Kicknit22
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What is this gibberish?
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MacDre
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Likewise, offensive players should flop for the free kick and to keep defenders honest.
Kicknit22
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Lame. Come on Dre!
vegasguy
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Flop is a phantom touch where the player (in Ligue 1 Neymar) falls without even being touched or touched slightly but since they have lost control to a 50:50 proposition it is easier for them to go down than stay up and play on. Think Harden or even better Lebron missing a shot with the defender in his face and eventhough the defender did not touch LeBron he turns to the ref with his pained look grabbing his wrist . Then he throws his arms up in the air like he is been so wrong that the refs could be against him. Dives are cardable but rarely given.
Professional foul is usually near mid line and during a turnover with a quick transition. A defender will grab and arm or jersey or shoulder player down. In most cases the cover defender is still behind the pressure defender but may not be in position to cover. The defender fouls still trying to at least appear to play the ball . Yes he takes a yellow. It is in the laws. Not a red. Rarely will you see a defender do this if they are in a red card position or if they are last defender.
There is a difference difference between stopping a run and sacrificing your aggression and trying to persuade the ref which against could result in a card against a defender.
You seem to forget that the game is already built to give the advantage to the offensive player.
Professional foul is usually near mid line and during a turnover with a quick transition. A defender will grab and arm or jersey or shoulder player down. In most cases the cover defender is still behind the pressure defender but may not be in position to cover. The defender fouls still trying to at least appear to play the ball . Yes he takes a yellow. It is in the laws. Not a red. Rarely will you see a defender do this if they are in a red card position or if they are last defender.
There is a difference difference between stopping a run and sacrificing your aggression and trying to persuade the ref which against could result in a card against a defender.
You seem to forget that the game is already built to give the advantage to the offensive player.
I don't mind the gamesmanship in drawing the foul in any sport, like bball when players lean in on shots, or baseball leaning in the strike zone, or even in pro football when players cry for PI, a hold, or a qb hit to the head. Somebody mentioned this before. Part of the game.
It's the excessive rolling around, grabbing the leg, and antics after the foul is called that are part of it in soccer on the men's side that is boorish. The women act tougher than the men.
It's the excessive rolling around, grabbing the leg, and antics after the foul is called that are part of it in soccer on the men's side that is boorish. The women act tougher than the men.
A ref told me girls are way tougher and meaner than men in soccer. He also said that's why they have so many dam injuries. Lot;s of them too. I wasnt just the greatest club hopper of of all time pals, but I was also known to be the greatest flopper of all time in the south coast league in basketball. I was #1 with taking the charge
vegasguy
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Agree . I get it. I do not like the whining behind it or having a trainer come out. I know coaches who have run sessions on diving . Saw this same coach yell and his keeper to fake injury so he could sub his second keeper out to put in the better keeper and then after the goal sub the other keeper back in because he was it injured.
This is diving that is disgusting. In my opinion this is to a point Neymars mentality.
This is diving that is disgusting. In my opinion this is to a point Neymars mentality.
That gibberish is the definition of “denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity”, from the laws of the game for soccer. It is against the rules, and results in a red card, or a yellow card and a PK, depending on location.
My dd got yelled at one time because she got up too fast from getting whacked in the box. She was told to roll, grab ankle and find tears for the PK so your team can score. It's called, "selling it."
Whats awful?
Kicknit22
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What your daughter was being coached to do! That’s what’s awful. Complete BS
Dang. Maybe I wasn't clear. She wasn;t taught to lie bro. She was the shortest and when she was in the box, girls would whack her hard and she would fall and then she would bounce right back up to fight for the ball in the box because she wanted to score so her team could win. She was taught at 11 and older to lay in the box, find the area that got whacked and sell it because the ref is usually not close enough to see where the foul took place. These big girls can;t just keep doing that and get away with hacking my kid or Neymar for that matter. Plus, if you keep getting up the ref will think it wasnt that bad and he won;t blow that dam whistle. We are trying to win and winning is selling it where I come from
Agree 100%...I love it when the stetcher/physio comes out, puts on the magic spray and the player pops up ready to go. I wish there was a way manage the situation where if the stretcher/physio comes out player is removed for a period of time. Figure out a way to manage the behavior out of the game. Problem is it penalizes the team that was fouled.
vegasguy
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My point being "sell it" a 12yr old is impressionable. The coach telling her to sell it has not place in the youth game. Just my opinion. I would teach my player to position with strength smaller or not. You also mentioned the coach told her to develop tears. Crying helps get a whistle. Will that help her in the real world? I am also curious if you have called for a yellow or red card on a youth player from the parent sideline.
Play the game to the whistle. If you get knocked down get back up. If you are truly injured stay down. If you foul someone and the whistle blows, get your butt back and quit whining
Play the game to the whistle. If you get knocked down get back up. If you are truly injured stay down. If you foul someone and the whistle blows, get your butt back and quit whining
vegasguy
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I find more respect for players who get gashed, get wrapped and are trying to get back in with blood dripping down their face. Hell Abby Wambaugh got staples on the sideline and got back in.
vegasguy
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To be clear, I am not calling your daughter awful. I am saying being coached to develop tears and embellish a touch, hack or potential dive is awful. You don't coach players to do that at least in my philosophy.
C'mon man, that was a joke. My dd cried all the time when big girls whacked her and she whacked them back by winning and with some tears along the way. You folks take me way too serious. Lighten up!!! No coach told her to make up tears either, only I did so we could win and brag that our team was #1.