D1 college soccer under threat

vegasguy said:
By FIFA definition your math is wrong. If your wife is Canadian born there or her parents are, then yes she has Canada ties. Unless either of her parents are from France being born there, France is out. Born in Berkley- USA is in. Define Bahamian decent but appears they are out and the bigger picture if she is that good "why". Ties as you say are based on relative blood back to grandparents. My son's grandparents were both born in America. There parents were born in other countries so FIFA does not care. I am of decent of two countries based on both sets of Great Grandparents but FIFA would not allow me to switch there. Now Mexico, FIFA allows education before the age of 18 (minimum 5yrs). So Canada, Mexico and USA (with possible France by grand parents). Birth by FIFA definition ends at Grand-Parents not settlers of a location.

Alana Cook's (American Born) dad is British thus England not Scotland or any other UK. Raheem Sterling is Jamaican Born educated in other countries including England qualifies for Home Nations. Wendie Renard was born in Martinique a protected territory of France and thus of France decent. Similar to how a Puerto Rican born player would be eligible to play for US. French Canada is not a protected territory of France.

I may be wrong in this interpretation of the FIFA rules so please correct me if so. Your daughter qualifies for a few countries but I would implore you to possibly do more research.
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The Bahamas was part of the UK until their independence in 1973. Since my family was in the USA, we accepted British citizenship and permanent residency in the Bahamas. My daughter IS a British citizen otherwise than by descent-look this up. Which qualifies her to play for Scotland and England-In essence she can choose because her British citizenship is from the Bahamas. She has Scottish and English grandparents so she can play for either since her British citizenship is through the Bahamas.
Currently, a British passport is for England, Scotland, Ireland, and N. Ireland not just England.

I’m not sure about my wife’s family. I just know they are French with lot’s of family in Nova Scotia and France.
 
MacDre said:
The Bahamas was part of the UK until their independence in 1973. Since my family was in the USA, we accepted British citizenship and permanent residency in the Bahamas. My daughter IS a British citizen otherwise than by descent-look this up. Which qualifies her to play for Scotland and England-In essence she can choose because her British citizenship is from the Bahamas. She has Scottish and English grandparents so she can play for either since her British citizenship is through the Bahamas.
Currently, a British passport is for England, Scotland, Ireland, and N. Ireland not just England.

I’m not sure about my wife’s family. I just know they are French with lot’s of family in Nova Scotia and France.
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If you say so. I am just saying FIFA has differing rules than just naturalized and applied for citizenship. You are the expert though. If you say she has 7 countries to choose from and you assume because you have French relatives who am I to argue.
 
MacDre said:
Yes my kid started receiving attention early. I expect my kid to be scouted because she plays regularly approximately 30 minutes away from the Olympic training center in Chula Vista; they went to Europe for Sergino Dest! I expect her to be scouted because she made a professional roster at 12. I expect her to be scouted because she’s a talented US citizen-her father, grandfather, and uncle are Marine Corps vets. I expect her to be scouted because I’m being told she’s really good. I expect her to be scouted so I don’t let my kid play for another country that IS scouting her. I expect her to be scouted because at 12 she had exceeded the accomplishments of a 13 year old that was playing up on a YNT.
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So you think she should be scouted because her relatives are Marines? Because she's near Chula Vista? You're told she's really good?

Um, I'm not sure how many 12-year olds are scouted in the U.S. but I can think of maybe 1 total. I don't want to burst your bubble, and only time will tell where she ends up, but you really can't tell how good a 6th grader is going to be when they're a junior in high school.
 
vegasguy said:
If you say so. I am just saying FIFA has differing rules than just naturalized and applied for citizenship. You are the expert though. If you say she has 7 countries to choose from and you assume because you have French relatives who am I to argue.
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I’m sure of 5 and maybe 2 more under my wife. But, my kid has a British passport and IS a British citizen otherwise than by descent.

5 are clear my wife’s are uncertain.

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vegasguy said:
If you say so. I am just saying FIFA has differing rules than just naturalized and applied for citizenship. You are the expert though. If you say she has 7 countries to choose from and you assume because you have French relatives who am I to argue.
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Most in this country only have one country to tryout for. Lucky #7 for Macdre and his dd. Let's all be encouraging and cheer him and her on. We also have Luis and I guess me too that have all claimed our dd would like to play pro and go for a YNT, when their was one. Why is that so egotistical? My dd has two to choose from but it's America or bust for her. That's who she is. Too each his own and I bet all of you here that if Macdre dd wants to, she will be on some country'a national team. You can take that to the bank, how's that!!!
 
