College Ranking Lists - Forbes, US News and thoughts

soccerobserver said:
Zoro, you are the first person I have ever heard of that uses these rankings to ... or select employees. ...
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If you are reading the whole thread then I'm not the only person: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/college-ranking-lists-forbes-us-news-and-thoughts.257/#post-4719
While discussion about employee hiring and college selection are part of this thread, the purpose was in light of ranking criteria - used by the two. I am more interested in why they are different and why one is so popular. No debate from me USNews means more. What was interesting is the criteria of the other lined up more with what we, and what I hear parents are looking for.

Our selection was more in-line with fit than ranking.
Both kids ended up at lower ranked schools that fit (USNews) than what they could have with sports.
And both got into higher ranked schools than they likely would have without sports.

All were going to cost us roughly near as much (taking soccer out of it), so we looked within that top 100 in both soccer and academics because that was plenty of choices. DD wanted out of state, son didn't care.

I expect players at the most competitive clubs are looking in the top 100 ranks. Maybe because they can.
 
Z your points are well taken. Somewhere along the thread it was asked which list people would recommend to help a HS student make a selection. I submit that neither list should be used for that purpose; that some of the college guides (Fiske etc) would be more helpful as a resource for achieving a good fit between the student/athlete and the college.
 
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I guess my overall simple statement is get something with soccer that you would not have otherwise obtained.

While there is nothing wrong with being one of the smarter kids at the school playing varsity and paying the money everyone else is to do it, a lot would be left on the table in that case.

Besides money, rankings, and particularly in the big chunks like top 20, top 50, top 100 is one measure of getting something. Most lists will give you an idea. Knowing how they rank is important to me. The how is more important than the rank to me. If I find a list that matches my kids/our values *I think* I will have a list that is also a better fit for us/my kid.

The other list we worked off of was/is common for soccer parents to use: http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/nscaa-coaches and http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa-womens-soccer-rpi

We spent time putting together a personal power rankings list that was a combination of academic, soccer and major and what DD thought of the campus life. That exercise is both fun and highly recommended.
 
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Zoro said:
I guess my overall simple statement is get something with soccer that you would not have otherwise obtained.

While there is nothing wrong with being one of the smarter kids at the school playing varsity and paying the money everyone else is to do it, a lot would be left on the table in that case.

Besides money, rankings, and particularly in the big chunks like top 20, top 50, top 100 is one measure of getting something. Most lists will give you an idea. Knowing how they rank is important to me. The how is more important than the rank to me. If I find a list that matches my kids/our values *I think* I will have a list that is also a better fit for us/my kid.

The other list we worked off of was/is common for soccer parents to use: http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/nscaa-coaches and http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa-womens-soccer-rpi

We spent time putting together a personal power rankings list that was a combination of academic, soccer and major and what DD thought of the campus life. That exercise is both fun and highly recommended.
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New rankings are out, interesting (actually, sorta cool) to see 50% out of the top public universities in the nation are here in CA.

Link: http://usat.ly/2ckRsyP

Ok Zoro....time for your monologue & narrative:D
 
Zerodenero said:
New rankings are out, interesting (actually, sorta cool) to see 50% out of the top public universities in the nation are here in CA.

Link: http://usat.ly/2ckRsyP

Ok Zoro....time for your monologue & narrative:D
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I'm not surprised that CAL, UCLA, UCI, UC Davis, UCSD and UCSB are all in the top 50 of national universities. Part of the US Newsweek methodology includes selectivity which accounts for 12.5% of the weighted measure. All of the UC schools above are difficult to gain admissions, because California is such a populous state. Then add the out of state students wanting to attend UC Schools and gaining admissions is more difficult. Another reason why 3 of the top Cal State Schools; SLO, SDSU and LB State have acceptance rates in the 30%.
 
NoGoal said:
I'm not surprised that CAL, UCLA, UCI, UC Davis, UCSD and UCSB are all in the top 50 of national universities. Part of the US Newsweek methodology includes selectivity which accounts for 12.5% of the weighted measure. All of the UC schools above are difficult to gain admissions, because California is such a populous state. Then add the out of state students wanting to attend UC Schools and gaining admissions is more difficult. Another reason why 3 of the top Cal State Schools; SLO, SDSU and LB State have acceptance rates in the 30%.
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You forgot Pepp They made top 50
 
NoGoal said:
Another reason why 3 of the top Cal State Schools; SLO, SDSU and LB State have acceptance rates in the 30%.
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Yes. Growing sentiment of Engineering/architecture graduates of SLO Is that they are amongst the top tier of CA avail job candidates (within those deciplines).
 
Zerodenero said:
Yes. Growing sentiment of Engineering/architecture graduates of SLO Is that they are amongst the top tier of CA avail job candidates (within those deciplines).
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I am pleased to see today that my school SDSU is ranked #20.

In football power rankings.
 
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