D1 college soccer under threat

I’m keeping the most popular sports that have television and fan support that positively impact the university and alumni. It’s not just dollars and cents. If that’s the case I’d cut everything.
But it’s about representing the university and issues bigger than just the bottom line. If it’s just money everything goes.
 
MacDre said:
Wow. De facto segregation. White flight. Environmental racism. War on drugs.

I have no problem getting the scholars from my hood into Middle College HS and into Stanford and the Ivies. I just see a lot of disturbing issues in soccer. I guess it is what it is.
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I just don’t believe in socialism, but am very big on personal accountability, choice, and you receive what you earn. We have a very colorful family - Black, White, Latin, and Native American across brother/sister in-laws, wife’s/husbands that have resulted in a very colorful and unique family. We joke in our family that we fly many flags.

I don’t owe you any kind of explanation, but do take offense to being characterized as racist or segregationist. I’m many things, but not those.
 
The Outlaw said:
Meaning what? Be more specific.
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It’s all about our complicated history. It is what it is. My life is great. I’m trying to find solutions to help kids. I’m not an expert.
But I think there’s problems with access in soccer and I don’t like the system.
 
The Outlaw said:
What systematic racism exists today that prevents black people from the same opportunities? Can you give me a few examples? Because I see a whole bunch of African American people becoming really successful, with little or no means, and I'm not just talking about drug dealing rappers that become "producers".
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Seriously? My sons best friend is in a wheelchair and his parents cannot get full time jobs that provide benefits. They are ready and willing to do whatever it takes. So they piece together part time jobs to make ends meet but still can’t afford the healthcare or therapy the son needs. Sad but not exclusive to their skin color right? Fine.
Well both parents were children of uneducated parents who could not earn enough money to move to an area with great schools. The parents worked hard but didn’t have enough education to move to better jobs and didn’t have time to go get an education. Sad but not exclusive to skin color rights fine. Well their parents couldn’t attend their local high school because it was whites only. So they attended a blacks only school that went up to grade 10. They weren’t allowed to move out of their neighborhood and their dads couldn’t go get a job that paid more than minimum wage. LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO WORK OR GET A HOME LOAN.

So those people (my sons friends grandparents) fled the south in order to try and move up in the world and access opportunities to Better themselves. They had no money and moved to nor cal but could afford a tiny place. Job market was better but still didn’t allow for them to pursue an education or better schooling for their kids. Could some people climb out of that? Sure.

but we are one generation from people legally being prevented from pursuing jobs, education, home loans, equality. The ramifications of that injustice are still being felt today.

but I’ll be sure to tell my friends that you think they should work harder and to stop doing drugs so they can get a full time job.
 
Before we cut all non revenue sports perhaps colleges can make cuts in other areas:

1) football and basketball coaches salaries. some of these coaches earn enough to fund 2-3 programs per year!
2) reduce the number of games played by non revenue generating sports
3) reduce the travel. Play more local teams.
4) reduce the number of scholarships
 
MSK357 said:
There are lawsuits against ivy league schools for accepting lower SAT or GPA scores for certain minority groups as opposed to others. And I think its a well known fact that some students get in to schools based on their athletic ability and not by their academic merit.
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That's because the school wants to win. Help everyone through sports is my motto. My big stink has been how the little girls have to be perfect almost and the boys are one and done. Let any man 18 go to straight to the draft and I bet every goat skips college. Football, Hoops, you name it. Who is making these "black" hoopsters go to school for one year anyway? I can;t believe i'm reading what im reading today. Hello, some one home?
 
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full90 said:
Seriously? My sons best friend is in a wheelchair and his parents cannot get full time jobs that provide benefits. They are ready and willing to do whatever it takes. So they piece together part time jobs to make ends meet but still can’t afford the healthcare or therapy the son needs. Sad but not exclusive to their skin color right? Fine.
Well both parents were children of uneducated parents who could not earn enough money to move to an area with great schools. The parents worked hard but didn’t have enough education to move to better jobs and didn’t have time to go get an education. Sad but not exclusive to skin color rights fine. Well their parents couldn’t attend their local high school because it was whites only. So they attended a blacks only school that went up to grade 10. They weren’t allowed to move out of their neighborhood and their dads couldn’t go get a job that paid more than minimum wage. LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO WORK OR GET A HOME LOAN.