MacDre said:
Born in Berkeley-USA;
Lived in Mexico 8 yrs-Mexico;
Bahamian/British decent—Bahamas;
British otherwise than by descent and qualifies for Scotland and England-decendant of the first puritan settlers. Raheem Sterling of England, Alana Cook USA/England (possibly), and Wendy Reinard of France are examples of people from the West Indies with ties to Europe.

My wife is French Canadian. So I think she qualifies for France and Canada too.
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I'm not sure you know how this works.
 
MacDre said:
The Bahamas was part of the UK until their independence in 1973. Since my family was in the USA, we accepted British citizenship and permanent residency in the Bahamas. My daughter IS a British citizen otherwise than by descent-look this up. Which qualifies her to play for Scotland and England-In essence she can choose because her British citizenship is from the Bahamas. She has Scottish and English grandparents so she can play for either since her British citizenship is through the Bahamas.
Currently, a British passport is for England, Scotland, Ireland, and N. Ireland not just England.

I’m not sure about my wife’s family. I just know they are French with lot’s of family in Nova Scotia and France.
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Unless she has family descent within two (or in some cases three) generations, she won't meet the inheritance requirement. Of courses, she could also qualify by moving to the country of interest and becoming a citizen there.
 
MacDre said:
Yes my kid started receiving attention early. I expect my kid to be scouted because she plays regularly approximately 30 minutes away from the Olympic training center in Chula Vista; they went to Europe for Sergino Dest! I expect her to be scouted because she made a professional roster at 12. I expect her to be scouted because she’s a talented US citizen-her father, grandfather, and uncle are Marine Corps vets. I expect her to be scouted because I’m being told she’s really good. I expect her to be scouted so I don’t let my kid play for another country that IS scouting her. I expect her to be scouted because at 12 she had exceeded the accomplishments of a 13 year old that was playing up on a YNT.
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This is such a different mindset than mine. I tell my kids not to expect a single thing despite their accomplishments. Work to make the team every year, work in practice every minute to earn your starting spot every single week, work in front of every scout every time. Put your head down and work and make sure you are the best player as far as you can see if you want even a chance at that YNT invite. After you gain something big, enjoy the moment and then pretend you are starting all over. Always have confidence in yourself, but the second you are complacent or start to have expectations karma will catch you.
 
The Outlaw said:
So you think she should be scouted because her relatives are Marines? Because she's near Chula Vista? You're told she's really good?

Um, I'm not sure how many 12-year olds are scouted in the U.S. but I can think of maybe 1 total. I don't want to burst your bubble, and only time will tell where she ends up, but you really can't tell how good a 6th grader is going to be when they're a junior in high school.
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I don’t claim to be an expert. I think the DOC of Club Tijuana is the one that made the decision regarding my daughter. Do you think I can make a pro club roster my daughter at 12? You should call the DOC and share your thoughts.
I can tell you that her first couple of months in training went very well and she’s still having fun. As long as she continues to have fun and wants to play, I’ll support it. Playing in TJ is fun. When TJ makes it to the finals, she will play in front of 50,000 fans.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
This is such a different mindset than mine. I tell my kids not to expect a single thing despite their accomplishments. Work to make the team every year, work in practice every minute to earn your starting spot every single week, work in front of every scout every time. Put your head down and work and make sure you are the best player as far as you can see if you want even a chance at that YNT invite. After you gain something big, enjoy the moment and then pretend you are starting all over. Always have confidence in yourself, but the second you are complacent or start to have expectations karma will catch you.
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I tell mine to stay ready so you don’t have to get ready. You got me all the way fucked up patna!
 
