Totally agree with the article even though it doesn’t cite soccer as a true “rich kid” sport. Even so, nobody can deny we have a nice little racket going on here. And yes I am guilty as charged. I am definitely playing the “game” to see if it can help my dd’s get in to their college of choice. I’m not snitching anytime soon, but we can’t deny that the current system only helps girls who play club, which in turn is not available to a lot of kids.
College Entrance Scam includes former Yale Women's Soccer Coach
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Totally agree with the article even though it doesn’t cite soccer as a true “rich kid” sport. Even so, nobody can deny we have a nice little racket going on here. And yes I am guilty as charged. I am definitely playing the “game” to see if it can help my dd’s get in to their college of choice. I’m not snitching anytime soon, but we can’t deny that the current system only helps girls who play club, which in turn is not available to a lot of kids.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
Yeah, but do you really think it’s racial? Or just white people are willing to spend the time and money to pursue it? If the argument was there aren’t as many blacks, Hispanics or asians trying out for those sports, would those applicants get preference?
goldentoe
SILVER
The article’s from The Atlantic, so it’s basically trash. Race bait is their focus genre.
Who said anything about racial?? It’s about SES and if you have the money for it, you have access to it. I don’t quite understand your post (i.e. “getting preference.”).
What’s trash about it? Is what they are saying not true.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
The article keeps referencing “rich white applicants” accusing Harvard of intentionally giving preference by race when it comes to athletics - sounds pretty racial to me.
“Harvard does give preferential treatment to affluent white applicants”
goldentoe
SILVER
“While there is nothing morally wrong with enjoying a game of catch in a pool, participation in these activities has come to play a subtle, yet ludicrously powerful, role in the reproduction of elite status in the United States.”
Cultural bias at it’s finest. Enjoy....
Read the article, it says legacy and athletics primarily benefit white students. They provide the stats, so if those stats are valid then it’s just stating facts. You’re reading way too much into it.
I’ll give you that this paragraph may show some bias (“catch in the pool” “ludicrously powerful”), but I’m focusing on the stats.
Justus
GOLD
"Being honest with ones self is the beginning of change" 99.5% want one thing, college access. The 20,000 girls that play in Spain play for other reasons. This is big time and I mean big time biz in USA. I'm not sure how many kids get free rides in the DA/ECNL, but I don't think it's as much as I originally thought. Folks who truly can't afford the tuition, team fees, per diems, fundraising, air travel, car travel, gas, tolls, tires and food get priced out. Most low to upper middle class families in OC both parents usually have to work or have a single mom or dad trying to pay all the bills. I have paid all my dues and fees since my baby goat was 7 (Except for half a season back in 2016
and can truly see I paid a little too much and over extended our families budget to help my dd reach her dreams. Remember, Scholarship does not equal Full Ride 
pats boys and girls da is fully funded
@Justus don’t worry, anytime Supermodel thinks he sees the word “white” it sets a fighting bell off in his head, even when it is imaginary.
I was talking about scholarships for college not on youth clubs
younothat
PREMIER
Well well another twist to this now:
www.topdrawersoccer.com
"The college admissions scandal (or the Varsity Blues scandal) added a new chapter last week as former UCLA Men’s Soccer head coach Jorge Salcedo’s attorney begin to draw the framework of his argument in the trial and it could spell disaster for his old employer. Salcedo alleges in the motion that UCLA was aware of the admissions scandal in 2014 after a compliance review into the athletics department.
“The charges reflect the government’s fundamental misunderstanding of how UCLA has strategically used its student-athlete admissions process as a vehicle to raise funds to pay for its many expensive and underfunded athletic programs,” Salcedo’s attorneys wrote in the motion. “UCLA’s own internal documents reveal that, for many years, its Athletic Department has facilitated the admission of unqualified applicants—students who do not meet UCLA’s rigorous academic or athletics standards—through the student-athlete admissions process in exchange for huge “donations” by the students’ wealthy parents.”
Salcedo was one of the coaches indicted in March of 2019 as part of the large sweeping admissions scheme that involved numerous universities across the country. He was the only UCLA coach named in the indictment. But he was not the only soccer coach involved. Former USC head coach Ali Khosroshahin pled guilty to his involvement in the admissions scandal in June. His former assistant coach Laura Janke also pled guilty for her involvement.
