D1 college soccer under threat

MacDre said:
All very true. Things have changed-Mexico has a system now. I love how people brag about how the USWNT beats teams with no backing. I would like to see the US be successful. However, I don’t feel confident after evaluating club soccer and college soccer because of low standards.
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I don't feel confident saying Mexico is good at anything other than corruption and food.
 
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And when he can not answer a direct question it gets refuted he does the political thing and ignores and moves on.
 
vegasguy said:
And when he can not answer a direct question it gets refuted he does the political thing and ignores and moves on.
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Good morning coach. I can sell ice to a Eskimo. Water to a whale. I can even talk a cat off the back of a fish truck. What is it that you falsely claim that a Macateer such as myself can’t answer? Coach, do you have a fever?
 
Also, the one chart you brought up had one big issue for me that I would like to discuss with you today. Is that possible coach?
 
Kicknit22 said:
Holy crap! It just hit me. Ellejustus and MacDre are the same guy. Damn! Nice one dude! 19 pages of this show. You had me going, brudda! Thanks for the entertainment. Almost Platinum for both Avatar too!! Impressive.
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Hey bro, I'm good at playing "Me and MacDre." I learned the hood by going down to South Central to see MacDre every week when we were little guys. I would go down from Laguna and have plays dates at the park with him and his friends all the time. In fact, I found a pic of my mom helping out one of MacDres cousins.

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MacDre said:
Good morning coach. I can sell ice to a Eskimo. Water to a whale. I can even talk a cat off the back of a fish truck. What is it that you falsely claim that a Macateer such as myself can’t answer? Coach, do you have a fever?
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I send you a list of US Born Women on the Mex NT Roster this year. And you respond with "don't trip when you are looking back". This is an answer non answer. The point is these women who I am sure are excellent soccer players can not make the US Roster but you say Mex is passing us. Where is your proof outside of an exhibition game. Hell an MLS team can beat a Prem team in Exhibition. Additionally, I will take UCLA 9 out of 10 games over the current MEX WNT. I give you absolutes when discussing citizenship with Dest, Green, Jones etc and ask how you pass the FIFA test. You make a simple statement of I have a British passport which we know does not pass the FIFA test. So have you compared your assumptions including France to the FIFA guidelines?

I like the conversation and this is not bashing thing by any means. I also hope your daughter is successful. But when asked a question or refuted in your argument, you tac like you are in America's Cup and change the topic.

So how does your passport allow your daughter to be a British Citizen? ( I get their current keeper played for and was trained by Pats in socal)
How has Mex NT passed US or is passing US knowing they still come to America for starters? (yes we go to Germany on the mens side so seems similar)

This is all cooped up banter and means nothing in the real world and as parents we have strong opinions and beliefs but you bash a system I coach and have a player in with no real reason to do so. I am just asking for proof more than conjecture.
 
vegasguy said:
I send you a list of US Born Women on the Mex NT Roster this year. And you respond with "don't trip when you are looking back". This is an answer non answer. The point is these women who I am sure are excellent soccer players can not make the US Roster but you say Mex is passing us. Where is your proof outside of an exhibition game. Hell an MLS team can beat a Prem team in Exhibition. Additionally, I will take UCLA 9 out of 10 games over the current MEX WNT. I give you absolutes when discussing citizenship with Dest, Green, Jones etc and ask how you pass the FIFA test. You make a simple statement of I have a British passport which we know does not pass the FIFA test. So have you compared your assumptions including France to the FIFA guidelines?

I like the conversation and this is not bashing thing by any means. I also hope your daughter is successful. But when asked a question or refuted in your argument, you tac like you are in America's Cup and change the topic.

So how does your passport allow your daughter to be a British Citizen? ( I get their current keeper played for and was trained by Pats in socal)
How has Mex NT passed US or is passing US knowing they still come to America for starters? (yes we go to Germany on the mens side so seems similar)

This is all cooped up banter and means nothing in the real world and as parents we have strong opinions and beliefs but you bash a system I coach and have a player in with no real reason to do so. I am just asking for proof more than conjecture.
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When I was born, the Bahamas was part of the UK. I was born under the old CUKC status. When the Bahamas became independent, I opted to convert my CUKC status to British citizenship and permanent resident belonger status in the Bahamas. I am British Otherwise than by descent (which is the best) I am also a registered commoner on commonage land that British royalty often vacation. I don’t understand why you don’t get that my kid is just as British as she is American. She was entitled to citizenship at birth for both the UK and US. My kid IS (already has passport) British otherwise than by descent.