So those people (my sons friends grandparents) fled the south in order to try and move up in the world and access opportunities to Better themselves. They had no money and moved to nor cal but could afford a tiny place. Job market was better but still didn’t allow for them to pursue an education or better schooling for their kids. Could some people climb out of that? Sure.

but we are one generation from people legally being prevented from pursuing jobs, education, home loans, equality. The ramifications of that injustice are still being felt today.

but I’ll be sure to tell my friends that you think they should work harder and to stop doing drugs so they can get a full time job.
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Thank god that institutional racism no longer exists today. I cant believe Joe Biden contributed to that situation by stopping the busing of minority children to better schools (white schools). I cant believe he worked with segregationist democrats to do that, democrats that voted against the civil rights act. I cant believe his reasoning to do that was because he didn't want his white children growing up in a racial jungle. We need to stop racists like Joe Biden from trying to prevent these racist laws. Children should be able to attend the school of their choice, something republicans have been fighting for since brown vs board of education and continue to do so. I really don't know why democrats want to keep minority children, people of color, in failing school districts. just my 2 cents.

www.snopes.com

Did Biden Say He Didn't Want His Kids Growing Up in a 'Racial Jungle'?

The 2020 Democratic presidential candidate's history with desegregation busing has haunted him on the campaign trail.
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MSK357 said:
Thank god that institutional racism no longer exists today. I cant believe Joe Biden contributed to that situation by stopping the busing of minority children to better schools (white schools). I cant believe he worked with segregationist democrats to do that, democrats that voted against the civil rights act. I cant believe his reasoning to do that was because he didn't want his white children growing up in a racial jungle. We need to stop racists like Joe Biden from trying to prevent these racist laws. Children should be able to attend the school of their choice, something republicans have been fighting for since brown vs board of education and continue to do so. I really don't know why democrats want to keep minority children, people of color, in failing school districts. just my 2 cents.

www.snopes.com

Did Biden Say He Didn't Want His Kids Growing Up in a 'Racial Jungle'?

The 2020 Democratic presidential candidate's history with desegregation busing has haunted him on the campaign trail.
www.snopes.com www.snopes.com
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*We need to stop racist like Joe Biden from trying to pass these racist laws. (was typing too fast)
 
MSK357 said:
Thank god that institutional racism no longer exists today. I cant believe Joe Biden contributed to that situation by stopping the busing of minority children to better schools (white schools). I cant believe he worked with segregationist democrats to do that, democrats that voted against the civil rights act. I cant believe his reasoning to do that was because he didn't want his white children growing up in a racial jungle. We need to stop racists like Joe Biden from trying to prevent these racist laws. Children should be able to attend the school of their choice, something republicans have been fighting for since brown vs board of education and continue to do so. I really don't know why democrats want to keep minority children, people of color, in failing school districts. just my 2 cents.

www.snopes.com

Did Biden Say He Didn't Want His Kids Growing Up in a 'Racial Jungle'?

The 2020 Democratic presidential candidate's history with desegregation busing has haunted him on the campaign trail.
www.snopes.com www.snopes.com
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so just to be clear, you’re asserting a position held by joe Biden in 1977, 40 years ago, is enough evidence for you to label him a racist and not be fit for president? And that school choice is the solution to inequality in education today?
 
Woobie06 said:
I just don’t believe in socialism, but am very big on personal accountability, choice, and you receive what you earn. We have a very colorful family - Black, White, Latin, and Native American across brother/sister in-laws, wife’s/husbands that have resulted in a very colorful and unique family. We joke in our family that we fly many flags.

I don’t owe you any kind of explanation, but do take offense to being characterized as racist or segregationist. I’m many things, but not those.
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No one characterized you as anything. I was just pointing out valid issues. Feeling guilty?
 
eastbaysoccer said:
Before we cut all non revenue sports perhaps colleges can make cuts in other areas:

1) football and basketball coaches salaries. some of these coaches earn enough to fund 2-3 programs per year!
2) reduce the number of games played by non revenue generating sports
3) reduce the travel. Play more local teams.
4) reduce the number of scholarships
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I agree the system is unfair in many ways and is in need of overhaul.
 
full90 said:
so just to be clear, you’re asserting a position held by joe Biden in 1977, 40 years ago, is enough evidence for you to label him a racist and not be fit for president? And that school choice is the solution to inequality in education today?
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Yes, Joe Biden was obviously racist in 1977. He obviously worked with Jesse helm, a democrat senator who voted against the civil rights act. (mind you this shows that there were no mass switching of parties, democrats that voted against the civil rights act stayed democrat) Do you want a known racist, who helped create racist policies to be president? I believe the best way out of poverty is education. Democrats are against school choice, I believe every child has a right to quality education. Do you believe all school districts provide the same quality? quality of teachers, class size, etc? Agree to disagree.
 
