]

State College, PA - Penn State Athletics Planning for Furloughs -

Penn State Athletics is preparing for furloughs across the department, Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics Sandy Barbour told department employees during a Zoom call on Wednesday afternoon.

www.statecollege.com

The aftermath that will hit ALL athletic departments soon. WCC doesn’t have football but lost money from the cancellation of the Basketball and continue
To lose money in housing and tuition.

This sucks.

 

[HoopsCoach]

That's including the Big XII and the SEC saying they are moving forward? You've been tracking . . . how long until the ACC drops? And do you expect the Big XII and SEC to take all the way to the first to occur of (i) an outbreak or (ii) a completed season or do you think they will, ultimately, pull the plug?

My daughter who plays at USD told us that the this year (as far as eligibility is concerned) will not impact players. Seems like it's a gimme year for teams that want to move forward and play but kids will still get that year back. That's great for some kids and could possibly get a year of grad school paid for!

 

[msoccerm]

The title of this thread is - Div 1 College Soccer Under Threat. Universities are losing a lot of money and if things continue the way they are - I think that it has to be under threat. Are the Golden Years over? Universities will have to drop sports/cut athletic budgets and tuition costs will rise. I wonder if the better US and International players will skip the US college system and go straight to Europe or the NWSL and the quality of college soccer drops dramatically. The US economy will take years to recover - will parents stop wasting money on travel sports and kids start focusing on academics?

 

[Mystery Train]

Are the Golden Years over?

Yes.

I wonder if the better US and International players will skip the US college system and go straight to Europe or the NWSL and the quality of college soccer drops dramatically.

Yes.

he US economy will take years to recover - will parents stop wasting money on travel sports and kids start focusing on academics?

NEVER!!!! LOL... but they should.

 

[msoccerm]

@Mystery Train Universities are struggling at the moment to stay afloat. How will there be scholarship offers like before - especially for non-revenue generating sports like soccer?

Maybe it's time for the NWSL to expand or have a second tier/development league for the players that want to continue playing (and make some money) when they graduate from high school.

 

[MSK357]

@Mystery Train Universities are struggling at the moment to stay afloat. How will there be scholarship offers like before - especially for non-revenue generating sports like soccer?

Maybe it's time for the NWSL to expand or have a second tier/development league for the players that want to continue playing (and make some money) when they graduate from high school.

umm...isnt NWSL struggling as well? how are they going to support a 2nd tier/development league when they can barely pay their players now?

 

[dad4]

@Mystery Train Universities are struggling at the moment to stay afloat. How will there be scholarship offers like before - especially for non-revenue generating sports like soccer?

Maybe it's time for the NWSL to expand or have a second tier/development league for the players that want to continue playing (and make some money) when they graduate from high school.

A second tier league exists, called WPSL. www.wpslsoccer.com

It’s a place to play, but not really a place to make money. NWSL can barely pay their top tier players.

But, tickets are cheap and the games are good.

 

[notintheface]

A second tier league exists, called WPSL. www.wpslsoccer.com

It’s a place to play, but not really a place to make money. NWSL can barely pay their top tier players.

But, tickets are cheap and the games are good.

Can confirm this -- you get a lot of college students coming back to play during the summer.

 

[dad4]

Can confirm this -- you get a lot of college students coming back to play during the summer.

That's my impression. Place to keep in shape over summer break.

 

[msoccerm]

WPSL is only a summer league.

If NWSL is struggling to pay players in a country where the women's team just won the World Cup and have been ranked #1 for a long time there is a problem. But if your player is only playing soccer for a college scholarship then you probably don't care.

 

[Lifeisnotfare]

WPSL is only a summer league.

If NWSL is struggling to pay players in a country where the women's team just won the World Cup and have been ranked #1 for a long time there is a problem. But if your player is only playing soccer for a college scholarship then you probably don't care.

Title 9 made girls soccer a big time business for a few and the girls dont get paid. They get admitted to a U with a few scholarship bucks and that's it. No pro at all really, yet its the females who did all the work. We need a pro league like Spain does with their goats. 99% of us were taught to go to college and if you dont, you fail in the game of life. That is BS right there and brain washing.

 

[Desert Hound]

athletic budgets and tuition costs will rise.

If they raise tuition, they only make things worse. College costs have far outpaced inflation now for some time.

will parents stop wasting money on travel sports and kids start focusing on academics

If universities stopped making their campuses look like country clubs (fancy dorms, eateries, etc.). Much of the cost increase in college relates to their building projects to make the campuses look cooler vs others...which in the end have very little to do with academics...but have raised the cost of going to college.

It is funny...many are not doing in person classes...but at the same time still have students in dorms.Why? Well they can charge for online tuition and so whether they are in class or not matters little. But if the students are not in the dorms..that is a big hit financially.

This is what we are seeing in our AZ universities right now in terms of what they have students doing.

 

[Mystery Train]

@Mystery Train Universities are struggling at the moment to stay afloat. How will there be scholarship offers like before - especially for non-revenue generating sports like soccer?

Maybe it's time for the NWSL to expand or have a second tier/development league for the players that want to continue playing (and make some money) when they graduate from high school.

I think there will be smaller rosters in some programs where they try to keep the same scholarship levels, thus having to spread the $ over a smaller number of players. There will be other schools that eliminate sports (similar to what Stanford did on a different scale) to save money, there will be coaching and resource cuts. Smaller, less funded programs will have to do with fewer new supplies, re-using equipment, etc. So yeah, the "golden days" are done. However, Title 9 will still require scholarship opportunites be there for women's soccer, so it won't be zero. I'd also like to point out the the scholarship "opportunities" in WoSo as it is have been greatly exaggerated or overestimated in our youth soccer culture.

 

[MakeAPlay]

@Mystery Train Universities are struggling at the moment to stay afloat. How will there be scholarship offers like before - especially for non-revenue generating sports like soccer?

Maybe it's time for the NWSL to expand or have a second tier/development league for the players that want to continue playing (and make some money) when they graduate from high school.

Europe pays better than the NWSL in most cases believe it or not. Lot's of players are going over on loans or are asking to be waived so that they can play in Europe. The NWSL doesn't have a plan for the spring yet. They are focused on playing friendlies in September and October and many of the players have gotten wise to this and are going overseas. They only talk about the WNT players that go but believe me their are dozens of players headed to Europe.

 

[El Clasico]

I think there will be smaller rosters in some programs where they try to keep the same scholarship levels, thus having to spread the $ over a smaller number of players. There will be other schools that eliminate sports (similar to what Stanford did on a different scale) to save money, there will be coaching and resource cuts. Smaller, less funded programs will have to do with fewer new supplies, re-using equipment, etc. So yeah, the "golden days" are done. However, Title 9 will still require scholarship opportunites be there for women's soccer, so it won't be zero. I'd also like to point out the the scholarship "opportunities" in WoSo as it is have been greatly exaggerated or overestimated in our youth soccer culture.

I don't think that roster size will be affected since the far end of the bench doesn't see any meaningful money anyway. Not nearly as many players are getting money as people seem to think.