I agree with your analysis about Mexican soccer. However, you refuse to acknowledge change has taken place. Mexico and the UK been very sexist and didn’t support women playing soccer in the past. Now, that these girls are in professional environments things are changing. Most on the forum agree that men’s football in Europe and Mexico is superior to the MLS. Even the commissioner of the MLS thinks Liga MX is better.

So if Mexican girls are now training in an environment that the MLS commissioner openly admits is better than the highest level of soccer in the US-why can’t you forsee substantial improvement on the Mexican side and the need to adjust or get left behind?
 
MacDre said:
When I was born, the Bahamas was part of the UK. I was born under the old CUKC status. When the Bahamas became independent, I opted to convert my CUKC status to British citizenship and permanent resident belonger status in the Bahamas. I am British Otherwise than by descent (which is the best) I am also a registered commoner on commonage land that British royalty often vacation. I don’t understand why you don’t get that my kid is just as British as she is American. She was entitled to citizenship at birth for both the UK and US. My kid IS (already has passport) British otherwise than by descent.

I agree with your analysis about Mexican soccer. However, you refuse to acknowledge change has taken place. Mexico and the UK been very sexist and didn’t support women playing soccer in the past. Now, that these girls are in professional environments things are changing. Most on the forum agree that men’s football in Europe and Mexico is superior to the MLS. Even the commissioner of the MLS thinks Liga MX is better.

So if Mexican girls are now training in an environment that the MLS commissioner openly admits is better than the highest level of soccer in the US-why can’t you forsee substantial improvement on the Mexican side and the need to adjust or get left behind?
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You still have not answered the question about England and France. Have you put it to the FIFA test? I am not saying it isn't true and even admitted I may have misread the rules of FIFA when doing my research years ago.

When Garber speaks of LigaMX he speaks of the men's side. Garber is the MLS commissioner and that is his focus. How do you not see that. Please show me an article where he says Mex Womens league is superior. By the way he will also say the US Men's league is catching up to the LigaMX. Mexican training for women is not superior to US. Just four years ago they did not allow American women with Mexican decent into their league. And with the number of US born women in their Nat Team pool obviously shows they understand out players are better. Also, do you refute that UCLA would beat MEX WNT?

You have your opinion and I have mine. I am good with that. I think long term will show US WNT will always be a top always put women on National Teams throughout the world. Which makes me wonder why do all these countries send their players to US Colleges to play soccer?

You seem to take this as I have said before as contentious and I am just showing facts to support my viewpoint.
 
outside! said:
What exactly does any of this have to do with the threat to D1 college soccer?
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Is the Pathway to the pros through college? When should a "goat" decide to declare oneself for the draft? Interesting topics. Should the top 2% skip college all together and be put in a special academy for only the top 10%? Should we have another top league for only the top 10%? Should we have a pathway to the pros like Spain, France, Mexico and all the other smart countries that will soon pass us all up if the pathway to the top is through college only and you better have a 4.0 and higher and never make a mistake as teenager or choose HS Soccer over G D Assholes league. College should be an option, just like playing HS Soccer should be and if one thinks they can climb the mountain, let's find a way to make that happen instead of making fun of a few girls with a dream.
 
outside! said:
What exactly does any of this have to do with the threat to D1 college soccer?
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I made the assertion earlier that college soccer should go away...this is an evolution of the argument and very relevant. Would you like to opine as to why club sports are inadequate for a demographic that doesn’t want to go pro and wants to focus on academics?
 
outside! said:
What exactly does any of this have to do with the threat to D1 college soccer?
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absolutely nothing just another rabbit hole. There is only so much we can talk about in regards to D1 . We all hope schools open up in the fall and our beloved sport is supported by NCAA and the Universities within.
 
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