Salcedo’s motion last week sought pre-trial subpoenas for UCLA and the UC Regents. As he alleges the school’s compliance office investigated the admissions practice of the athletics department five years ago and discovered it was a readily accepted standard for the benefit at higher-ups in the athletics department and university.
“Until this prosecution, UCLA has been able to keep its roster-spot-for-money admissions practice under wraps, hidden from the public. But the practice has been no secret at UCLA. Five years ago, UCLA’s Compliance Office was forced to review the Athletic Department’s admissions and fundraising tactics in response to a parent’s complaint concerning the revocation of her daughter’s admission.”
The motion, which can be read in full, continues to lay out the evidence regarding that internal investigation.
“Having uncovered a mountain of damning evidence, the Compliance Office concluded that UCLA’s use of athletic team roster slots to raise funds violated Policy 2202 of UCLA’s governing body, the University of California Board of Regents (“UC Regents”). Policy 2202, titled “Policy Barring Development Considerations from Influencing Admission Decisions,” prohibits admission decisions based on financial benefits to the University. The Compliance Office, however, was careful to protect top echelon members of the Athletic Department, while heaping all of the blame on the coaches’ shoulders.”
Depending on what the subpoena reveals, this could be a difficult spell for UCLA’s athletic department, which is already in the news for reporting a massive deficit in 2019. "
Former UCLA men's soccer coach fires back | College Soccer
Former UCLA head coach Jorge Salcedo is in the news again after his attorney filed a motion with the court last week that shines the light on his former employer.
www.topdrawersoccer.com
"The college admissions scandal (or the Varsity Blues scandal) added a new chapter last week as former UCLA Men’s Soccer head coach Jorge Salcedo’s attorney begin to draw the framework of his argument in the trial and it could spell disaster for his old employer. Salcedo alleges in the motion that UCLA was aware of the admissions scandal in 2014 after a compliance review into the athletics department.
“The charges reflect the government’s fundamental misunderstanding of how UCLA has strategically used its student-athlete admissions process as a vehicle to raise funds to pay for its many expensive and underfunded athletic programs,” Salcedo’s attorneys wrote in the motion. “UCLA’s own internal documents reveal that, for many years, its Athletic Department has facilitated the admission of unqualified applicants—students who do not meet UCLA’s rigorous academic or athletics standards—through the student-athlete admissions process in exchange for huge “donations” by the students’ wealthy parents.”
Salcedo was one of the coaches indicted in March of 2019 as part of the large sweeping admissions scheme that involved numerous universities across the country. He was the only UCLA coach named in the indictment. But he was not the only soccer coach involved. Former USC head coach Ali Khosroshahin pled guilty to his involvement in the admissions scandal in June. His former assistant coach Laura Janke also pled guilty for her involvement.
Salcedo’s motion last week sought pre-trial subpoenas for UCLA and the UC Regents. As he alleges the school’s compliance office investigated the admissions practice of the athletics department five years ago and discovered it was a readily accepted standard for the benefit at higher-ups in the athletics department and university.
“Until this prosecution, UCLA has been able to keep its roster-spot-for-money admissions practice under wraps, hidden from the public. But the practice has been no secret at UCLA. Five years ago, UCLA’s Compliance Office was forced to review the Athletic Department’s admissions and fundraising tactics in response to a parent’s complaint concerning the revocation of her daughter’s admission.”
The motion, which can be read in full, continues to lay out the evidence regarding that internal investigation.
“Having uncovered a mountain of damning evidence, the Compliance Office concluded that UCLA’s use of athletic team roster slots to raise funds violated Policy 2202 of UCLA’s governing body, the University of California Board of Regents (“UC Regents”). Policy 2202, titled “Policy Barring Development Considerations from Influencing Admission Decisions,” prohibits admission decisions based on financial benefits to the University. The Compliance Office, however, was careful to protect top echelon members of the Athletic Department, while heaping all of the blame on the coaches’ shoulders.”
Depending on what the subpoena reveals, this could be a difficult spell for UCLA’s athletic department, which is already in the news for reporting a massive deficit in 2019. "
Lambchop
GOLD
Also, you still need to perform in the classroom bottom line. Students need to take AP classes, Honor classes and score high on the ACT/SAT and be a good athlete. Sure there will always be a few who get in with a lower SAT/ACT score. The private schools look at everything. Just like in the "real" world sometimes it's who you know that get's you the job. Getting in is just the beginning at any school, if you don't perform, it won't do you any good.