Soccerfan2 said:
This is such a different mindset than mine. I tell my kids not to expect a single thing despite their accomplishments. Work to make the team every year, work in practice every minute to earn your starting spot every single week, work in front of every scout every time. Put your head down and work and make sure you are the best player as far as you can see if you want even a chance at that YNT invite. After you gain something big, enjoy the moment and then pretend you are starting all over. Always have confidence in yourself, but the second you are complacent or start to have expectations karma will catch you.
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Or the grown ups cheat, that can happen too soccer fan 2
 
MacDre said:
I don’t claim to be an expert. I think the DOC of Club Tijuana is the one that made the decision regarding my daughter. Do you think I can make a pro club roster my daughter at 12? You should call the DOC and share your thoughts.
I can tell you that her first couple of months in training went very well and she’s still having fun. As long as she continues to have fun and wants to play, I’ll support it. Playing in TJ is fun. When TJ makes it to the finals, she will play in front of 50,000 fans.
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I hope your daughter winds up on television... I think we all do... we just hope you remember there's an enormous difference between being a great 12-year old and being a great 16-18 year old and I will probably never grasp why you felt, in your original post, she wasn't being "scouted" enough in NorCal. Nobody gets scouted at that age, Dre.
 
MacDre said:
I don’t claim to be an expert. I think the DOC of Club Tijuana is the one that made the decision regarding my daughter. Do you think I can make a pro club roster my daughter at 12? You should call the DOC and share your thoughts.
I can tell you that her first couple of months in training went very well and she’s still having fun. As long as she continues to have fun and wants to play, I’ll support it. Playing in TJ is fun. When TJ makes it to the finals, she will play in front of 50,000 fans.
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I might be wrong but that is like saying a 12 year old kid playing for the LA Galaxy academy is a pro. I think your not a pro until you actually get salary for playing soccer.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
This is such a different mindset than mine. I tell my kids not to expect a single thing despite their accomplishments. Work to make the team every year, work in practice every minute to earn your starting spot every single week, work in front of every scout every time. Put your head down and work and make sure you are the best player as far as you can see if you want even a chance at that YNT invite. After you gain something big, enjoy the moment and then pretend you are starting all over. Always have confidence in yourself, but the second you are complacent or start to have expectations karma will catch you.
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I can;t wait for Karma to catch up bro. Work, work, work and work some more and then quit because it's all work. You better have fun too at what you love to do. Work doesn;t sound like fun to me. To each his own :)
 
Ellejustus said:
First of all, I think she's in the top 10% for her age. I also think she could be in the top 2% for her age group if she played against all the top players in her age group. Now, if you think, I think, she's top 1% or 2% in this country of all the female soccer players then your smoking crack bro. I never said that. She just hasn;t been eliminated yet imo. She still has a little something, something in the tank if you know what I mean.
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I have never seen stats about 12 year olds. But if you look at HS soccer (assuming that most youth soccer when they were 12) the stats say 9.3% of them play College at any level. 2.2% of them play D1. Probably less than 1% play any meaningful minutes at D1. Less than maybe 0.01% play one minute as a pro. Even less make any substantial money beyond their College Scholarship. Its good to dream and work hard but it is a long road.
 
The Outlaw said:
I hope your daughter winds up on television... I think we all do... we just hope you remember there's an enormous difference between being a great 12-year old and being a great 16-18 year old and I will probably never grasp why you felt, in your original post, she wasn't being "scouted" enough in NorCal. Nobody gets scouted at that age, Dre.
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Maybe you misunderstood me because my kid has never played in NorCal to be scouted there. But I think any US 12 year old girl on a pro roster should be scouted. Plus she is being scouted by other countries and time is of the essence.
I don’t care if my kid fizzles out, I’m riding the wave as long as she continues to have fun. My kid is also doing extremely well in school. She has nothing to lose and much to gain.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
I have never seen stats about 12 year olds. But if you look at HS soccer (assuming that most youth soccer when they were 12) the stats say 9.3% of them play College at any level. 2.2% of them play D1. Probably less than 1% play any meaningful minutes at D1. Less than maybe 0.01% play one minute as a pro. Even less make any substantial money beyond their College Scholarship. Its good to dream and work hard but it is a long road.
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Dreamers dream Simi. The stats are my eyes bro. I know talent when I see it.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
I might be wrong but that is like saying a 12 year old kid playing for the LA Galaxy academy is a pro. I think your not a pro until you actually get salary for playing soccer.
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I kinda agree but a precedent was set by a 13 year old player a year prior. So what word would you use?
 
MacDre said:
I kinda agree but a precedent was set by a 13 year old player a year prior. So what word would you use?
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and my dd was playing against that pro every weekday at practice. I never said she was going to be pro, only that she wanted to give it a try. My dd has not had to work that hard yet everyone. I'm serious. Just wait.....lol!!!! These parents are funny. So up tight over pro.......
 
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