The Outlaw said:
That's cop out statement. How about we get away from the victimhood and look at facts and statistics. You just told me you had every reason to fail and didn't. Why? Because you valued education and hard work? You respected rules and authority figures? You didn't make stupid choices or walk around blaming everyone else for your hurdles? How refreshing.
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I wish your statements were true but they are not. I attended university on accident.
 
full90 said:
Seriously? My sons best friend is in a wheelchair and his parents cannot get full time jobs that provide benefits. They are ready and willing to do whatever it takes. So they piece together part time jobs to make ends meet but still can’t afford the healthcare or therapy the son needs. Sad but not exclusive to their skin color right? Fine.
Well both parents were children of uneducated parents who could not earn enough money to move to an area with great schools. The parents worked hard but didn’t have enough education to move to better jobs and didn’t have time to go get an education. Sad but not exclusive to skin color rights fine. Well their parents couldn’t attend their local high school because it was whites only. So they attended a blacks only school that went up to grade 10. They weren’t allowed to move out of their neighborhood and their dads couldn’t go get a job that paid more than minimum wage. LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO WORK OR GET A HOME LOAN.

So those people (my sons friends grandparents) fled the south in order to try and move up in the world and access opportunities to Better themselves. They had no money and moved to nor cal but could afford a tiny place. Job market was better but still didn’t allow for them to pursue an education or better schooling for their kids. Could some people climb out of that? Sure.

but we are one generation from people legally being prevented from pursuing jobs, education, home loans, equality. The ramifications of that injustice are still being felt today.

but I’ll be sure to tell my friends that you think they should work harder and to stop doing drugs so they can get a full time job.
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TY.
 
MSK357 said:
Yes, Joe Biden was obviously racist in 1977. He obviously worked with Jesse helm, a democrat senator who voted against the civil rights act. (mind you this shows that there were no mass switching of parties, democrats that voted against the civil rights act stayed democrat) Do you want a known racist, who helped create racist policies to be president? I believe the best way out of poverty is education. Democrats are against school choice, I believe every child has a right to quality education. Do you believe all school districts provide the same quality? quality of teachers, class size, etc? Agree to disagree.
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Correction
MSK357 said:
Yes, Joe Biden was obviously racist in 1977. He obviously worked with Jesse helm, a democrat senator who voted against the civil rights act. (mind you this shows that there were no mass switching of parties, democrats that voted against the civil rights act stayed democrat) Do you want a known racist, who helped create racist policies to be president? I believe the best way out of poverty is education. Democrats are against school choice, I believe every child has a right to quality education. Do you believe all school districts provide the same quality? quality of teachers, class size, etc? Agree to disagree.
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Correction James Eastland and Herman Talmadge, not Jesse Helm.
 
MacDre said:
I wish your statements were true but they are not. I attended university on accident.
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I was born by accident and all before 1972. Thank God I was protected by a loving adopted mother who told me I was her special blessing and that God wanted me to live for some crazy reason and she was picked to help me navigate this place. Lester makes it sound like Macdre chose his entry, his parents and the two strikes he woke up with before he came out of the womb. This is called, "look at both sides and make peace with the right and left or I will got to Montana and sit this one out. My gosh, share folks!!! Way too deep for the Either OR crowd on here. Conservative or Socialist? Can we meet in the middle guys? Stop being so Black & White, Rich or Poor and so on.
 
full90 said:
Seriously? My sons best friend is in a wheelchair and his parents cannot get full time jobs that provide benefits. They are ready and willing to do whatever it takes. So they piece together part time jobs to make ends meet but still can’t afford the healthcare or therapy the son needs. Sad but not exclusive to their skin color right? Fine.
Well both parents were children of uneducated parents who could not earn enough money to move to an area with great schools. The parents worked hard but didn’t have enough education to move to better jobs and didn’t have time to go get an education. Sad but not exclusive to skin color rights fine. Well their parents couldn’t attend their local high school because it was whites only. So they attended a blacks only school that went up to grade 10. They weren’t allowed to move out of their neighborhood and their dads couldn’t go get a job that paid more than minimum wage. LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO WORK OR GET A HOME LOAN.

So those people (my sons friends grandparents) fled the south in order to try and move up in the world and access opportunities to Better themselves. They had no money and moved to nor cal but could afford a tiny place. Job market was better but still didn’t allow for them to pursue an education or better schooling for their kids. Could some people climb out of that? Sure.

but we are one generation from people legally being prevented from pursuing jobs, education, home loans, equality. The ramifications of that injustice are still being felt today.

but I’ll be sure to tell my friends that you think they should work harder and to stop doing drugs so they can get a full time job.
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Why can they not get full time jobs with benefits? Or one of them? And yeah... not doing drugs would be a good idea. There are a ton of places where apartments exist next to better schools. All over NorCal. You have to live where you can afford to live. Telling me there was a time where black kids couldn't attend white schools has nothing to do with today. Dre here is a prime example. No father. Really? And why not? Is that a systemic failure or a character failure? Second, mom is a drug addict. Well, you don't become a drug addict unless you do drugs (sans being born into it and apparently Dre overcame it). Make better choices, right? Home loans are offered to people that offer a low risk opportunity. Simple. Doesn't matter who you are, does it? Is it still 1970? "Still being felt today" is a mindset. I don't agree with Kanye West on much... but I do there.
 
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