My daughter was a calculus tutor for some student-athletes at her school. She expressed dismay that some of her tutees got into school on early admission while she had to process through the waitlist.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
That is because the athletes are bringing a skill/talent that other don't have and the University wants.
oh canada
GOLD
thanks for posting...after reading this excerpt below, i'm thinking that's also why we haven't heard anything more from the LA Times public records request issued last summer:Well well another twist to this now:
Former UCLA men's soccer coach fires back | College Soccer
Former UCLA head coach Jorge Salcedo is in the news again after his attorney filed a motion with the court last week that shines the light on his former employer.
"The college admissions scandal (or the Varsity Blues scandal) added a new chapter last week as former UCLA Men’s Soccer head coach Jorge Salcedo’s attorney begin to draw the framework of his argument in the trial and it could spell disaster for his old employer. Salcedo alleges in the motion that UCLA was aware of the admissions scandal in 2014 after a compliance review into the athletics department.
“The charges reflect the government’s fundamental misunderstanding of how UCLA has strategically used its student-athlete admissions process as a vehicle to raise funds to pay for its many expensive and underfunded athletic programs,” Salcedo’s attorneys wrote in the motion. “UCLA’s own internal documents reveal that, for many years, its Athletic Department has facilitated the admission of unqualified applicants—students who do not meet UCLA’s rigorous academic or athletics standards—through the student-athlete admissions process in exchange for huge “donations” by the students’ wealthy parents.”
Salcedo was one of the coaches indicted in March of 2019 as part of the large sweeping admissions scheme that involved numerous universities across the country. He was the only UCLA coach named in the indictment. But he was not the only soccer coach involved. Former USC head coach Ali Khosroshahin pled guilty to his involvement in the admissions scandal in June. His former assistant coach Laura Janke also pled guilty for her involvement.
Salcedo’s motion last week sought pre-trial subpoenas for UCLA and the UC Regents. As he alleges the school’s compliance office investigated the admissions practice of the athletics department five years ago and discovered it was a readily accepted standard for the benefit at higher-ups in the athletics department and university.
“Until this prosecution, UCLA has been able to keep its roster-spot-for-money admissions practice under wraps, hidden from the public. But the practice has been no secret at UCLA. Five years ago, UCLA’s Compliance Office was forced to review the Athletic Department’s admissions and fundraising tactics in response to a parent’s complaint concerning the revocation of her daughter’s admission.”
The motion, which can be read in full, continues to lay out the evidence regarding that internal investigation.
“Having uncovered a mountain of damning evidence, the Compliance Office concluded that UCLA’s use of athletic team roster slots to raise funds violated Policy 2202 of UCLA’s governing body, the University of California Board of Regents (“UC Regents”). Policy 2202, titled “Policy Barring Development Considerations from Influencing Admission Decisions,” prohibits admission decisions based on financial benefits to the University. The Compliance Office, however, was careful to protect top echelon members of the Athletic Department, while heaping all of the blame on the coaches’ shoulders.”
Depending on what the subpoena reveals, this could be a difficult spell for UCLA’s athletic department, which is already in the news for reporting a massive deficit in 2019. "
Mr. Salcedo served public records requests on both UCLA and UC Regents to no avail. Determined to prevent public disclosure of this blockbuster evidence, UCLA has stonewalled the defense, producing minimal documents and interposing a litany of objections. It has even tried to hide behind the government’s “ongoing criminal investigation” as an excuse for non-production.
And, never knew this was a thing..."GPA Boosters"...if Salcedo's lawyers get the docs they want, this could be a real sh*t show for UCLA:
UCLA has struggled with low APRs and risks being banned from post-season competition. UCLA’s May 2019 APR report, which includes data for academic years 2014 through 2018, reveals low multi-year APRs for several sports, including men’s basketball, football, and men’s soccer (Exs. 5, 6).4 Once again, UCLA has been able to resort to its student-athlete admissions practice to address this vital issue. The Athletic Department has admitted non-athletes whose academic performances helped raise their teams’ GPAs. Often known as GPA boosters, these students typically fill spots from the bottom of the roster and are from affluent families who donate to UCLA’s athletic programs. While these students generally do not meet UCLA’s academic admissions standards, their scholastic skills tend to be much higher than those of recruited athletes.
Zerodenero
GOLD
OCan- without digging in too deep into the supplemental intel re ucla ....how different is the above from ivys using the academic index to round out their annual incoming recruits?
Ivys are private (except for part of Cornell).